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What I do this why I do it

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  1. Zarvan

    Zarvan ELITE MEMBER

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    “You are the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and believe in Allah. If only the People of the Scripture had believed, it would have been better for them. Among them are believers, but most of them are defiantly disobedient”. (Surah Aal Imran 3:110)

    “And let there be [arising] from you a nation inviting to [all that is] good, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, and those will be the successful.” (Surah Aal Imran 3: 104)

    “The believing men and believing women are allies of one another. They enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and establish prayer and give zakah and obey Allah and His Messenger. Those – Allah will have mercy upon them. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.” (Surah At-Tawbah 9:71)

    “The hypocrite men and hypocrite women are of one another. They enjoin what is wrong and forbid what is right and close their hands. They have forgotten Allah, so He has forgotten them [accordingly]. Indeed, the hypocrites – it is they who are the defiantly disobedient”. (Surah At-Tawbah 9:67)

    Prophet Muhammad sal-lal-laahu-alaihi-wa-sallam said:
    مَنْ رَأى مِنْكُمْ مُنْكَراً فَلْيُغَيِّرْهُ بِيَدِهِ ، فَإنْ لَمْ يَسْتَطِعْ فَبِلِسَانِهِ ، فَإنْ لَمْ يَسْتَطِعْ فَبِقَلْبِهِ ، وَذَلِكَ أضْعَفُ الإيمَانِ
    “Whoever amongst you sees an evil, he must change it with his hand; if he is unable to do so, then with his tongue; and if he is unable to do so, then with his heart; and that is the weakest form of Faith”. SAHIH MUSLIM

    Prophet sal-lal-laahu-alaihi-wa-sallam said:
    “The likeness of the man who observes the limits prescribed by Allah and that of the man who transgresses them is like the people who get on board a ship after casting lots. Some of them are in its lower deck and some of them in its upper (deck). Those who are in its lower (deck), when they require water, go to the occupants of the upper deck, and say to them : ‘If we make a hole in the bottom of the ship, we shall not harm you.’ If they (the occupants of the upper deck) leave them to carry out their design they all will be drowned. But if they do not let them go ahead (with their plan), all of them will remain safe”. (Hadeeth No. 187 here)

    Prophet sal-lal-laahu-alaihi-wa-sallam said:
    “The likeness of the man who observes the limits prescribed by Allah and that of the man who transgresses them is like the people who get on board a ship after casting lots. Some of them are in its lower deck and some of them in its upper (deck). Those who are in its lower (deck), when they require water, go to the occupants of the upper deck, and say to them : ‘If we make a hole in the bottom of the ship, we shall not harm you.’ If they (the occupants of the upper deck) leave them to carry out their design they all will be drowned. But if they do not let them go ahead (with their plan), all of them will remain safe”. (Hadeeth No. 187 here)

    The Prophet sal-lal-laahu-alaihi-wa-sallam said:
    “By Him in Whose Hand my life is, you either enjoin good and forbid evil, or Allah will certainly soon send His punishment to you. Then you will make supplication and it will not be accepted”. (Hadeeth No. 193, Riyadhus Saliheen, Chapter 23)

    Imam Muslim (r) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (RA) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “There are two types of the people of Hell whom I have not seen…” one of whom was, “women who are clothed yet naked…” According to Imam Ahmad (r) he said: “Curse them, for they are cursed.”

    Indeed, those who like that immorality should be spread [or publicized] among those who have believed will have a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. And Allah knows and you do not know. SURAH NOOR AYAT 19




    So those who have issue first need to read Islam and decide whether they are Muslims or not. If they are and they want to live in Islamic Republic of Pakistan and for their information there is no concept of privacy in Islam specially when you are spreading haram in public. You would be called out in public and stopped. Main responsibility is of state, and if they fail than people have the duty to stop Haram also force state to do its job. I am doing my job which ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW assigned me and every Muslim on face of the earth. If some people here and liberals over have decided to adopt path of Yazeed or are Muslims but don't have gutts to do the job than don't put your moral failure on me. I would keep doing my job.


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  2. Valar.

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    What should Non Muslims in Pakistan do?
    What should Ex Muslims in Pakistan do?
    What should minority Muslim sects in Pakistan do?
    What should majority Muslim sect in Pakistan do who might disagree with your approach?
     
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  3. Zarvan

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    You can be a Non Muslim you have right to practice you religion freely. But in Islamic state there would be some things which you can't cross either but over all you would have pretty much all the freedoms you require. There is no concept of ex Muslim in Islam. Ex Muslims are called Murtid and that is a punishable offence. Things I wrote there is complete consensus among all sects in Islam.
     
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    Zarvan bhai you have done nothing wrong
    Keep doing what you believe in.

    Some people can't accept the fact that others think and believe different
     
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    So, if I was unlucky enough to be born in Muslim family/country and leave Islam, what should I do?
     
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    You are not allowed to pick unrelated and ordered verses of the Koran and place them with unrelated Hadith and then use that to make your own argument. This is against the law of the Koranic study. This is called corruption.
     
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  7. Zarvan

    Zarvan ELITE MEMBER

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    Run
     
  8. Valar.

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    Where?
     
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    Zarvan ELITE MEMBER

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    I haven't done anything janab. All are fully related you want to remain blind to orders of Islam your choice not mine
     
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    I agree with most of your points but not with the punishment for murtid. No there's no general punishment for a murtad (apostate). It was only announced under very particular circumstance, just to end a conspiracy against Islam. But it was never practiced because after the announcement of the punishment the fake conversions stopped.

    There's no punishment for that in Islam in the world.
     
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    Basically he is threatening you.
    This guy is pure jihadi, he was TTP supporter once and he sill supports some jihadi gorups better stay away from this cancer zarvan
     
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    I remember how you used verses to support taliban, then Lal masjid ninjas . They did same, picked selective
     
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    This is one of the most important divine order and the state must implement this.
     
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    No religious threads....
     
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