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I always knew my ex-school classmate Asim Iftikhar was a genius, on a serious note he was probably given directions by our establishment to make such a bold comment. Nevertheless, in school we used to call him CHUDDU. :D
Nonetheless, the good thing is that Pakistan is finally learning how to play international geopolitical games better by blowing hot and cold at the same time. Now, if they can keep their eye on the ball and follow through to the end of the match, it will get even better. Until the next match.
 

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Pakistan not under pressure to recognise or not to recognise Taliban govt; Islamabad "does not come under pressure", FO says.

This!

USA being humiliated monthly by a 3rd world country!
 

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Pakistan not under pressure to recognise or not to recognise Taliban govt; Islamabad "does not come under pressure", FO says.

This!

USA being humiliated monthly by a 3rd world country!

Sir, what are any strategic benefits in delaying the recognition? BTW please read below what Pakistan's Ambassador to the United States have stated:

Pakistan is monitoring the ability of the new Taliban government in Afghanistan to deliver on commitments and promises to uphold human rights that they have made to the international community before extending recognition to it, Pakistan's Ambassador to the United States Asad Majeed Khan has said.

Click here for complete news article.

Meanwhile China and Turkey are steps ahead of Pakistan in the recognizing Taliban.

Now leaving US which is pushing Pakistan to NOT recognize Taliban and that is why the delay...
 

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Sir, what are any strategic benefits in delaying the recognition? BTW please read below what Pakistan's Ambassador to the United States have stated:

Pakistan is monitoring the ability of the new Taliban government in Afghanistan to deliver on commitments and promises to uphold human rights that they have made to the international community before extending recognition to it, Pakistan's Ambassador to the United States Asad Majeed Khan has said.

Click here for complete news article.

Meanwhile China and Turkey are steps ahead of Pakistan in the recognizing Taliban.

Now leaving US which is pushing Pakistan to NOT recognize Taliban and that is why the delay...
US scapegoats and/or damages another country after loosing a war - always ... Pakistan delaying recognition is the right move and the diplomatic attack by blaming US for the blunders including the way it exited are good counters. Pakistan taking the lead in recognition would damage our counter narrative.

USA will do it's best to damage Pakistan, through FATF, IMF, possible sanctions and even drugging it's attack dog India to launch etc. China will assist Pakistan to cushion the US onslaught (financial and sanctions) but we will have to compromise on certain things with China in return (nothing is free) - let's see what those would be.
 

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US has now entered into the era of "Reassessments". :lol:
Reassessment seem to be the flavor of the season; France seems to be reassessing it’s relations with the US, which just sprung this deal with Australia as the French navy was set to commemorate the 240th anniversary of the French navy coming to save the US army from the British during the crucial battle of Yorktown revolutionary war. There is a French navy frigate in Baltimore harbor right now with the head of the French navy on board and they have just announced that they are cancelling the party and going home.

I saw the French navy (in their dress uniforms) in Time Square, earlier this week, taking in the sights. Guess this won’t be a trip they will forget. The Australian deal was suppose to give them jobs for the next 50 years of the program. A considerable loss for the French.
 
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I think it's high time Pakistan should tell to **** off, call our embassy staff back, close their embassy and massive intelligence-gathering center in Karachi. Enough with their bitching for the last two decades.

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  • US reassessment of relationship "surprising" as Pakistan played positive role in Afghan peace process: FO.
  • Pakistan not under pressure to recognise or not to recognise Taliban govt; Islamabad "does not come under pressure", FO says.
  • Pakistan played a critical role in helping the US degrade Al Qaeda’s core leadership in Afghanistan, it adds.
The United States announcing it will reassess its relationship with Pakistan is "surprising" as we have played a positive role in the Afghan peace process, Foreign Office Spokesperson Asim Iftikhar said Saturday.

The spokesperson, responding to a question at the weekly press briefing, said there is no pressure on Pakistan to recognise or not to recognise the Taliban government, and Islamabad does "not take any pressure".

"We will take independent decisions in line with our interests," the spokesperson clarified.

In response to the comments made by US lawmakers and Secretary of State Antony Blinken during recent Congressional hearings on Afghanistan, he said Pakistan has noted that they were "not in line with the close cooperation between Pakistan and the United States".


The spokesperson said the comments were "surprising" as Pakistan had played an imperative role in the recent evolving situation in Afghanistan.

"This was surprising as Pakistan’s positive role in the Afghan peace process, recent facilitation of the multinational evacuation effort from Afghanistan, and continued support for an inclusive political settlement in Afghanistan have been duly acknowledged, including most recently by the US State Department spokesperson," he said.

The spokesperson recalled that Pakistan had played a critical role in helping the US degrade Al Qaeda’s core leadership in Afghanistan, which was the international coalition’s core objective.

"At the same time, Pakistan had always maintained that there was no military solution to the larger Afghan conflict and that a political settlement offered the only plausible pathway to sustainable peace in Afghanistan — a position now shared by the United States," he said.

The spokesperson said that achieving an inclusive political settlement in Afghanistan that represents Afghanistan’s diversity and reflects the gains made by the country remains a shared objective for Pakistan and the United States.

"We look forward to building on this convergence while also strengthening other aspects of a broad-based and constructive relationship," the spokesperson added.

'Washington will reassess relationship with Pakistan'
On September 14, US Secretary of State Blinken had said that Washington will reassess its relationship with Pakistan in the coming days.

According to Reuters, the US had made it clear to Pakistan that it did not want Islamabad to recognise the Taliban government until it doesn't give women their due rights and allows Afghans who want to leave the country, to do so.

In the first public hearing in Congress about Afghanistan since last month's collapse of the US-backed Afghan government, US Secretary of State Blinken had told the House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee that Pakistan has a "multiplicity of interests, some that are in conflict with ours."

"It is one that involved hedging its bets constantly about the future of Afghanistan, it's one that's involved harboring members of the Taliban ... It is one that's also involved in different points cooperation with us on counterterrorism," Blinken had said.

Asked by lawmakers if it is time for Washington to reassess its relationship with Pakistan, Blinken had said the administration would soon be doing that.

 

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I think it's high time Pakistan should tell to **** off, call our embassy staff back, close their embassy and massive intelligence-gathering center in Karachi. Enough with their bitching for the last two decades.
Policy by temper tantrum is never a good idea for a nuclear State.
 

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It's the fucking bastards who have been throwing tantrums like a whore for the last 20 years. We just need to downgrade our relationship with them. Doesn't matter how long you wait, a pig will remain a pig. and pigs are haram.

Policy by temper tantrum is never a good idea for a nuclear State.
 

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It's the fucking bastards who have been throwing tantrums like a whore for the last 20 years. We just need to downgrade our relationship with them. Doesn't matter how long you wait, a pig will remain a pig. and pigs are haram.
I suppose those who were paid for their "services" can now go off and find another john. No problem. I hope PMIK takes your advice above.
 

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Last time I checked Americans were saving dogs and letting afghans die falling from C130 :coffee:
Not sure if being a friend is better or being an enemy

Yesterday , it was Pakistan helping negotiate a end to conflict
Then it was Pakistan again helping fly Americans out of Afghanistan

USA forgetting about Pakistan is old story now , we still have those bags of wheat for F16 story , stored in bunkers , as exhibits for future generation


ABSOLUTELY NOT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOT
 
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Reassessment seem to be the flavor of the season; France seems to be reassessing it’s relations with the US, which just sprung this deal with Australia as the French navy was set to commemorate the 240th anniversary of the French navy coming to save the US army from the British during the crucial battle of Yorktown revolutionary war. There is a French navy frigate in Baltimore harbor right now with the head of the French navy on board and they have just announced that they are cancelling the party and going home.
France maybe a B Grade Global Power like "Great" Britain is but France and Germany work together a lot--and they are still powerful countries: Both France and Germany are large economies and France is still a potent military force, relatively speaking of course. They can make the EU to shift away from 'The Anglo Saxons' a bit. And, indeed, after the way the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, many European countries are doubting the value of their alliance with America. Except they can't do much in short term.
BUT.. it remains to be seen if the French indignation about losing the submarines contract to Australia is real or only for public consumption--the French may have had prior knowledge.
 

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France maybe a B Grade Global Power like "Great" Britain is but France and Germany work together a lot--and they are still powerful countries: Both France and Germany are large economies and France is still a potent military force, relatively speaking of course. They can make the EU to shift away from 'The Anglo Saxons' a bit. And, indeed, after the way the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, many European countries are doubting the value of their alliance with America. Except they can't do much in short term.
BUT.. it remains to be seen if the French indignation about losing the submarines contract to Australia is real or only for public consumption--the French may have had prior knowledge.
That’s true $90 Billion Australian dollars over 50 years for a nation like France isn’t going to make or break them. It’s just a setback, that extra French government spending can fix.
 

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The Afghan Taliban are back in power in Afghanistan.
Pax Americana is over now.
Even Saudi Arabia will recognize the Afghan Taliban government.
 

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Wrote in a thread the other day that US will slap sanctions on Pakistan. They did this in 90s, they'll do it again. Pakistan was stupid enough to believe them and lost 80k+ people and $150b+ for nothing.
 

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