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US Ready To Attend Talks With Taliban

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  1. BHarwana

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    A White House official says a political settlement must be negotiated through an Afghan-lead and Afghan-owned process.

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    Following the announcement of a temporarily ceasefire by Afghan government with the Taliban, the United States on Thursday said it is ready to participate in talks with the Taliban.

    Deputy Assistant to US President Donald Trump and Senior Director for Central Asia at the National Security Council, Lisa Curtis, said US cannot act on behalf of Afghan officials in the peace talks with the Taliban, but they want to participate in the talks.

    “The United States is ready to participate in the discussion, but we cannot serve as a substitute for the Afghan government and the Afghan people. A political settlement must be negotiated through a process that is Afghan-lead and Afghan-owned,” said Curtis.

    She said paying attention to Pakistan’s worries in the Afghan peace process is crucial.

    “The fact is that the Afghan Taliban, including the Haqqnai network, has enjoyed sanctuary in Pakistan throughout the past 16 years of conflict. We have asked for Pakistan’s assistance and facilitating a peace process and we have sought understand Pakistan’s own core security concerns and ensure that its interests are taken into account in any peace process,” Curtis added.

    Steve Brooking, Director of Peace and Reconciliation at the United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA), said the Afghan war does not have a military solution and that it should be resolved through politics.

    “Even the Taliban political commission say that there could be no military solution, there has to be a political solution. Unfortunately, there are many people who still don’t fully subscribe,” he added.

    Barnett Rubin, an American analyst, however said Pakistan, Russia, China and Iran are not letting peace and stability to come to Afghanistan.

    “The Taliban are under a very weak pressure to come to some kind of agreement, because they have diplomatic relations with Russia, with Iran of course, with Pakistan and more than diplomatic with China and so on,” Rubin said.

    President Ashraf Ghani on Thursday announced a ceasefire with the Taliban following a meeting of Afghanistan Ulema that issued a fatwa against the ongoing war and violence in the country.

    The ceasefire announcement was warmly welcomed by major allies of Afghanistan, but Taliban spokesman has said the leaders of the group are discussing on the issue.



    https://www.tolonews.com/afghanistan/us-ready-attend-talks-taliban
     
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    @Path-Finder

    LOL, What about Pakistan do more now? Hahahahaah Yankeez
     
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    No its not, This is merely the old strategy being reapplied again. They will invite the taliban for talks and them try to assassinate the top tier leadership. They tried it before but it didn't work and highly doubt it will now.

    Pakistan MUST start wading into afghanistan. you have NO other choice.

    Nothing works in that f~%*$ country.
     
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    What happened to do more?
     
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    I don't think this time it is about assassination the water are too deep for it. Currently no one even knows who is the leader of Taliban. I think USA is really breaking ground but will agree with that there is no point in trusting Uncle sam they are not what they say.
     
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    No its just hogwash. Its lost in denial and 17 years perpetual war that has no end in sight. they thought they can stay in afghanistan and use afghani against afghani because of the nations ethnic and religious fault line are extremely easy to exploit.

    But when those minorities empowered by the ecstasy of money begin to jump ship against you. You don't want to enter that arena either because you don't want to die there!

    Robotics are not yet perfected either and the hostile neighbours for whom you were supposedly there to rile up trouble are eyeballing you.

    Then coming down from your pedestal is a must.
     
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    I thought the U.S. didn't negotiate with terrorist? LOL these yanks have no credibility left. They fully deserve any a$$ whooping the Taliban give these hypocrites (U.S.). :omghaha:
     
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    Do US have any credibility that stakeholders will want them sitting on negotiation table?
     
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    You literally provide life support for the Afghan Govt to continue to work even for a day. You also decides how the govt will run the country. With so many innocents martyred by airstrikes, I do not think the Afghan people sees US in good light. At least those who suffer by them(not the Kabul residents which are isolated from them).
    Nevertheless, I think Afghan Taliban will accept the ceasefire but will not come over to sit on the negotiating table. The US is currently at a disadvantage and will need to do more to satisfy all involved parties.
     
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    Why will Taliban accept ceasefire now when they are gaining on the ground? Perhaps now they might be getting certain level of support from Russia,more significantly Talibans now have many factions among them, So US might be trying to ignite that dispute to curtail the rise in insurgency, I don't find any desire of reconciliation behind this initiative.
     
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    http://www.reuters.tv/v/LA$/2018/06/07/afghanistan-announces-ceasefire-with-taliban

    I guess I was somewhat correct. The foreign forces are exempted from the ceasefire.
     
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    My previous post was about intent behind these talks and the effectiveness of ceasefire if announced, Again the declared ceasefire have more to do with Eid instead of negotiation, and despite of declaration of ceasefire the attacks are still happening. It again reflects the division among talibans and their control on them, These talks have some other motive then just reconciliation.
     
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    Actually, Militants carry attack on Eid but this time they won't. The ceasefire is yet to start. The government will start from 12 June while the Taliban a couple of days later.
    I have never stated the ceasefire is due to reconciliation effort but there is a chance that the Taliban will hold internal meetings and weigh in talking. Nevertheless, be prepared for attack on Foreign forces during the holidays.

    Still, It is to early to speculate.