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For the first time since the end of the INF treaty, the United States has flight tested a ground-launched cruise missile with more than 500km of range. According to the DoD, the test hit the target and will be used for future study and development.

WASHINGTON — The United States has tested a new ground-based cruise missile capable of going over 500 kilometers in range, less than three weeks after officially exiting an arms treaty that banned such systems.

The test occurred 2:30 PM local time Sunday at San Nicolas Island, California, according to a Pentagon announcement. The missile “exited its ground mobile launcher and accurately impacted its target after more than 500 kilometers of flight,” the department said.

“Data collected and lessons learned from this test will inform the Department of Defense’s development of future intermediate-range capabilities.”

The United States exited the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty Aug. 2, following through on a decision made late last year that the treaty no longer benefited American interests.

The INF was a 1987 pact with the former Soviet Union that banned ground-launched nuclear and conventional ballistic and cruise missiles with ranges of 500 to 5,000 kilometers. However, the United States and NATO allies have for years declared Russia in violation of the agreement.


American officials have stressed they do not plan on building a nuclear ground-based cruise missile capability, but Secretary of Defense Mark Esper has said his department will “fully pursue the development of these ground-launched conventional missiles as a prudent response to Russia’s actions and as part of the joint force’s broader portfolio of conventional strike options.”

During a recent trip to the Pacific, Esper also said he would like such weapon systems to end up in Asia as a deterrent to China. The governments in both Australia and South Korea quickly denied that any discussions about such a deployment had occurred, and Esper later downplayed his comments as a future objective.

Congress will have a say in how such systems are developed or deployed. On Capitol Hill, a flashpoint in the fight is $96 million the administration requested to research and test ground-launched missiles that could travel within the agreement’s prohibited range.

The Democrat-controlled House passed a spending bill that would deny the funding ― and a defense authorization bill that would deny it until the administration shares an explanation of whether existing sea- and air-launched missiles could suffice. Senate Republicans are expected to fight that language during the reconciliation process.

https://www.defensenews.com/pentago...jIja2eTLj8K9bIxvqMoyOGsI-IfQepHGDGwYVBAInQJ7k
 
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It is quite ironic that Russia has been arguing for all these years that these US Mark 41 VLS systems positioned throughout Europe were designed to be a threat to Russia because they could launch cruise missiles.

All this time US denied it and never launched cruise missiles using Mark 41.

Now as soon as the US withdraws from the INF Treaty they test a cruise missile fired from a Mark 41 VLS the next day...
 

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It is quite ironic that Russia has been arguing for all these years that these US Mark 41 VLS systems positioned throughout Europe were designed to be a threat to Russia because they could launch cruise missiles.

All this time US denied it and never launched cruise missiles using Mark 41.

Now as soon as the US withdraws from the INF Treaty they test a cruise missile fired from a Mark 41 VLS the next day...
These land based system recently tested MK 41 is on the USN NAVAL SHIPS @Battle of Waterloo
 
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Its only in early 80s When US supplied GROUND LAUNCHED CRUISE MISSILES to UK @Battle of Waterloo
Sorry, I don't understand your point?

I know in 80s US developed GLCM in response to Soviet SS-20 and spread them across Europe, triggering INF negotiations and both to be decommissioned.

My point is that whilst the INF Treaty was still in force, the US had been deploying Mark 41 VLS throughout Europe. Russia had been arguing that this was a threat to their security because they could be used to fire missiles in breach of the INF Treaty, but US denied it. Then a few weeks after US withdraws from the Treaty, the US does exactly what they denied and what Russia was worried about!
 

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Sorry, I don't understand your point?

I know in 80s US developed GLCM in response to Soviet SS-20 and spread them across Europe, triggering INF negotiations and both to be decommissioned.

My point is that whilst the INF Treaty was still in force, the US had been deploying Mark 41 VLS throughout Europe. Russia had been arguing that this was a threat to their security because they could be used to fire missiles in breach of the INF Treaty, but US denied it. Then a few weeks after US withdraws from the Treaty, the US does exactly what they denied and what Russia was worried about!
Are you talking about current situation or talking about 80s, and you're mixing up Mk-41 with GLCM, there is no land version of MK-41, its only built for USN NAVAL SHIP @Battle of Waterloo
 
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Are you talking about current situation or talking about 80s, and you're mixing up Mk-41 with GLCM, there is no land version of MK-41, its only built for USN NAVAL SHIP @Battle of Waterloo
You are mistaken my friend. The recent launch of the ground-launched Tomahawk was fired from a land-based Mark 41 VLS.

Please read:

https://www.defensenews.com/pentago...ed-cruise-missile-in-a-post-inf-treaty-world/
https://qz.com/1691464/us-proves-russia-right-with-its-first-post-treaty-missile-launch/
 

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It is the same thing...

"To be clear, this missile was launched from a Mk 41 vertical launch system(VLS) cell, just like those found on the U.S. Navy's most capable surface combatants. There is no clear indication that the missile was anything different than the Tomahawks the Navy currently employs, namely the Block IV Tactical Tomahawk."

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...-s-test-of-a-ground-launched-tomahawk-missile

ok, this latest test is land based version of MK-41 but before that:disagree::disagree: @Battle of Waterloo
"the fact that it was highly publicized as using the Mark 41 launch system from land is clearly made to irk Russia. America's Aegis Ashore ballistic missile defense sites in Eastern Europe also use ground-based variants of the tried and true Mark 41 VLS. This has led to Russia accusing the U.S. of being able to hide the ability field INF busting missiles on its back doorstep."

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...-s-test-of-a-ground-launched-tomahawk-missile
 

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They are the same... I have produced 3 sources attesting to this fact. Please present one that substantiates your assertion that the ground-launched Tomahawk was not launched from a land-based Mark 41 VLS.

Two more sources to substantiate my argument:

"This past weekend's missile test, according to Defense News, was launched from a land-based Mark 41 launcher. The U.S. has dozens of Mark 41 launchers in Romania and Poland as part of a regional ballistic missile defense system, one designed to protect Europe from missile attack. Russia has claimed that the Mark 41 launchers themselves were INF Treaty violations, as they could carry TLAMs instead of ballistic missile interceptors. U.S. missile experts have responded in the past claiming the launchers deployed in Europe were a version incapable of launching cruise missiles."

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a28750743/ground-launch-missile/

"The test article appears to be a modified MK-41 launcher like those found on U.S. Navy guided-missile cruisers and destroyers mounted on a mobile launcher."

https://news.usni.org/2019/08/19/video-u-s-tests-first-post-inf-ground-based-cruise-missile
 

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They are the same... I have produced 3 sources attesting to this fact. Please present one that substantiates your assertion that the ground-launched Tomahawk was not launched from a land-based Mark 41 VLS.

Two more sources to substantiate my argument:

"This past weekend's missile test, according to Defense News, was launched from a land-based Mark 41 launcher. The U.S. has dozens of Mark 41 launchers in Romania and Poland as part of a regional ballistic missile defense system, one designed to protect Europe from missile attack. Russia has claimed that the Mark 41 launchers themselves were INF Treaty violations, as they could carry TLAMs instead of ballistic missile interceptors. U.S. missile experts have responded in the past claiming the launchers deployed in Europe were a version incapable of launching cruise missiles."

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a28750743/ground-launch-missile/

"The test article appears to be a modified MK-41 launcher like those found on U.S. Navy guided-missile cruisers and destroyers mounted on a mobile launcher."

https://news.usni.org/2019/08/19/video-u-s-tests-first-post-inf-ground-based-cruise-missile
They made mobile launcher system using Mk-41’s internal canisters which won’t make it Mk-41 again
 

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