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Thank goodness, unlike the last debate, this time around, Trump behaved himself, but he lied like hell. In my opinion, neither Biden nor Trump landed any major blows against each other. And that was bad for Trump, since he is the underdog, he desperately needed far better outcome.

The bottom line is that the debate changed nothing.


Poll: Majority of viewers say Biden won final debate
Debate watchers surveyed in a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll said, by a 15-point margin, Biden performed better than Trump.

By EVAN SEMONES 10/23/2020 07:35 PM

Joe Biden outperformed President Donald Trump in Thursday’s final presidential debate, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult flash poll released Friday.

The survey found that 54 percent of debate watchers believed Biden won the matchup, while 39 percent said Trump did. Only 8 percent of those who watched said they didn’t know or had no opinion.


Despite most national polls indicating that voters have decided whom they’re supporting in this year’s election, nearly two-thirds of voters tuned in for Thursday’s debate at Belmont University in Nashville, Tenn., while 37 percent did not.

The Commission on Presidential Debates’ unprecedented decision to mute each candidate’s microphone when the other was speaking appeared to pay off with viewers after last month's noxious first debate of constant interruptions that many criticized as an unpleasant viewing experience. Read more
 

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Thank goodness, unlike the last debate, this time around, Trump behaved himself, but he lied like hell. In my opinion, neither Biden nor Trump landed any major blows against each other. And that was bad for Trump, since he is the underdog, he desperately needed far better outcome.

The bottom line is that the debate changed nothing.


Poll: Majority of viewers say Biden won final debate
Debate watchers surveyed in a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll said, by a 15-point margin, Biden performed better than Trump.

By EVAN SEMONES 10/23/2020 07:35 PM

Joe Biden outperformed President Donald Trump in Thursday’s final presidential debate, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult flash poll released Friday.

The survey found that 54 percent of debate watchers believed Biden won the matchup, while 39 percent said Trump did. Only 8 percent of those who watched said they didn’t know or had no opinion.


Despite most national polls indicating that voters have decided whom they’re supporting in this year’s election, nearly two-thirds of voters tuned in for Thursday’s debate at Belmont University in Nashville, Tenn., while 37 percent did not.

The Commission on Presidential Debates’ unprecedented decision to mute each candidate’s microphone when the other was speaking appeared to pay off with viewers after last month's noxious first debate of constant interruptions that many criticized as an unpleasant viewing experience. Read more
Trump was terrible, he could have easily landed massive blows against Biden vis-à-vis illegal immigration but he didn't. Trump was a conman from day one anyway, all of his children are married to Jews.
 

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Eight days to go and Biden is still going strong, on the other hand, Hillary was losing momentum.

National Polls: Trump vs. Biden- 8 Days To Election: Biden +8.3
RCP POLL AVERAGE 2020

National Polls: Trump vs. Clinton- 8 Days To Election: Clinton +2.9
RCP POLL AVERAGE 2016

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Just damn wow, that is clearly a fascist agenda. What do you guys think? @cloud4000 @Gomig-21



Scoop: Trump's post-election execution list
https://www.axios.com/authors/newsdesk/
Jonathan Swan, Alayna Treene

If President Trump wins re-election, he'll move to immediately fire FBI Director Christopher Wray and also expects to replace CIA Director Gina Haspel and Defense Secretary Mark Esper, two people who've discussed these officials' fates with the president tell Axios.

The big picture: The list of planned replacements is much longer, but these are Trump's priorities, starting with Wray.


  • Wray and Haspel are despised and distrusted almost universally in Trump's inner circle. He would have fired both already, one official said, if not for the political headaches of acting before Nov. 3.
Why it matters: A win, no matter the margin, will embolden Trump to ax anyone he sees as constraining him from enacting desired policies or going after perceived enemies.
  • Trump last week signed an executive order that set off alarm bells as a means to politicize the civil service. An administration official said the order "is a really big deal" that would make it easier for presidents to get rid of career government officials.
  • There could be shake-ups across other departments. The president has never been impressed with Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, for example. But that doesn't carry the urgency of replacing Wray or Haspel.
  • The nature of top intelligence and law enforcement posts has traditionally carried an expectation for a higher degree of independence and separation from politics.
Be smart: While Trump has also privately vented about Attorney General Bill Barr, he hasn't made any formal plans to replace him, an official said.
  • Trump is furious that Barr isn't releasing before the election what Trump hoped would be a bombshell report by U.S. Attorney John Durham on the Obama administration's handling of the Trump-Russia investigation.
  • Durham's investigation has yet to produce any high-profile indictments of Obama-era officials as Trump had hoped.
  • "The attorney general wants to finish the work that he's been involved in since day one," a senior administration official told Axios.
Behind the scenes: "The view of Haspel in the West Wing is that she still sees her job as manipulating people and outcomes, the way she must have when she was working assets in the field," one source with direct knowledge of the internal conversations told Axios. "It's bred a lot of suspicion of her motives."
  • Trump is also increasingly frustrated with Haspel for opposing the declassification of documents that would help the Justice Department's Durham report.
  • A source familiar with conversations at the CIA says, "Since the beginning of DNI's push to declassify documents, and how strongly she feels about protecting sources connected to those materials, there have been rumblings around the agency that the director plans to depart the CIA regardless of who wins the election.”
As for Wray, whose expected firing was first reported by The Daily Beast, Trump is angry his second FBI chief didn't launch a formal investigation into Hunter Biden's foreign business connections — and didn't purge more officials Trump believes abused power to investigate his 2016 campaign's ties to Russia.
  • Trump also grew incensed when Wray testified in September that the FBI has not seen widespread election fraud, including with mail-in ballots.
  • A senior FBI official tells Axios: "Major law enforcement associations representing current and former FBI agents as well as police and sheriff's departments across the country have consistently expressed their full support of Director Wray's leadership of the Bureau."
Trump soured on Esper over the summer when the Defense secretary rebuffed the idea of sending active-duty military into the streets to deal with racial justice protests and distanced himself from the clearing of Lafayette Square for a photo op at St. John's church.
  • Trump indicated to Axios then that he "really wasn't focused on" firing Esper. One senior official cautioned that others who want the Pentagon job could be driving speculation to undercut Esper. But one source, who discussed options with Trump, told Axios he urged the president to wait until post-election to replace him.
  • Chief Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said in a statement that Esper "has always been and remains committed to doing what is best for the military and the Nation.”
Trump 2.0 would bring more loyalty tests
Chris Liddell, Trump's deputy chief of staff
for policy coordination, is heading the White House’s transition effort, including vetting potential new Cabinet officials, two White House officials told Axios.
Don't forget: The transition between first and second terms is traditionally a time when presidents who win re-election accept resignations and switch out their teams.
  • Former chiefs of staff to Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, speaking on David Marchick's "Transition Lab" podcast, said their administrations didn't prepare enough for a "robust transition" between terms.
  • Bush's former chief Josh Bolten said he'd advise Trump to "rethink all of your personnel and know what your priorities are."
White House spokesman Judd Deere told Axios: "We have no personnel announcements at this time nor would it be appropriate to speculate about changes after the election or in a 2nd term." Source
 

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Just damn wow, that is clearly a fascist agenda. What do you guys think? @cloud4000 @Gomig-21



Scoop: Trump's post-election execution list
https://www.axios.com/authors/newsdesk/
Jonathan Swan, Alayna Treene

If President Trump wins re-election, he'll move to immediately fire FBI Director Christopher Wray and also expects to replace CIA Director Gina Haspel and Defense Secretary Mark Esper, two people who've discussed these officials' fates with the president tell Axios.

The big picture: The list of planned replacements is much longer, but these are Trump's priorities, starting with Wray.


  • Wray and Haspel are despised and distrusted almost universally in Trump's inner circle. He would have fired both already, one official said, if not for the political headaches of acting before Nov. 3.
Why it matters: A win, no matter the margin, will embolden Trump to ax anyone he sees as constraining him from enacting desired policies or going after perceived enemies.
  • Trump last week signed an executive order that set off alarm bells as a means to politicize the civil service. An administration official said the order "is a really big deal" that would make it easier for presidents to get rid of career government officials.
  • There could be shake-ups across other departments. The president has never been impressed with Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, for example. But that doesn't carry the urgency of replacing Wray or Haspel.
  • The nature of top intelligence and law enforcement posts has traditionally carried an expectation for a higher degree of independence and separation from politics.
Be smart: While Trump has also privately vented about Attorney General Bill Barr, he hasn't made any formal plans to replace him, an official said.
  • Trump is furious that Barr isn't releasing before the election what Trump hoped would be a bombshell report by U.S. Attorney John Durham on the Obama administration's handling of the Trump-Russia investigation.
  • Durham's investigation has yet to produce any high-profile indictments of Obama-era officials as Trump had hoped.
  • "The attorney general wants to finish the work that he's been involved in since day one," a senior administration official told Axios.
Behind the scenes: "The view of Haspel in the West Wing is that she still sees her job as manipulating people and outcomes, the way she must have when she was working assets in the field," one source with direct knowledge of the internal conversations told Axios. "It's bred a lot of suspicion of her motives."
  • Trump is also increasingly frustrated with Haspel for opposing the declassification of documents that would help the Justice Department's Durham report.
  • A source familiar with conversations at the CIA says, "Since the beginning of DNI's push to declassify documents, and how strongly she feels about protecting sources connected to those materials, there have been rumblings around the agency that the director plans to depart the CIA regardless of who wins the election.”
As for Wray, whose expected firing was first reported by The Daily Beast, Trump is angry his second FBI chief didn't launch a formal investigation into Hunter Biden's foreign business connections — and didn't purge more officials Trump believes abused power to investigate his 2016 campaign's ties to Russia.
  • Trump also grew incensed when Wray testified in September that the FBI has not seen widespread election fraud, including with mail-in ballots.
  • A senior FBI official tells Axios: "Major law enforcement associations representing current and former FBI agents as well as police and sheriff's departments across the country have consistently expressed their full support of Director Wray's leadership of the Bureau."
Trump soured on Esper over the summer when the Defense secretary rebuffed the idea of sending active-duty military into the streets to deal with racial justice protests and distanced himself from the clearing of Lafayette Square for a photo op at St. John's church.
  • Trump indicated to Axios then that he "really wasn't focused on" firing Esper. One senior official cautioned that others who want the Pentagon job could be driving speculation to undercut Esper. But one source, who discussed options with Trump, told Axios he urged the president to wait until post-election to replace him.
  • Chief Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said in a statement that Esper "has always been and remains committed to doing what is best for the military and the Nation.”
Trump 2.0 would bring more loyalty tests
Chris Liddell, Trump's deputy chief of staff
for policy coordination, is heading the White House’s transition effort, including vetting potential new Cabinet officials, two White House officials told Axios.
Don't forget: The transition between first and second terms is traditionally a time when presidents who win re-election accept resignations and switch out their teams.
  • Former chiefs of staff to Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, speaking on David Marchick's "Transition Lab" podcast, said their administrations didn't prepare enough for a "robust transition" between terms.
  • Bush's former chief Josh Bolten said he'd advise Trump to "rethink all of your personnel and know what your priorities are."
White House spokesman Judd Deere told Axios: "We have no personnel announcements at this time nor would it be appropriate to speculate about changes after the election or in a 2nd term." Source
No surprise that turnover is high at the White House. So much so that they should add a physical revolving door to the place!

Seriously, Trump is someone who likes to surround himself with yes men, lackeys, and sycophants. He doesn't want to hear the truth...he wants to hear his version of the truth, which is often both wrong and/or fantasy.
 

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Just damn wow, that is clearly a fascist agenda. What do you guys think? @cloud4000 @Gomig-21
Not surprised at all. I almost fell out of my chair the other day when they showed the live phone call he was having with the prime minister of Sudan and Israel and he asks Netanyahu if he thought "sleepy Joe could've done this deal" and he honestly expected "loyalty" from Netanyahu like as if he would trash Joe Biden just to please this donkey lol!? So Netanyahu, after a very long and uncomfortable pause says "uuuh.....well.....Mr. President we are so grateful that we would accept this from aaannyyyone in the United States" LOL! Of course he wouldn't diss Joe Biden and to think this idiot actually thought he would do that when there's a strong chance he might get elected and even without that, other leaders just don't trash and insult other leaders and this guys just doesn't seem to get it and thought he would get unconditional loyalty even from Netanyahu after giving him Jerusalem and all sorts of stuff. That's what he expects and you can tell he was pissed off at that answer looool I was loving it.
 

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Meet Georgia’s 14th Congressional District winner, Marjorie Taylor Greene (70% district’s residents voted for Trump in 2016), just like Trump she has played on racist tropes. During the runoff she was supported by many anti-government, Islamophobic and anti-Semitic racists. She is also a member of conspiracy ridden anti-minority QAnon movement.

This is how Trump welcomed her:



In recordings obtained by POLITICO, Greene described Islamic nations under Sharia law as places where men have sex with "little boys, little girls, multiple women" and "marry their sisters" and "their cousins." She suggested the 2018 midterms — which ushered in the most diverse class of House freshmen — was part of “an Islamic invasion of our government” and that “anyone that is a Muslim that believes in Sharia law does not belong in our government.”

"You stay there, and you go to Mecca and do all your thing. And, you know what, you can have a whole bunch of wives, or goats, or sheep, or whatever you want. You stay over there. But in America, see, we’ve made it this great, great country. We don’t want it messed up."

She also spends several minutes attacking Imtiaz Ahmad Mohammad, a candidate for the Florida state House, because he is Muslim and an immigrant.

"So let me tell you something. This man is not born in America. He’s from Pakistan. OK?," she said, warning he was the only candidate who had filed for the seat, and that “his last name is Mohammad.”

She then attempted to recruit a challenger: "Anyone that lives in that district, you better sign your butt up and run against this guy,” she said. “Because we cannot let him win."

Note: If interested, you guys can watch her video clip. Source
 

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Hunter Biden: **** Star and Traitor

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National Pulse obtained a recording file that exclusively exposed the latest news of Hunter Biden’s “Mail Gate”. In the recording, you can hear that Hunter is deeply involved with a business controlled by a Chinese Communist Party spy. Here is a summary of the recording:


  1. Hunter Biden’s business partner Devon Archer listed Hunter and his father as witnesses in criminal cases in the Federal Court of the Southern District of New York.
  2. Hunter Biden is asked by the New York Times about his relationship with Patrick He (何志平), who is the “Chinese Communist Party spy chief”.
  3. Hunter Biden’s business partner, Ye Jianming, the boss of CEFC China Energy, has seemingly vanished.
  4. According to the New York Post, Patrick He (何志平) also participated in the investment project of China Huaxin, but this news was suppressed by the media and big technology companies.

Here is what Hunter Biden said in the recording:


“I get calls from my father to tell me that the New York Times is calling about my old partner Eric, who literally has done me harm, for I don’t know how long, is the one taking the calls because my father will not stop sending the calls to Eric. I have another New York Times reporter calling about my representation of Patrick He – the fucking spy chief of China, who started the company that my partner who is worth 323 billion dollars, founded and is now missing. The richest man in the world is missing, who was my partner. He was missing since I last saw him in his 58 million dollar apartment, and signed a 4 billion dollar deal to build the fucking largest fucking LNG port in the world. And I am receiving calls from the Southern District of New York from the US Attorney himself. My best friend in business, Devon, has named me as a witness without telling me, in a criminal case, and my father, without telling me. ”


Comments: This recording of Hunter Biden directly confirmed several things…


(1) Hunter clearly knows that Patrick He (何志平) is the spy leader of the Chinese Communist Party and still chose to foster business relations with him.


(2) He and his former vice president father were dragged into a criminal case by his best business partner, Devon Archer.


(3) No matter how Joe Biden defended the business activities carried out by his son, the truth that he is the mastermind behind the curtain is becoming more evident. Let’s wait for more evidence to fully expose his crimes.


(4) More American people and the whole world will see the extremely corrupt and ugly face of the Biden family that has been collaborating with the Chinese Communist Party.


The recording link:


https://rumble.com/vautmt-exc-hunter-biden-audio-on-chinese-spies-and-joe.html


https://gnews.org/ <- All the dirt on sleazebag Hunter Biden can be found here, including the sekx tapes, be careful, NSFW !!

One of them clearly looks underage, Hunter can be seen taking a wank on web chat + lots more ahahahahahahhahahahhahah !!

Q is right after all, a shady cabal of pedophiles in the democrat party + hollywood (Kevin Spacey, Epstein etc)

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lol hilarious, too bad the left cant meme

 
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The Disappearing America: Progressives Want a Revolution, Not Just Change

Philip Girald
October 29, 2020

In any given news cycle it is sometimes the lesser articles that are more illuminating in terms of where everything in a country as vast as the United States is heading. This is particularly true in terms of what the U.S. has been experiencing in 2020: a pandemic, civil unrest, wars and continued turmoil overseas plus an election that promises to result in one of two radically different visions of what America should be.
Ironically, Joe Biden is being depicted as the establishment candidate but the Democratic Party program is actually far more radical than that of the Republicans. The Democrats are locked into support of policies that are ostensibly meant to address racial disparities and gender related issue but will instead increasingly turn government into an intrusive mechanism for social engineering, abandoning America’s traditional meritocracy while also creating categories that some might describe as fostering reverse racism and sexism. There could be devastating impact on American education, on maintaining law and order, on controlling immigration, on setting hiring quotas and on First and Fourth Amendment rights relating to free speech and association. A glorious multicultural and gender bending future shaped by Democratic Party social justice hacks will be nothing but a disaster for most Americans, effectively disenfranchising many citizens based on the color of their skin or for other attributes yet to be determined.
And the widespread support for Biden by neoconservatives, who would return to power with his administration, would mean that the likes of Bill Kristol, Max Boot, and Jennifer Rubin will be driving a pro-Israel anti-Iran policy that might even outdo what Trump and Mike Pompeo have contrived, which now will include labeling international human rights agencies as anti-Semitic. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee would be headed by Robert Menendez, corrupt even by congressional standards, who is a totally owned shill for the Israel Lobby. Dan Shapiro, who has apparently become Biden’s leading adviser on the Middle East, is an American Jew now living in Israel and working for an Israeli think tank who should be registered as a Foreign Agent.
The neocons and their media allies are also architects of much of the anti-Russian sentiment in Congress, making the current bad relationship measurably worse. As the Democrats have been blaming practically everything on Russian President Vladimir Putin one cannot expect any serious effort to reset the relationship.
Trump for his part brings with him the negative baggage of his abrasive persona as well as his apparent inability to assimilate and apply simple facts relating to how the nation and the rest of the world work. He has been the aggressor directly against Syria and Iran as well as Venezuela and has been using NATO to threaten Russia. His attitudes towards the environment and climate change are also a disgrace but whatever you think of Trump’s actual performance, the fact is that throughout the campaign and since taking office most of the media and the entire “progressive” left has been labeling him a fascist and a racist. And hanging the racist tail on Trump has continued in the current campaign, to include the lines of questioning in the recent presidential debates and the town hall hosted by Savannah Guthrie.
Trump might make America worse in some ways, but he will not substantially change it as the Democrats almost certainly will do either willfully or by not paying attention to what is developing. Several stories circulating on social media demonstrate just how much “equal justice under law” has been eroded in the minds of some Democratic Party luminaries. Former Clinton Labor Secretary Robert Reich tweeted a demand to create a “Truth and Reconciliation Commission” after the expected defeat of Donald Trump. The commission borrows the name and would be modeled on the organization set up in South Africa after the fall of the apartheid government and the establishment of majority black rule, an exercise in attempted democratization that has nevertheless failed to put an end to extremely high levels of corruption and communal violence in the country.
Reich’s objective is not limited to punishing the Trump White House’s top officials who may have promoted policies considered anathema by the incoming Democratic administration. Reich tweeted “When this nightmare is over, we need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission. It would erase Trump’s lies, comfort those who have been harmed by his hatefulness, and name every official, politician, executive, and media mogul whose greed and cowardice enabled this catastrophe.” The Reich proposal would potentially mean punishing thousands of otherwise innocent individuals who had little influence over what happened during the past four years. “Enabled” covers a lot of ground, and is prone to devolve into something like a witch hunt. “McCarthyism” only much worse comes immediately to mind.
Reich followed up on his proposal with a second tweet saying “I love the people responding to this tweet as if it’s a radical, undemocratic idea” and, to be sure, there are a lot of people out there who think like he does. One Reich supporter wrote in defense of the proposal “As long as unresolved historic injustices continue to fester in the world, there will be a demand for truth commissions” and there have been numerous comments on social media sites like Facebook insisting that “something be done” about the “deplorables” who voted for and supported Trump.
Other comments made on Twitter in response to the Reich demand include “It is the right idea and I fully support it. It is not right for people to do so much damage to people and get away Scott free. The GOP is Complicit in Genicide and Senicide. There need to be repercussions.” And “I agree 100%… my fear is Joe Biden is going to come into office and want to heal the nation and work with the GOP and ignore all this… if he does that, I will work to ensure he is a 1 term president too.” And also “But it doesn’t go far enough, clearly. Trump’s assets and those of his voters should be seized by the state through legislation and distributed to those he’s harmed as reparations. Surely that’s the only way to heal our nation. Land of the free!” And finally “Robert… you’re right. And after we win… we’ll come for you all… we’re pretty much over trying to share a country with you anyway. Four years ago I thought you were people with bad ideas. I was wrong: YOU’RE BAD PEOPLE.”
Another good Democrats-are-in-power story comes from Virginia where Governor Ralph Northam is preparing to sign a bill that will prevent policemen from stopping cars with expired registrations or inspection stickers, no headlights, brake lights, or other moving violations relating to safety. The reasoning behind the bill is that black drivers appear to be stopped for such offenses disproportionately. That may be true, but the assumption by Northam and his crew is that blacks are being targeted by police, whereas the actual cause just might be that a disproportionate number of blacks don’t maintain their cars very well. Some black public officials including Arlington’s so-called Public Defender Brad Haywood loves the idea, saying: “This might be the most significant reform of the state’s criminal justice system in decades. This is a big step forward for racial justice in Virginia.”
While some of the offenses might be regarded as relatively painless, allowing cars to drive without brake lights in a state like Virginia where drivers routinely proceed at over 70 miles an hour on highways could prove catastrophic if someone had to stop quickly with the cars behind not knowing it until too late. The safety of all citizens is clearly being sacrificed to render what is perceived as social justice for a minority, but when Democrats are in a full pander mode anything is possible.
And a third and final story, also from Virginia, is about the impending death of the once formidable American public education system. It concerns the destruction of what is regarded as the best high school in the United States because it is not diverse enough. The Fairfax County school board has ruled that the high admission standards at Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology, a prestigious magnet school, are now to be eliminated after approval of a proposal submitted by Superintendent Scott Brabrand. The decision by the board eliminates the test and the $100 application fee, long requirements of the rigorous admissions process at Thomas Jefferson. Brabrand’s proposal also increases the size of the school, known as TJ. The changes have been implemented and this year’s eighth-graders — many of whom have prepared for the test — will not take the multi-part exam covering math, reading and science.
Details of how the new admissions policy will work have not been finalized, but a lottery is being considered. One mother protested that a lottery “trashes the meaning of hard work.” TJ’s student body is currently more than 70 percent Asian and about 20 percent white, with single-digit percentages of black and Hispanic students. The intention is to have the school more closely resemble the demographics of Fairfax County’s schools, which is 10 per cent black, 27 per cent Hispanic and 38 per cent white. It will be accomplished by fiat policies and quotas. Though whites are actually under-represented in the school nothing will be done to increase their presence.
Other select by-examination-only schools in New York City, Boston, Chicago and on the West Coast are similarly being stripped of their exclusivity and will instead be embracing diversity. The San Diego school district is completely eliminating testing grades so more minorities can graduate. And the students will no longer be downgraded for exhibiting behavior problems or truancy.
The Beatles once sang “You say you want a revolution!” It seems that many so-called progressives, minority spokespersons and assorted radicals want one here in America. Truth commissions, laws that only apply based on race and quotas in schools are only the beginning. Joe and Kamala, if they are elected, will no doubt encourage all that and more. As there are many “deplorable” Americans who want to preserve what the United States once was, the Democrats might well regret the path that they have chosen even if they do win the election.

 

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