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WESTERNIZING ISLAM TO FREE IT FROM THE WAHABI'S SHACKLE

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And if a Western Islam realizes the reform that releases Wahabist shackles

An idea to curb the international threat of Islamist terrorism and its radical ferocity!

Tuesday 1st of January 2019
by Hugo Mastréo


There are debates that even if we turn away from their path, they cross you and come face to face. Subjects reappear from the depths of souls, as if to refuse the stagnation, burial, and oblivion. Islam and secularism, Islam and modernity and still Islam and its tormented followers hypocrisies and lies that hide the equivocal contradiction between tradition and contemporaneity. A recurring subject but how much discussed that can provoke a lot of controversy.



Several institutions have been conducting reflections for years in order to enlighten and honor the reformist chatter of the religion prophesied by Mohamed. When a lot of violence takes the lead, what to trust? In the sense of the rescue of the generations adepts of the last divine revelation come for the humanity, the ideas abound. Such as that of " Islam of France " firmly adhering to democracy.

However, the break with obscurantism to offer the influence of scientific or sociological knowledge, to break through, is a quest for choice of a rational life that is proposed, or even accomplished, to young Muslims. Indeed, Muslims in the United States , like those in Europe, are connected to developed countries. These people can be considered learned elites with the means that are given to them to extract the discussions of the factual frameworks by the excesses.


Like, in the past, the believers of Andalusia, or the Abbasids who once had a strong civilization. Preceding the European renaissance that became "more widely" the rich Western culture, after the discovery of America, Arab-Muslim erudition promulgated, in his time, scientific discoveries and developed both medicine, mathematics and various other knowledge, having helped to make humanity present.

Muslims who live far from Mecca and away from the anxiety and unstable Arab world, deserve to be listened to. It owes them some status, different from the usual speeches. The Sheikhs and the "fouqaha" of the theology of the East could not produce peace, it is even the contrary the result of their sermons. What happened to the sectarian dichotomy between Sunnis, Shiites and other tendencies that eventually gave birth to a " fitna "? To let decadence take over is unacceptable.

In the United States exists a pluralist movement, animated by Muslims who try to distinguish themselves from Islamism and wish that the term "Islamophobia" does not apply to excess. " Islamophobia " is so overused that it allows obscurantism, which most Muslims suffer from its indecent terrorism, to take the minds of young and old.



The two main American poles that act for a reform of Islam are the AIFD(American Islamic Forum for Democracy) and the CIP (Center for Islamic Pluralism). The first is chaired by a doctor of Syrian origin called Zuhdi Jasser. Former lieutenant of command in the US Navy, he issued a statement regarding the withdrawal of the US military from Syria. It is actually this news that makes our opinion in this article.

And the second comes back to a communist of the pure Marxist-Leninist fabric. The CIP was founded in 2004 by Stephen Suleyman Schwartz , a Jewish family member who converted to Sufi Islam in 1997 and is its director. This former journalist of " Folks Magazine " and former editor of the San Francisco Chronicle , the influential title of the California press, founded in 1865, is also a writer and unionist of American sailors.

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The Ibn-Rushd-Goethe Mosque is the only self-declared liberal mosque in Germany. Inaugurated in June 2017 and named after the medieval Andalusian-Arab polymath Ibn-Rushd and the German writer and statesman Johann Wolfgang von Goeth.
 
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The Saudis have spent hundreds of billions of dollars to spread their brutal and backwards form of Wahhabi Islam across the world, with its radical tentacles reaching into the depths of East Asia and Europe.

Studies in Europe have long warned about the influence of Saudi-funded radical mosques in Europe as producing numerous Islamist terrorists. Last year Belgian authorities took over the largest mosque in Brussels from Saudi Arabia because the mosque had produced so many terrorists.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...nd-mosque-from-saudi-government-idUSKCN1GS2B3

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ng-extremism-in-europe-says-former-ambassador
 
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The Saudis have spent hundreds of billions of dollars to spread their brutal and backwards form of Wahhabi Islam across the world, with its radical tentacles reaching into the depths of East Asia and Europe.

Studies in Europe have long warned about the influence of Saudi-funded radical mosques in Europe as producing numerous Islamist terrorists. Last year Belgian authorities took over the largest mosque in Brussels from Saudi Arabia because the mosque had produced so many terrorists.
I have seen close up how Saudi sponsored infection has spread through the British-Pakistani community with disasterous results.
 
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I have seen close up how Saudi sponsored infection has spread through the British-Pakistani community with disasterous results.
A 2017 report by the Henry Jackson Society found that Saudi Arabia was the biggest funder of radical Islamism in the UK:

"A number of Britain’s most serious Islamist hate preachers sit within the Salafi-Wahhabi ideology and are linked to extremism sponsored from overseas, either by having studied in Saudi Arabia as part of scholarship programmes, or by having been provided with extreme literature and material within the UK itself. There have also been numerous cases of British individuals who have joined Jihadist groups in Iraq and Syria whose radicalisation is thought to link back to foreign funded institutions and preachers."

Wahhabistan spends over £3 billion per year spreading Wahhabism across the world.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...s-says-henry-jackson-society-report-95kxb5c09

https://www.businessinsider.com/hen...under-of-terrorism-in-the-uk-2017-7?r=UK&IR=T
 

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We have an answer it’s called Sufism which has pretty much universal respect from all faiths and people of the world.
It’s a tradition within Islam, no need to make it Western or whatever that means.
 

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Although I'm not religious, I don't think Islam needs to modernize, I think Muslims do.

The Islam we practice today is completely different from 1000 years ago. Back then Muslims had open minds to new ideas and did not just declare everything to be Haram.

Modern Muslims would have burned the works of ancient Greek philosophers, instead of saving it, like our ancestors did.
 

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Political Islam, originally created and promoted by the West, was designed to avert the possibility of any renaissance in the Islamic World.
 

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Lol the West as a source to fold your deen how they want it...

What a waste of time to write all this reform shit .

Islam and Muslims do need any reform except the reform in the heads and hearts of the Muslims: come back to the deen of your lord and don't put anything between him or left or right.. No middlemen and woman no sons and so on.. No bmw no house on the beach no girl on the beach .

One lord one deen one prophet no one brings you near him like it's multiple times mentioned in the Quran

The wahabbi talk or let it call womit speech of certain users is disgusting. They will call everything wahabbi that is not from their sect.. There is no wahabbi its the hanbali school wich is a righteous school of Islam

Sometimes ppl start to worship God and use the right sources and then you will realize that some actions done by Muslims are just invented or a culture thing and if you now do the right thing suddenly ppl will look with strange eyes to yo

you will be called wahabbi extremist or else

We live in really weird times
 

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We have an answer it’s called Sufism which has pretty much universal respect from all faiths and people of the world.
It’s a tradition within Islam, no need to make it Western or whatever that means.
Exactimo! We are being presented with a false dilemma....verily the Architect is cunning indeed!

One could really argue that "Wahabism" is the "Western European" form of Islam, sorta akin to a "Protestant" Islam.....

Political Islam, originally created and promoted by the West, was designed to avert the possibility of any renaissance in the Islamic World.
Would you define Political Islam?
 

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We have an answer it’s called Sufism which has pretty much universal respect from all faiths and people of the world

sufism is another extreem form.. :)

we do not need that answer the real answer lies in sunan al darimi, Abu dawood, Sahih muslim, sahih buklhari, maliks muwatta, tirmidi, sunan nasai, ibn majah, musnad ahmad.. and so on.. just read the sahih and hasan parts and no sufi / mufti is needed so the real answer is pure knowledge and not "I heard what sheikh felan said or dreamed.."
 

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sufism is another extreem form.. :)

we do not need that answer the real answer lies in sunan al darimi, Abu dawood, Sahih muslim, sahih buklhari, maliks muwatta, tirmidi, sunan nasai, ibn majah, musnad ahmad.. and so on.. just read the sahih and hasan parts and no sufi / mufti is needed so the real answer is pure knowledge and not "I heard what sheikh felan said or dreamed.."

No it's not and yes we we Sufis use evidence from the sunnah etc. Go do a search on the forum, we've had plenty of debates about this.
 

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