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Usage of "Indian Subcontinent" should be banned, Say "Asian Subcontinent"

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If your parents name you "Nathu Laal", and after conquering your home your conqueror starts calling you "David"; it is a humiliation to you and your parents. Because "Nathu Laal" is your name and "David" is imposed on you :P

Also Bharat, India, Hind, Hindustan, British India and Republic of India at the time of their conception had absolutely different geographical boundaries with multiple nations living in them :)
That's where you're wrong. None of the civilizations you mention called us India/Hind/Hindustan only after conquering, it was what they called the region from much before. They retained the same name after becoming rulers.
It's like your parents named you something, but you're friends had a nickname for you which also was due to a specific reason based on your identity, down the line when that friend becomes your boss he still calls you by that nickname, yes it's different but doesn't seperate you from your identity.

Actually "indian" is misleading considering India historically is within Pakistan and not the rest of the subcontinent.
It doesn't matter that indus is in what is currently Pakistan. What matters is what the world associates with the word India and that is by far current mainland India and Indian civilization/culture.
When christopher columbus went in search of India he wasn't thinking of landing in Indus river lol, mainly south India which was the spice basket along with south east asian nations.
 

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That's where you're wrong. None of the civilizations you mention called us India/Hind/Hindustan only after conquering, it was what they called the region from much before. They retained the same name after becoming rulers.

You will be very sorry to know that:

-what Arab called Hind is not the land mass of today's Republic of India. It was part modern day Sindh/parts of Balochistan area.

-what Turks and Persians called Hindustan is not the land mass of today's Republic of India. The land beyond East of the Indus river was considered Hindustan with no end boundary. Every time they will defeat the native kings and they will just include the new land as "part of Hindustan".

-what different European conquerors (e.g., Greeks, Portuguese, French, British) called India is not the land mass of today's Republic of India. They just keep adding everyone under one name as "Indians"

Conquerors just kept playing/changing and imposing their names at you. Defeated people can't have their own identity .................... lols :P
 

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Even "Hinduism" should be gotten rid of, considering it is a concept first ignited the Ghoris and later mis-conceptualized by the British.
 

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You will be very sorry to know that:

-what Arab called Hind is not the land mass of today's Republic of India. It was part modern day Sindh/parts of Balochistan area.

-what Turks and Persians called Hindustan is not the land mass of today's Republic of India. The land beyond East of the Indus river was considered Hindustan with no end boundary. Every time they will defeat the native kings and they will just include the new land as "part of Hindustan".

-what different European conquerors (e.g., Greeks, Portuguese, French, British) called India is not the land mass of today's Republic of India. They just keep adding everyone under one name as "Indians"

Conquerors just kept playing/changing and imposing their names at you. Defeated people can't have their own identity .................... lols :P
How can you even expect modern boundaries to exactly match to ancient estimates? What matters is if it roughly means the Indian subcontinent.
And also defeated people? Says a Pakistani, lol if delusion had to be personified. :lol:
 

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Like South Africa I would have loved it more if India was named as South Asia instead of India......



Indus originates from Tibet my friend and then crossing kashmir it goes into Pakistan..... So it's not solely a Pak river.....
India name originates from Indus Valley not river Indus itself. That majority of it is in Pakistan. Most of Indus Valley civilizations I believe are in Pakistan. Go claim Ganga plains for yourself and start calling yourself Gangu. :P(joking)
 

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The Indiots are very clever for trying to "promote" "Indian subcontinent" on the internet such as wikipedia.

Or enemies of Pakistan say "Indian subcontinent."

A dumbass from the west would go to wikipedia for quick information and then think Pakistan is part of "Indian subcontinent or India."

Then its like no dumbass we are Pakistanis, and not Indians.

Say the term: " South Asia" or "Asian Subcontinent."

Or they try marginalize Pakistanis, Muslims, etc.

See this stupid wikipedia page.

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However I also see wikipedia using the phrase "South Asia."
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@Abid123 , I know you are online right now. Your views?
 
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Maybe we should also remove the name "urdu" for our national language and go back to it's first, original & indigenous name. No sarcasm. The name "urdu" appeared in Dehli in 1780s from the poet Ghulam Mashafi. But it appeared in Lahore over 700 years earlier and was not known by any such name. We should officially revive that name.
 

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Maybe we should also remove the name "urdu" for our national language and go back to it's first, original & indigenous name. No sarcasm. The name "urdu" appeared in Dehli in 1780s from the poet Ghulam Mashafi. But it appeared in Lahore over 700 years earlier and was not known by any such name. We should officially revive that name.
Kind of stupid remark. Urdu is associated with Muslims. Hindi is associated with Hindus.

Do you even know Pakistani history? It was Syed Ahmad Khan who promoted Urdu.
 

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Kind of stupid remark. Urdu is associated with Muslims. Hindi is associated with Hindus.

Do you even know Pakistani history? It was Syed Ahmad Khan who promoted Urdu.

Yeah I do- better than you, so your remark is stupid & ignorant. The name "urdu" first appeared in Delhi around 1780 by the poet Mushafi.

However when the language itself first appeared in Lahore probably during the late 1020s, it was known as Lashkari, short for Lashkari Zaban. This represented the social status of the language, while Hindavi, Hindui, Hindi & Hindustani all pertained to the Indus river bed, which is in Pakistan.

And what do you mean by "Hindus?" It is a name the Persians gave for the natives of the Indus, which is essentially us Pakistanis. If you mean the religious sense, then you're badly confused:

"The term Hindu was first imposed on south Asian nations by the Afghan dynasty of Ghori in the 12th century; this term was never used in south Asia prior to the Muslim era and is not even found in early (pre-12th century AD) Brahmanical or Buddhist texts. Such a term and concept has no historical depth in any social, religious, ethnic or national sense past the 12th century when Mohammed Ghori for the first time named his conquered subjects Hindus." [G. Singh,
Sakasthan and India, Toronto, 1999, p. 20]
 
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That's where you're wrong. None of the civilizations you mention called us India/Hind/Hindustan only after conquering, it was what they called the region from much before. They retained the same name after becoming rulers.
It's like your parents named you something, but you're friends had a nickname for you which also was due to a specific reason based on your identity, down the line when that friend becomes your boss he still calls you by that nickname, yes it's different but doesn't seperate you from your identity.


It doesn't matter that indus is in what is currently Pakistan. What matters is what the world associates with the word India and that is by far current mainland India and Indian civilization/culture.
When christopher columbus went in search of India he wasn't thinking of landing in Indus river lol, mainly south India which was the spice basket along with south east asian nations.

If you look at south Asian continent India alone covers 70% of total subcontinent so by default this is enough to make it Indian subcontinent
 

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If you look at south Asian continent India alone covers 70% of total subcontinent so by default this is enough to make it Indian subcontinent
True and what Pakistanis need to work on is to remove their association with India and either create a strong Pakistani or middle eastern identity, not to modify anything that has India in it, that solves nothing.
 

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