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As the first step, the report suggests setting up working groups between India, Pakistan, and the two Kashmirs to manage common interests and tackle common issues. — File photo


WASHINGTON: The Indian government’s insistence on Kashmir being a purely domestic issue is “a fiction maintained only by a large security presence”, says a report released by the US Institute of Peace.

The report by the Washington-based think tank, which is funded by the US Congress, argues that New Delhi’s claim will “be sorely tested by the disaffection that has intensified” among Kashmiris since Aug 5 last year when India illegally annexed the disputed territory.

“New Delhi will increasingly find it hard to manage its narrative about constitutional and political changes ushering in peace to Kashmir. Most indicators of violence in Kashmir have been on the rise since the August 2019 decision,” the report adds.

Arguing that “this untenable situation” will motivate all sides to come to the negotiating table, the report suggests a fresh look at a solution arrived at in 2004-07 by back-channel interlocutors appointed by president Pervez Musharraf and Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh.

The report claims that the four-point formula proposed by president Musharraf and fine-tuned during the subsequent back-channel negotiations, is the best available solution to the Kashmir conflict.

Claims formula proposed by Musharraf is the best available solution to the Kashmir issue

The report then reviews all four points to see if those are still applicable. Self-governance was the first point in this formula, which required both regional and territorial integrity, as was agreed in the Musharraf-Manmohan deal, and special status.

The report acknowledges that India’s Aug 5 decision has undone this option.

But the report claims that demilitarisation of Kashmir, the second main point of the 2004-07 deal, is still possible if both India and Pakistan agree to do so. This would require India to persuade Kashmiris not to take up arms against the Indian state and Pakistan “to curb militant activities along the Line of Control (LoC)”.

The report suggests starting with pilot programmes in some territorial pockets. If those prove successful, demilitarisation could be extended to other parts of Kashmir.

But the report warns that even if Pakistan were “to control militancy on its side, Kashmir might still suffer from attacks launched by indigenous militants”. And widespread disaffection in Kashmir “could play the role of a spoiler for long enough to wreck plans for demilitarisation”, the report adds.

The report also notes that before Aug 5, 2019, some steps were already taken to implement the third element of this formula — allowing the free movement of people and trade between India, Pakistan, and the two Kashmirs.

In February 2005, the two sides formally announced that a bus service would run between Srinagar and Muzaffarabad; the service began in April that year.

A second service, from Poonch to Rawalakot, started just over a year later, in June 2006. This dialogue process eventually led to the beginning, in October 2008, of trade across the LoC; duty-free barter trade for 21 items produced on either side of the divide was allowed.

The report notes that in August 2019 India announced the illegal annexation and now “any future talks based on that formula will be harder to begin”.

The fourth element of the Kashmir formula is the creation of mechanisms to oversee certain less sensitive sectors, such as the environment, on both sides of the LoC.

“Like progress toward the goal of making borders irrelevant, movement toward this objective is also possible if there is political will on both sides,” the report argues.

As the first step, the report suggests setting up working groups between India, Pakistan, and the two Kashmirs to manage common interests and tackle common issues such as trade, tourism, and river waters.

“The third and fourth points of the formula are interrelated; progress toward one would facilitate progress toward the other,” the report adds.

Although the four-point Kashmir formula is far from an ideal basis for resolving the Kashmir conflict, the report argues, “it is, nonetheless, the best available basis” for future talks.

Published in Dawn, August 9th, 2020

https://www.dawn.com/news/1573368/us-report-explores-options-for-pakistan-india-talks

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@waz something is not right .... Kashmir issue is heating up ..
 
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looks like US attempt to buy time for India while they manage talks with China..

i say we should start the limited war tomorrow..

this is time to up the escalation matrix.
 
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India has dug its own grave. Sooner or later the Kashmiris will react. Let's not forget that the lockdown is still in place. All it needs is a little spark. Peace talks are a far cry. War is imminent.
 

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Another carrot from Uncle Sam.
Americans lost any say in pak affairs recently thanks to the relatively younger military command which personally experienced American treachery on various fronts and a patriotic civilian set up. As for India they have to directly initiate terms of deescalation with Pak and China instead of this back door channel diplomacy involving the US to calm things down.
 

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Americans lost any say in pak affairs recently thanks to the relatively younger military command which personally experienced American treachery on various fronts and a patriotic civilian set up. As for India they have to directly initiate terms of deescalation with Pak and China instead of this back door channel diplomacy involving the US to calm things down.
The Americans are indeed trying to be relevant, but they are not relevant anymore. Clearly the Americans have chosen Indian side which is perfectly fine. It is their choice, but choices have consequences. The Americans want to make a comeback in Pakistan which is impossible. The Americans want to again have a good presence in Pakistan to destabilise our peace and progress with China. The Americans have been raging and railing ever since Pakistan decided to team up with China.
 
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As the first step, the report suggests setting up working groups between India, Pakistan, and the two Kashmirs to manage common interests and tackle common issues. — File photo


WASHINGTON: The Indian government’s insistence on Kashmir being a purely domestic issue is “a fiction maintained only by a large security presence”, says a report released by the US Institute of Peace.

The report by the Washington-based think tank, which is funded by the US Congress, argues that New Delhi’s claim will “be sorely tested by the disaffection that has intensified” among Kashmiris since Aug 5 last year when India illegally annexed the disputed territory.

“New Delhi will increasingly find it hard to manage its narrative about constitutional and political changes ushering in peace to Kashmir. Most indicators of violence in Kashmir have been on the rise since the August 2019 decision,” the report adds.

Arguing that “this untenable situation” will motivate all sides to come to the negotiating table, the report suggests a fresh look at a solution arrived at in 2004-07 by back-channel interlocutors appointed by president Pervez Musharraf and Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh.

The report claims that the four-point formula proposed by president Musharraf and fine-tuned during the subsequent back-channel negotiations, is the best available solution to the Kashmir conflict.

Claims formula proposed by Musharraf is the best available solution to the Kashmir issue

The report then reviews all four points to see if those are still applicable. Self-governance was the first point in this formula, which required both regional and territorial integrity, as was agreed in the Musharraf-Manmohan deal, and special status.

The report acknowledges that India’s Aug 5 decision has undone this option.

But the report claims that demilitarisation of Kashmir, the second main point of the 2004-07 deal, is still possible if both India and Pakistan agree to do so. This would require India to persuade Kashmiris not to take up arms against the Indian state and Pakistan “to curb militant activities along the Line of Control (LoC)”.

The report suggests starting with pilot programmes in some territorial pockets. If those prove successful, demilitarisation could be extended to other parts of Kashmir.

But the report warns that even if Pakistan were “to control militancy on its side, Kashmir might still suffer from attacks launched by indigenous militants”. And widespread disaffection in Kashmir “could play the role of a spoiler for long enough to wreck plans for demilitarisation”, the report adds.

The report also notes that before Aug 5, 2019, some steps were already taken to implement the third element of this formula — allowing the free movement of people and trade between India, Pakistan, and the two Kashmirs.

In February 2005, the two sides formally announced that a bus service would run between Srinagar and Muzaffarabad; the service began in April that year.

A second service, from Poonch to Rawalakot, started just over a year later, in June 2006. This dialogue process eventually led to the beginning, in October 2008, of trade across the LoC; duty-free barter trade for 21 items produced on either side of the divide was allowed.

The report notes that in August 2019 India announced the illegal annexation and now “any future talks based on that formula will be harder to begin”.

The fourth element of the Kashmir formula is the creation of mechanisms to oversee certain less sensitive sectors, such as the environment, on both sides of the LoC.

“Like progress toward the goal of making borders irrelevant, movement toward this objective is also possible if there is political will on both sides,” the report argues.

As the first step, the report suggests setting up working groups between India, Pakistan, and the two Kashmirs to manage common interests and tackle common issues such as trade, tourism, and river waters.

“The third and fourth points of the formula are interrelated; progress toward one would facilitate progress toward the other,” the report adds.

Although the four-point Kashmir formula is far from an ideal basis for resolving the Kashmir conflict, the report argues, “it is, nonetheless, the best available basis” for future talks.

Published in Dawn, August 9th, 2020

https://www.dawn.com/news/1573368/us-report-explores-options-for-pakistan-india-talks
In current situation it is trap for Pakistan as they have realized that they are losing leverage over Pakistan rapidly and even Arabs will not be able to have leverage like before if current situation prevails. Pakistan should avoid these type of options now as it will be only beneficial to US, India and it's allies, remember what they did with Palestine after they make deal with Israel and Palestine.
 

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In current situation it is trap for Pakistan as they have realized that they are losing leverage over Pakistan rapidly and even Arabs will not be able to have leverage like before if current situation prevails. Pakistan should avoid these type of options now as it will be only beneficial to US, India and it's allies, remember what they did with Palestine after they make deal with Israel and Palestine.
Absolutely correct. The Americans are also very shocked at how Pakistan and KSA relations have fallen apart. Remember that KSA used to be a country that the Americans used to aproach to relay messages to Pakistan. That channel seems to be taken out of the equation now. The Americans are desperate to take Pakistan out of China camp.
 

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yaa US Report written by this Indian libtard leftists reporter:


Happymon Jacob is an associate professor of diplomacy and disarmament at the Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi. He is a columnist with The Hindu, hosts a weekly show on national security at The Wire.in, and is the author of The Line of Control: Travelling with the Indian and Pakistani Armies (2018) and Line on Fire: Ceasefire Violations and India-Pakistan Escalation Dynamics (2019).

Nobody in India gives a **** abt these leftists
 

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Another truck ki bati.

"Liberal" media of Pakistan in another effort for a push to give "India" and diplomacy another chance.
What for. So this time India can declare even Baluchistan under their map!!
Or repels the rights of Indian Muslims under their constitution!!
 

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Absolutely correct. The Americans are also very shocked at how Pakistan and KSA relations have fallen apart. Remember that KSA used to be a country that the Americans used to aproach to relay messages to Pakistan. That channel seems to be taken out of the equation now. The Americans are desperate to take Pakistan out of China camp.
US have used Arab countries to influence Pakistan when they were not in position to do so directly, people of Pakistan have to understand that house of Saud is not real rulers of KSA nor well wishers of Islam, and how they were allowed to change the name of country on their name, if name changed was required then they should have named it after the Prophet Muhammad SAWW, till now no one have raised that question.
 

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Useless. Someone trash the plan.

It will be put in a trash bin coz India is in no position to dictate anything even to its defacto protectorate like Bhutan and after the revocation of special status for kashmir Chinese have been dragged in vis a vis their border dispute with India as India tried to officially annex their territory too so unlike past pak cannot unilaterally defuse tensions without the consent of our ally China
 

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The Americans are indeed trying to be relevant, but they are not relevant anymore. Clearly the Americans have chosen Indian side which is perfectly fine. It is their choice, but choices have consequences. The Americans want to make a comeback in Pakistan which is impossible. The Americans want to again have a good presence in Pakistan to destabilise our peace and progress with China. The Americans have been raging and railing ever since Pakistan decided to team up with China.
Alliance with China and keeping India at bay is a matter of life and death for the state of Pakistan so unless India restorsthe special status Noone can save this artifical union from getting rounded up for the greater good of Asia not even the Saudis can be used to arm twist us into giving indya a safe exit
 

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No no no the USA for ages has wanted Pakistan to both befriend India and accept India as a regional power to counter China

The USA sees trade and peace talks as a route to that

The U.S dosent completely want to end Pakistan as a counter to India (it dosent want to make the same mistake it did with China where it let it become too powerful) but it wants Pakistan to ease up on India so India can concentrate on China

China knows this and it knows a well armed Pakistan in a strategically placed position is massively in its national interests, hence China is ensuring Pakistan is armed and as recently shown that Indian machinations on GB or Kashmir were countered by Chinese intrusion into LAC

What the US must understand is that we hate the Indians more then anyone
 

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