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USA Saudi Arabia Sale Is Said to be $30 Billion, With New 84 F-15 jets

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  1. Lankan Ranger

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    USA Saudi Arabia Sale Is Said to be $30 Billion, With New 84 F-15 jets

    A proposed U.S. arms sale to Saudi Arabia will include 84 new Boeing Co. F-15 fighter jets and may be valued at as much as $30 billion, according to a government official familiar with the plan.

    The deal also calls for selling 72 UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters built by United Technologies Corp.’s Sikorsky unit and refurbishing 70 Saudi F-15s, said the official, who asked not to be identified because terms are still under discussion.

    Navy Vice Admiral Jeffrey Wieringa, director of the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, which oversees foreign sales, said separately today that Congress may be formally notified “within two months” about the transaction, which he said includes F- 15s, helicopters, ships and missile-defense systems. He said he couldn’t give specifics.

    “There are three major efforts for Saudi Arabia -- aviation, Army missile defense-related and Navy,” Wieringa said in an interview at the Farnborough Air Show near London. “We have been working all those for about four years or so. Saudi is a key country for us and we continue to work hard.”

    Negotiations were already under way in August 2007, when Wieringa’s predecessor, then-Air Force Lieutenant General Jeffrey Kohler, said in an interview that a sale to the kingdom might be valued at as much as $20 billion and include F-15s, Littoral Combat Ships and satellite-guided bomb kits.

    Bolstering Allies

    Completing the deal would be a step toward President Barack Obama’s goal of buttressing the defense capabilities of Middle East allies to counter Iran’s growing offensive missile might and suspected nuclear weapons program. It would be part of the Gulf Security Initiative started by the Bush administration.

    The $30 billion total includes hardware as well as spare parts, training and support, according to the government official who asked not to be identified.

    Saudi Arabia’s last significant U.S. weapons purchase was 72 F-15s in 1992, a transaction valued at as much as $9 billion. The last planes in that contract were delivered in November 1999.

    The kingdom spent $36.7 billion worldwide on arms and support activities from 2001 to 2008, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service.

    “I can’t go into specifics,” Wieringa said of negotiations surrounding the arms package. “When the two countries agree on a deal and Congress agrees, then I can talk about it.”

    Notifying Congress

    Notification of Congress usually occurs in three stages in such deals. First are preliminary discussions with members and staff of the Senate and House foreign affairs committees, followed by a 20-day “informal” notice. Those steps would be followed by a 30-day review period after which the Pentagon submits a formal notification. Congress could then reject all or parts of the package.

    The U.S. has previously sold Saudi Arabia Boeing-built AWACS surveillance aircraft, Sikorsky’s UH-60 Black Hawks, Raytheon Co.-built Patriot and Hawk missile defense systems, and General Dynamics Corp.’s M1A2 tanks.

    Boeing, based in Chicago, fell 70 cents, or 1.1 percent, to $63.18 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. Hartford, Connecticut-based United Technologies dropped 51 cents to $67.03 as broad market indexes declined.

    U.S. Saudi Sale Is Said to Approach $30 Billion Including 84 F-15 Fighters - Bloomberg
     
  2. nomi007

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    i hope these are newly stealth jets of series f-15se
     
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    30 bln :woot: this is what I called fuzool karchi, who they scared off?
     
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    They forgot to mention that Israel will get same amount of free millitary aid for maintain strategic advantage over neighbours. However it wont be in a form of some useless jets and choppers but some high tech toys.
    Saudis are probably the favourite customer of international defence contractors. Price does not matter and they wont bully any neighbours with their toys..

    Wham bham thankyou mam..

    we should negotiate a covert aggrements with Saudis to let them buy hightech hardware on our behalf and let access fo PAF in war time.
     
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    Folks,

    Please get out of this mentality where only our expenses are okay and those of the Arabs are excessive or a waste or as if they need to buy things for us to use.

    Each country has its own threat perception. The Saudis are no exception. Just like us, they too have their force modernization plans that take into account their regional threats. Saudis can buy what they must and we should respect that instead of ridiculing it.

    If what the Saudis do is fazool kharchi, then we should realize that the $30 billion they spend is much less in terms of a ratio of their forex and revenue collection as compared to us. We are the ones who are forced into expensive purchases that, although are a necessity, are very expensive ones.

    Gone are the days when the gulf and the Saudis required advice from us on how to develop their forces. They interoperate with many others and have a good idea as to how they should increase their capabilities.

    If the Saudis can afford it, I'd rather have them maintain military readiness instead of falling behind. New generation of F-15s and Typhoons would be a pretty diversified capability...although Saudis should have tried to join the F-35 program.
     
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    30 Billion Dollars is ALOT OF PLANES
     
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    30 billion dollars ???and Indians call the 10 billion MRCA deal "mother of all deals'.. it should be called a kid of a deal or bacha deal from now on.
     
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    Iran, Turkey and Al Qaida. Israel is a buddy.
     
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    Letting Iran achieve power- Project is huge success for Uncle Sam and its the best way they can cash in arab petro dollars $$
     
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    because you guys love to use words like indignus and worlds no-1 or no-2 or bigest ever deal:D
     
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    Petrol dollars talk buddy..Now in case of arabs I like to say..Saudis had been stealing lots of US money by hiking opec price..Now Americans want their money back and gonna trade some gear for it.

    True indeed. Once that happens..Uncle Sam has an open ticket to establish bases around GCC much like it did with Iraq. The year is 2011 and Iraq has been replaced by Iran. Uncle sam wasnt happy since King Abudllah kicked their 100K millitary personals out.
     
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    Oh man! $30 billion for this!? Looks like US companies got a Bonanza deal! :lol:. I am sure they won't have haggled for the offer terms to display their money power.

    $30 billion for 84 F-15s and 72 choppers?