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Afghan human rights activist Horia Mosadiq, who has been helping victims to support the ICC probe for many years, called the announcement "an insult to thousands of other victims of crimes by Afghan government forces and US and NATO forces".
 

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But the United States is not a party to the ICC, and imposed sanctions against the office of the prosecutor for investigating the role of US forces.

A lawyer who represents Afghan victims of suspected US torture in the ICC investigation said the narrowing of its focus was "deeply flawed".

"Allowing powerful states to get away (with) multi-year, multi-continent torture against so many, feeds impunity for all," she said on Twitter.


If some criminal mafia group threatens the judge with economic repercussions, is not that judge tainted.

Even says so here:

But the United States is not a party to the ICC, and imposed sanctions against the office of the prosecutor for investigating the role of US forces. Shifting the focus of the probe (to blaming Muslims) could help mend the court's relationship with Washington.

When the "court" has a "relationship" with the criminal, how effective is that court.?.
 
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Afghan human rights activist Horia Mosadiq, who has been helping victims to support the ICC probe for many years, called the announcement "an insult to thousands of other victims of crimes by Afghan government forces and US and NATO forces".
The United States is an exception. They can do anything evil to maintain a rule-based international order.
 

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The United States is an exception. They can do anything evil to maintain a rule-based international order.
And there are some evil who supported such evil @PeaceGen

Then bragging in the name of righteous and human right. What an insult to humanity!
 

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US is just a big war time criminal having the cheek to accuse others. Shame on them.
I believe the US should respect the ICC..
But i also know for a fact that Chinese leaders have been extremely cruel, often on an even larger scale than NATO ever has been, to effect that 'one china policy' of theirs.
You can't expect others to better their ways if you keep denying the evil you do yourselves. #Uighurs #Tibetans #Taiwan #HongKong
And there are some evil who supported such evil @PeaceGen

Then bragging in the name of righteous and human right. What an insult to humanity!
I don't support any war crimes being made by anyone. I regularly call for such things to end.
 

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I believe the US should respect the ICC..
But i also know for a fact that Chinese leaders have been extremely cruel, often on an even larger scale than NATO ever has been, to effect that 'one china policy' of theirs.
You can't expect others to better their ways if you keep denying the evil you do yourselves. #Uighurs #Tibetans #Taiwan #HongKong

I don't support any war crimes being made by anyone. I regularly call for such things to end.
Nonsense, you are admire of US democracy and their double standard human right. I can easily pointed out many times of your supportive statement with regards to US.

Now under probe and u change goalpost so quickly? Why are u supporting such evil? Afghan is not human being in your eyes, right? Stop your play acting of righteous and real concern for man kind.

U are an insult to all humanity for living your life under a mask.
 

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Nonsense, you are admire of US democracy and their double standard human right. I can easily pointed out many times of your supportive statement with regards to US.

Now under probe and u change goalpost so quickly? Why are u supporting such evil? Afghan is not human being in your eyes, right? Stop your play acting of righteous and real concern for man kind.

U are an insult to all humanity for living your life under a mask.
reported as a lie and insult.
 

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reported as a lie and insult.
Insult, the real insult is you, bragging in the name of righteous under the pretext with all king evil supporting US imperialism. Always praising the US democracy and their so called freedom.

So why suddenly democracy, human right and freedom for Afghan disappeared. They are not human, under your eyes, right? Dont avoid my inquiry!


Praising US war in afghanistan including killing civilian.


Even got the cheek to lecture others on how we shall do a US style? Do what? Slaughter Muslim civilian?
 
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Insult, the real insult is you, bragging in the name of righteous under the pretext with all king evil supporting US imperialism. Always praising the US democracy and their so called freedom.

So why suddenly democracy, human right and freedom for Afghan disappeared. They are not human, under your eyes, right? Dont avoid my inquiry!


Praising US war in afghanistan including killing civilian.


Even got the cheek to lecture others on how we shall do a US style? Do what? Slaughter Muslim civilian?
I did warned Muslims clearly about the dangers to themselves of tacitly or openly supporting international terrorists, and the rest of my posts are crystal clear as well.

At no point did i support the killing of civilians. And i do speak out against that, not just on this forum but on a US forum and towards my mailinglist of political parties, intel agencies and mass media companies as well.
I've even begun exploring and promoting military technological developments to drastically reduce the number of civilian casualties made in the *necessary* actions against terrorists.

I also don't support regional wars or arms races.

You on the other hand, are a classic 2-faced Chinese propaganda troll, who seems to like nothing better than to insult anyone who doesn't bow to China unconditionally.
Constantly you speak of Chinese greatness, while flatout denying your country's debt trap practices or mass imprisonment, torture, and other grave offenses against your own more separatist-minded minorities, for which evidence and witness accounts keep appearing in international media.

Ultimately, it is this kind of hubris and arrogance that will lead to the halting of the rise of China as a regional (let alone world-stage) power.
And i'll be smiling when *that* finally happens. The seeds are being planted[0], and all China can do is casually threaten with nuclear war [against Australia and their patrolling of the *international waters* of the South China Sea], hoping to intimidate the rivals that you yourselves have made through your own hidden and public foreign policies.
You're going to find out that NATO and it's allies can brush those threats[1] off. And don't forget : we *also* strike first with nuclear weapons when we or our allies are threatened to the existential level.

[0] https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/aukus-uk-us-and-australia-launch-pact-to-counter-china.723367/

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Decreasing tensions by mutual adoption of a minimum credible deterrent posture[edit]
Instead of relying on sophisticated communications links and launch-on-warning postures, the French, British, and Chinese have chosen to assume different nuclear postures more suited to minimum credible deterrence, or the capability to inflict unacceptable losses so as to prevent the use of nuclear weapons against them, rather than pursuing types of nuclear weapons suitable to first-strike use.[citation needed]

The People's Republic of China is believed to pursue a minimum credible deterrent/second strike strategy with regards to the United States. This may or may not be true with regards to the PRC's stance with regard to Russia, as the majority of Chinese nuclear platforms are non-intercontinental, and are deployed on the Russian-Chinese border. Unlike the relations of the United States and the PRC, the PRC and Russia have had military conflicts in the past. In recent years, the PRC has improved its early-warning systems and renovated certain of its platforms for intercontinental strike; this may or may not be due to the U.S. missile defense system. In general, it appears[according to whom?] that the PRC's leaders do not greatly fear a first strike, due to their posture of inflicting unacceptable losses upon an adversary as opposed to the U.S./Russian policy of trying to "win" a nuclear war; the Chinese arsenal is considered sufficient to ensure that such a first strike would not go unavenged.

The United Kingdom and France possess sophisticated nuclear weapons platforms; and their nuclear strategies are minimum credible deterrent-based. Each possesses ballistic missile submarines armed with intercontinental submarine-launched ballistic missiles to ensure a second strike retaliation anywhere in the world. France also possesses a number of nuclear capable fighter aircraft. Both countries' nuclear policies are believed to be that of effective deterrence towards a would be nuclear strike against themselves, NATO, European Union members and other allies.
So i don't think China can "take back Taiwan by force" anytime soon.
And this is a good thing. You'll just violently oppress the Taiwanese like you did with the peoples of Hong Kong, Tibet, and Xinjiang.
 

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I did warned Muslims clearly about the dangers to themselves of tacitly or openly supporting international terrorists, and the rest of my posts are crystal clear as well.

At no point did i support the killing of civilians. And i do speak out against that, not just on this forum but on a US forum and towards my mailinglist of political parties, intel agencies and mass media companies as well.
I've even begun exploring and promoting military technological developments to drastically reduce the number of civilian casualties made in the *necessary* actions against terrorists.

I also don't support regional wars or arms races.

You on the other hand, are a classic 2-faced Chinese propaganda troll, who seems to like nothing better than to insult anyone who doesn't bow to China unconditionally.
Constantly you speak of Chinese greatness, while flatout denying your country's debt trap practices or mass imprisonment, torture, and other grave offenses against your own more separatist-minded minorities, for which evidence and witness accounts keep appearing in international media.

Ultimately, it is this kind of hubris and arrogance that will lead to the halting of the rise of China as a regional (let alone world-stage) power.
And i'll be smiling when *that* finally happens. The seeds are being planted[0], and all China can do is casually threaten with nuclear war [against Australia and their patrolling of the *international waters* of the South China Sea], hoping to intimidate the rivals that you yourselves have made through your own hidden and public foreign policies.
You're going to find out that NATO and it's allies can brush those threats[1] off. And don't forget : we *also* strike first with nuclear weapons when we or our allies are threatened to the existential level.

[0] https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/aukus-uk-us-and-australia-launch-pact-to-counter-china.723367/

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So i don't think China can "take back Taiwan by force" anytime soon.
And this is a good thing. You'll just violently oppress the Taiwanese like you did with the peoples of Hong Kong, Tibet, and Xinjiang.
Aren't you out of topic here, and intend to divert the thread into something else? @Eagle
 

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I did warned Muslims clearly about the dangers to themselves of tacitly or openly supporting international terrorists, and the rest of my posts are crystal clear as well.

At no point did i support the killing of civilians. And i do speak out against that, not just on this forum but on a US forum and towards my mailinglist of political parties, intel agencies and mass media companies as well.
I've even begun exploring and promoting military technological developments to drastically reduce the number of civilian casualties made in the *necessary* actions against terrorists.

I also don't support regional wars or arms races.

You on the other hand, are a classic 2-faced Chinese propaganda troll, who seems to like nothing better than to insult anyone who doesn't bow to China unconditionally.
Constantly you speak of Chinese greatness, while flatout denying your country's debt trap practices or mass imprisonment, torture, and other grave offenses against your own more separatist-minded minorities, for which evidence and witness accounts keep appearing in international media.

Ultimately, it is this kind of hubris and arrogance that will lead to the halting of the rise of China as a regional (let alone world-stage) power.
And i'll be smiling when *that* finally happens. The seeds are being planted[0], and all China can do is casually threaten with nuclear war [against Australia and their patrolling of the *international waters* of the South China Sea], hoping to intimidate the rivals that you yourselves have made through your own hidden and public foreign policies.
You're going to find out that NATO and it's allies can brush those threats[1] off. And don't forget : we *also* strike first with nuclear weapons when we or our allies are threatened to the existential level.

[0] https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/aukus-uk-us-and-australia-launch-pact-to-counter-china.723367/

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So i don't think China can "take back Taiwan by force" anytime soon.
And this is a good thing. You'll just violently oppress the Taiwanese like you did with the peoples of Hong Kong, Tibet, and Xinjiang.
LoL.. u just randomly take an individual Chinese and then claim as example?

How about this one?

US admiral threathen nuclear war with China and Russia? Don't tell me admiral is insignificant? Who is the warmonger, who sail 6000m from Hawaii to somebody doorstep and threaten war on someone?

And u claim u warn Muslim or concern about them? What a joke! I am right u r just an evil who is in collaboration with evil american. In previous post, u claim US shall accept ICC trial. Next moment, u claim u support US provocation navigation of freedom. U cannot selectively support an evil act while cordone another. I am right about u of your crocodile tears for this victims.

You shall be ashamed of your inhumane.
 
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LoL.. u just randomly take an individual Chinese and then claim as example?

How about this one?

US admiral threathen nuclear war with China and Russia? Don't tell me admiral is insignificant? Who is the warmonger, who sail 6000m from Hawaii to somebody doorstep and threaten war on someone?

And u claim u warn Muslim or concern about them? What a joke! I am right u r just an evil who is in collaboration with evil american. In previous post, u claim US shall accept ICC trial. Next moment, u claim u support US provocation navigation of freedom. U cannot selectively support an evil act while cordone another. I am right about u of your crocodile tears for this victims.

You shall be ashamed of your inhumane.
I didn't take any random Chinese and use that as example.
I used statements by the Chinese government and Chinese govt lapdog trolls like yourself as examples.

My concern for the innocent is sincere. But so are my warnings about the potential consequences of supporting terrorism or territorial claims by China.

You continue to paint me as some kind of demon, but i'm not. I'm merely a free man speaking out for freedom (of Taiwan, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Tibet, and the actual neighbors of the South China Sea in particular).

You say we abandoned the Afghans, but that is also untrue.
We are trying to force the Taliban to allow ordinary Afghans a measure of continued freedom, by withholding the large sums of money that you would have us hand over to the Taliban unconditionally and which thus wuld end up in the hands of corrupt tribal and Taliban leaders, but at the same time supporting the NGOs that bring the actual help to ordinary Afghans.
Aren't you out of topic here, and intend to divert the thread into something else? @Eagle
Definitely not. I am merely bringing the morality war that @Beast brought to me, back to him, since the mooderators wont act against his lies about me.
 
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I didn't take any random Chinese and use that as example.
I used statements by the Chinese government and Chinese govt lapdog trolls like yourself as examples.

My concern for the innocent is sincere. But so are my warnings about the potential consequences of supporting terrorism or territorial claims by China.

You continue to paint me as some kind of demon, but i'm not. I'm merely a free man speaking out for freedom (of Taiwan, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Tibet, and the actual neighbors of the South China Sea in particular).

You say we abandoned the Afghans, but that is also untrue.
We are trying to force the Taliban to allow ordinary Afghans a measure of continued freedom, by withholding the large sums of money that you would have us hand over to the Taliban unconditionally and which thus wuld end up in the hands of corrupt tribal and Taliban leaders, but at the same time supporting the NGOs that bring the actual help to ordinary Afghans.

Definitely not. I am merely bringing the morality war that @Beast brought to me, back to him.
What a new low u can get... U pick a random Chinese girl Twitter post and then claim as Chinese government stance? Lol

While u can ignore an US admiral nuclear war statement on Russia and China and feign ignorance?

There is no selective freedom. You use the blood of Muslim like afghan, Syria and Iraqi to mask your pretenius righteous for hong Kong,Tibet, Xinjiang.

Suddenly your righteous for Kashmir, Palestine, Syria , Iraqi , Afghanistan disappeared. If u want to claim u equally concern about them. Stop supporting US action. They are nothing righteous or human right. Drop your crocodile tear acting.

I am right u are inhumane. Just blood thristy evil who seek global domination.
 

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What a new low u can get... U pick a random Chinese girl Twitter post and then claim as Chinese government stance? Lol

While u can ignore an US admiral nuclear war statement on Russia and China and feign ignorance?

There is no selective freedom. You use the blood of Muslim like afghan, Syria and Iraqi to mask your pretenius righteous for hong Kong,Tibet, Xinjiang.

Suddenly your righteous for Kashmir, Palestine, Syria , Iraqi , Afghanistan disappeared. If u want to claim u equally concern about them. Stop supporting US action. They are nothing righteous or human right. Drop your crocodile tear acting.

I am right u are inhumane. Just blood thristy evil who seek global domination.
Well, i investigated further, and i'm happy to learn that the statement in that girl's retweeted video was indeed just a trial baloon by some CCP comittee, not the government's official policy yet.

But you are completely wrong about that Admiral and me. We warn our rivals and enemies not to cross certain lines of behavior, and we do prepare for the worst.

That does not mean we don't care about innocents. We do, and we support the innocent as much as we can.
We are simply forced to use force, sometimes still in ways that regrettably create civilian casualties as well, by enemies that hate us so much that they'll pre-emptively or vengefully use force against us, our civilians or our allies.
Your own hate mongering against us fuels such groups.
 

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