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I have no idea honestly. The issues are in front of us. Even the solutions are there in front of you in UK, Turkey, China, Japan, South Korea etc.

Our problems are desi retardness which is mashup of our pathetic traditions mixed with religion. Despite these having failed us, we as people refuse to give reform them. Our solution is more of the retarded mix. Unsurprisingly this gets us no where. Repeating the same mistake will only produce the same result.

It's interest you mention UK. Think about it. Why do we Pakistan continue living here? Why are more of us wanting to come here? Is it the weather? Of course not. It is the quality of life it provides.

But what sustains that quality of life? Is it the soil? Is it the hills? Is it the rock? Is it the colour of the people? Of course not. What sustains it is the political, legal system and the culture that informs it. So that in fact is why Pakistani's come here.

But then if you suggest planting of this in Pakistan you will hear cries. They all love talking about China but utterly refuse to look or copy the formula they used for success. Instead they will begin teaching them.

Sometimes I fear we have a IQ issue. I am not saying we don't have bright people. We do. But the average of the masses is low. So they can't see the light. They keep folowing the wrong people. Meaning even if we have a Mao, a Ataturk, a Mahatir, a Erdogan born he will never get the support of the masses because they are easily duped by others.

I hope not but that does worry me sometimes.
See what I mean? IQ challanged.

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Don't be so pessimistic, it is not the case. If you have seen the works of a Chinese writer Lu Xun鲁迅, you will find that the Chinese also felt incorrigible in the 1920s.

Mao Zedong was not recognized by the CCP before 1935. He was always in the minority.In 1935, Chiang Kai-shek almost succeeded in destroying the CCP, and Mao Zedong reversed the whole situation on his own. Since then, absolute leadership has been established.

If you want to find a way to save Pakistan, you can read Mao Zedong's anthology.Learn his methods instead of imitating his behavior.

It should be noted that only methods based on Pakistan's reality and culture can be effective for Pakistan.Power comes from the people, so investigating their situation, understanding their demands, organizing them, and encouraging them to participate in activities is the first step to solve the problem. And all these methods are in Mao Zedong's anthology.
 

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Average IQ of indians is lower than that of Pakistanis and Afghans. Explains why 1.4 billion indians have NEVER EVER invented anything........ :azn::


you are wrong, Indian invented Black fungus by introducing holy shit as a cure for Covid virus.
 

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Don't be so pessimistic, it is not the case. If you have seen the works of a Chinese writer Lu Xun鲁迅, you will find that the Chinese also felt incorrigible in the 1920s.

Mao Zedong was not recognized by the CCP before 1935. He was always in the minority.In 1935, Chiang Kai-shek almost succeeded in destroying the CCP, and Mao Zedong reversed the whole situation on his own. Since then, absolute leadership has been established.

If you want to find a way to save Pakistan, you can read Mao Zedong's anthology.Learn his methods instead of imitating his behavior.

It should be noted that only methods based on Pakistan's reality and culture can be effective for Pakistan.Power comes from the people, so investigating their situation, understanding their demands, organizing them, and encouraging them to participate in activities is the first step to solve the problem. And all these methods are in Mao Zedong's anthology.
WE will get there but certainly not in my lifetime. Indeed expect one or two generations before even the possibility of change opens up. I think Pakistan society is before 1920s China. Possibly 1890. There is absolute resistence to anything that might bring about improvement in Pakistan. Anybody trying will just be tagged as a western libtard or a Chinese slave. If your gonna go by Pakistan's reality then people like Osama Bin Laden, Maoulana Saad Rizvi are stars.

The only reason the country has it's head slightly out of water is because of British influence, British era institutions like army etc or Pakistan would be a mashup of Afghanistan dash Somalia.
 

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WE will get there but certainly not in my lifetime. Indeed expect one or two generations before even the possibility of change opens up. I think Pakistan society is before 1920s China. Possibly 1890. There is absolute resistence to anything that might bring about improvement in Pakistan. Anybody trying will just be tagged as a western libtard or a Chinese slave. If your gonna go by Pakistan's reality then people like Osama Bin Laden, Maoulana Saad Rizvi are stars.

The only reason the country has it's head slightly out of water is because of British influence, British era institutions like army etc or Pakistan would be a mashup of Afghanistan dash Somalia.
According to China's history, backwardness and weakness always bring conservativeness and refusal to change.

But I don't think Pakistan will experience the disasters of China in the past. Pakistan's future may depend on the military or special economic zones like Shenzhen.
 

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Last year, a Chinese video blogger made a video about Pakistan.

His view is that Pakistan’s political structure is problematic and lacks a strong central government.

Political families in various places take turns in power, and they fight for the interests of their hometown, that is, fight for the interests of their own families. Others hinder their policies.He is even more looking forward to Pakistan's military exerting greater political power. When the military government completed the integration of Pakistan, destroyed the political power of the local separatism, and then returned power to the government and the people.

This process is a bit like China's early route. China has destroyed the original local power in China through economic system reforms. Let the whole China become a whole. Then obtained the basic industrial system from the Soviet Union.

Pakistan has the same opportunity, and China can provide better industrialization. But the problem is that the military is far from the strength of the CCP, and it is unable to implement reforms.

I think a certain degree of economic reform is possible. Set up some state-owned enterprises and distribute them to various political families. Let the interests of the political family align with the interests of Pakistan.Just like some people control oil, some people control electricity, some people control communications, and some people control import and export trade.
"His view is that Pakistan’s political structure is problematic and lacks a strong central government."
-Exactly what most Pakistanis feel nowadays. Political structure was always a problem.
 

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"His view is that Pakistan’s political structure is problematic and lacks a strong central government."
-Exactly what most Pakistanis feel nowadays. Political structure was always a problem.
That video was to explain to some Chinese people why Pakistan is a good friend of China, but the economic cooperation between China and Pakistan is very slow.

His opinion is that political families within Pakistan are obstructing each other in order to compete for the economic benefits brought by China.But China's diplomatic principle is not to interfere in internal affairs, so this has become a difficult problem to solve.

Normally, Pakistan should become a model for China’s One Belt and One Road, as well as a model for the Islamic world. Pakistan’s economic and industrial capabilities should have amazing growth. The relationship between the two countries will become closer because of economic cooperation. Otherwise, friendship based on geopolitics will always have some flaws.
 

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