• Monday, June 25, 2018

what is solution for political crisis between administration and judiciary

Discussion in 'Pakistani Siasat' started by ziaulislam, Feb 24, 2018.

  1. 1. Make nawaz sharif the "sharif/king" thus above law , or make him chief excuetive

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  2. 2. fire the judiciary

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  3. 3. give party president immunity against all crimes (like president of pakistan)

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  4. 4. give all parliamentarian and lower house members immunity

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  5. 5. restrict power of judiciary so it cannot do self references/notices(PMLN 2018 manifesto)

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  6. 6. completely abolish NAB and any accountability organisation

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  7. 7. pray that punab doesnt vote for PMLN again

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  8. 8. other

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  1. Zibago

    Zibago ELITE MEMBER

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    Ordinary folks? Hmm depends on the province really btw opinions of ordinary folks in a country with 10% matriculation should never be taken seriously on matters like this

    Voting is their right but we all know what criteria most folks have when voting and how flip floppy most electables are there are no morals in Pakistani politics
     
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    Who will not allow it?
     
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    For me, the fundamental mistake our establishment is hell bent upon is to consistently telling people;

    Who you should support; Who you should not
    Who is right; Who is wrong
    Who is patriotic; Who is not.

    This is the grave mistake they are continuously making like no end and getting exactly opposite result continuously as well but didn't want to learn an inch.
     
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    Geo and dunya news other than that its all good the fallout from it will be easily contained due to the fact that their party strength (canibalism of other parties) is their biggest weakness their leaders arent people of high morals but for sale politicians who go along with the highest bidders i mean look at the most anti Judiciary pmln ministers most of them are from other parties and they said similar things about nawaz 10 years ago

    Its hilarious seeing anti army lectures from broodlings of Zia :D


    Ok i will play along the organization that spent the highest amount on narrative building always has been pmon despite spending billions the only thing they achieved was discrediting the outlets it spent money on
     
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    People disallowed JIT to be made..

    People disallowed kicking out of NS from parliament..

    People disallowed kicking out of NS from party leadership..

    People will soon disallow lifetime disqualification..

    People will then disallow sending NS and Baji their TRUE HOME SWEET HOME...

    :lol:
     
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    • Solution: Put the criminal in Jail and problem solved and shut down the newspaper who air his speech or news

    • Let Shezadi Maryam work in Jail farmland
     
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    Its the standar operating procedure of all corrupt regimes they target the courts and call for change in laws to have immunity be it Putin, Erdogan or Mugabee

    Man i couldnt stop laughing after watching this tweet
     
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    I'm not Anti Army; Refer to post 15 first part:-)
     
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    Just like Altaf..

    Noonies don't know how much Altaf was popular.. what his followers were capable of doing... and now what has become of his party.... lolz..
     
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    Siyasi bayaan doesnot erase real bayan :angel:
    Any who adiyala ma ubarak may this move stop sale of PIA to Air Blue and Pakistan Steel Mill to Sachin Jindal
     
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    so far it seems "if" such an establishment exist it wants justice..the best PMLN supporter can argue is why is the justice selective to PMLN but one cannot argue its not justice
     
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    The worst part is unlike Altaf Nawaz, s ministers are just for hire touts who WILL throw him under the bus when someone with more influence takes over :D

    Actually the so called justice has always been soft on PMLN Sindh, s ministers were dragged and humiliated Punjab, s Sharif has always been the real ladla
     
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    people of Pakistan will vote for PMLN and they would make a law allowing criminals to walk free to help nawaz sharif than also cutting judicry right to do self notice or here any case against law makers..judiciary will not accept a law which defies common sense..PMLN will refuse to obey......choas will ensure..
     
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    Nawaz never enjoyed the same support which Altaf was enjoying at one time... In one day he became history..

    Nawaz supporters has a history, they go with the Biryani when time calls them...
     
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    The best solution is to burry the doctrine of necessity (nazariya -e - zaroorat) and keep judiciary away from whats app calls , keep agencies away from court rooms , keep the fan families of judges away from court rooms. "Justice must not only be done but seems to be done" a famous quote is the right thing to follow. Courts must give decisions based on solid grounds and past legal practices. For a case of political person court must not introduce any new examples , actions etc like whats app call, JIT formation, monitoring judge of SC , six months trial period, preliminary references, supplementary references, God father novels, disqalification of all Pmln senate candidates, first time in legal history even after apology Nihal sentence etc .Decisions must be to a highest quality that at least the legal fraternity at least is satisfied with the verdicts. For example a PM is disqualified on the basis of black law dictionary which on consulting even does not consider the un withdrawn salary as an asset , countries law does not consider it as an asset and courts indulge in forming new examples. In this scenario , courts will lose its credibility and the historian had always been very cruel as no contempt proceeding is applicable on him .