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Washington Post: Did India shoot down a Pakistani F-16 in February? This just became a big deal.

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BJP have lots of other things to worry about. This incident will play with the core voters or the rich folks but for majority voters (poor & middle class people like us) domestic issues like state of economy, unemployement and some other regional issues are major factor. Even the opposition are not bringing up anything about the incidents. On radio/print ads its mostly economy, citizenship issue, mundane things like LPG supply seems to be major issue. To be honest foreign newspaper are making out it a big deal out of this issue vis-a-vis election, but over here its completely different.
the whole nation except core voters and rich knows this then why not your PM realize. and why would opposition bring the issue up, it was Modi ji's plan, they can't own it, copyright issues.
everything is good when foreign newspapers write about Pakistan, let them enjoy the other narrative too.
 

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Hesitated? We hit them in broad day light panicking them so much that they shot down their own helicopter killing 6 of their jawans and lost two jets to PAF. A response cannot be any clearer than this.
Where did you for this from? I didn’t write this on this thread. It’s old.
 

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The positive situation for Pakistan from the recent stand off is calling indian conventional military superiority bluff when we entered deep inside IOK in broad day light soon after threatening them that we will strike at the place and time of our choosing.
The real win here is exposing the lies of Indian media and state on a global scale
 

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If the IAF did not, in fact, shoot down a Pakistani F-16, voters might conclude that India carried out airstrikes and has nothing to show for them but lost a pilot, a warplane, a helicopter and six other military personnel.
 

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The real win here is exposing the lies of Indian media and state on a global scale
True this is the biggest win for Pakistan and international world media, exposing lies, fake news, exagerated stories, constant misleading the world by Indian media, Indian govt and India's poor military engulfed in it. Throughly exposed Indian media and some western journalists who tried to support India's repeated false narratives stand humilated, factless, dented and seriously questioned them about the integrity of fair honest reporting and journalism. The world is changing.

Almost everyone in world now doubts and hardly believes what India has to say and its baseless show.
 

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Why?? Because he didnt want to see any more f16 being taken down.
8 russian aircraft not only defended 24 jets from Paf but chased them into p0k and got one. But you win. Ok.
No F16 was shotdown.

Why Pompeo ordered India to stand done in his comical circus against Pakistan? when USA realised the true level of indian army. If India was destroyed by Pakistan, then how would USA use them against China?
 

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No F16 was shotdown.

Why Pompeo ordered India to stand done in his comical circus against Pakistan? when USA realised the true level of indian army. If India was destroyed by Pakistan, then how would USA use them against China?
You are talking as if 4 wars were won. Before chest thumping one mig chased your f16s back into your territory outnumbered 3 to 1 and shot one. It is only due to this that he asked india to backoff
 

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China is the real winner. China has quantity and quality over Indian airforce. They can learn alot from PAF. Our airforce has pilots and technicians through the middle east. Qatar, KSA and others. Rafale and eurofighters strengths and weakness will be known to us and China.
 

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You are talking as if 4 wars were won. Before chest thumping one mig chased your f16s back into your territory outnumbered 3 to 1 and shot one. It is only due to this that he asked india to backoff
First time in the history of air combat when an air force thinks its aircraft loss and the rest of its air force being made combat ineffective is a victory. You are truly all jokers. An air force with greater number of aircraft got "outnumbered" supposedly.

That speaks to IAF lack of preparedness and horrible planning if true.

Also, why has the IAF clammed up about the helicopter it shot down? Where are the court martials? Why is Abhinandan in hiding? Why has no one heard from Abhinandan's wingman? What was he doing? Is he still alive? These are the questions you should be asking your air force.
 

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The positive situation for Pakistan from the recent stand off is calling indian conventional military superiority bluff when we entered deep inside IOK in broad day light soon after threatening them that we will strike at the place and time of our choosing.
you have also initiated a series of orders that were pending due to this delusion, IAF has got a reality check and loop holes have been identified, iam glad it was just a skirmish and not a war, because if it was, we would had lost territory in the first week or so and then would had been able to regain our land after few days due to our numerical superiority, now IAF is hell bent for MCA and AMCA, Home grown tejas is far better than a rafale costing 4 times more...

First time in the history of air combat when an air force thinks its aircraft loss and the rest of its air force being made combat ineffective is a victory. You are truly all jokers. An air force with greater number of aircraft got "outnumbered" supposedly.

That speaks to IAF lack of preparedness and horrible planning if true.

Also, why has the IAF clammed up about the helicopter it shot down? Where are the court martials? Why is Abhinandan in hiding? Why has no one heard from Abhinandan's wingman? What was he doing? Is he still alive? These are the questions you should be asking your air force.
Overconfidence gets you everytime, PAF was well prepared with an ambush, IAF fell for the trap because PAF EW was effective in controlled Air superiority space, same was done by IAF last night on 26...
 

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Boss, it is a fact that there were 8 iaf jets scrambled as opposed to 24 paf. On 26 feb 4 iaf jets ingressed and paf scrambled 0. That's why they came back safely and not shot down like f16.
But the magical radar image that the Indian paraded as proof did not show these "24" PAF fighters? Are you saying those radar images were inaccurate?

Also, this analogy is akin to getting Indian punched in the face and then claiming victory because Pakistan also didn't kick them in the balls
 

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