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US-Pakistan F-16 Deal: Indian EAM Jaishankar Throws a Tantrum

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“You’re not fooling anybody by saying these things," said Indian External Affairs Minister Subramanian Jaishankar to his American hosts in Washington. He was lashing out at the United States for the State Department's explanation for the $450 million F-16 "sustainment" package sale to Pakistan. Earlier, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) said in an announcement:

“This proposed sale ($450 million F-16 package) will support the foreign policy and national security objectives of the United States by allowing Pakistan to retain interoperability with US and partner forces in ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and in preparation for future contingency operations.” The US State Department spokesman Ned Price talked about "shared values" and "shared interests" of his country with both India and Pakistan. He also recommended that "these two neighbors have relations with one another that are as constructive as can be possible".

US Secretary of State Tony Blinken (L), Indian External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar

Responding to Jaishankar's outburst, the US State Department spokesman Ned Price said, “We don’t view our relationship with Pakistan, and … our relationship with India as in relation to one another. These are both partners of ours with different points of emphasis in each. We look at both as partners, because we do have in many cases shared values. We do have in many cases shared interests. And the relationship we have with India stands on its own. The relationship we have with Pakistan stands on its own. We also want to do everything we can to see to it that these neighbors have relations with one another that are as constructive as can be possible. And so that’s another point of emphasis.”

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi recently attended a summit meeting of the China-Russia sponsored Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) held in Samarkand, Uzbekistan. India is a full member of this alliance which has been created to counter the US dominance in Asia. At the same time, New Delhi has also joined QUAD, a group of 4 nations (Australia, India, Japan and US) formed by the United States to counter China's rise. Simultaneous membership of these two competing alliances is raising serious questions about Prime Minister Narendra Modi's real intentions and trustworthiness. It appears that there is an Indian policy shift from "non-alignment" to "all-alignment".

Writing an Op Ed for The Indian Express about Jaishankar's fit of anger, Indian journalist Nirupama Subramanian put it in the following words: “As Delhi demonstrates “strategic autonomy” to engage with every side — Quad one week, and Russia and China the next at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in Samarkand — and work around Western sanctions to buy oil from Russia, and keep friends in all camps, it may have to come to terms that others in world play the same game.”

US Visa Appointment Wait Time. Source: US State Department

Jaishankar also raised the issue of long appointment wait times for Indians seeking visas to come to the United States. "In India, there are families unable to meet; students waiting for a long time. So it is a serious problem. But, I'm confident that, with the sincerity Secretary Blinken showed, they would address this, and with any support that we can provide, we hope things will improve," he said. Secretary Anthony Blinken said in response, "We had constraints from COVID about the number of people we could have in our embassies at any one time etc. We are now building back very determined really from that surging resources. We have a plan when it comes to India to address the backlog of visas that have built up. I think you'll see that play out in the coming months."

US Visa Appointment Wait Time. Source: US State Department

Currently, the waiting period for Indian applicants in New Delhi is 444 calendar days for student/exchange visitor visas, 758 calendar days for visitor visas and 354 calendar days for all other non-immigrant visas.


The appointment waiting period for Pakistani applicants in Islamabad is one calendar day for student/exchange visitor visas, 450 calendar days for visitor and one calendar day for all other non-immigrant visas. For the Chinese applicants in Beijing it is two calendar days for student/exchange visitor and students visas and three calendar days for all other non-immigrant visas.

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we know is upset ...after the shit show IAF made they have to blame some thing other than Pakistani for thier failures.

I am not an enemy, I don't consider common Pakistani folks anything other than being my folks.


however your RSS gov is real problem for peace and cohesion in the region regardless how much you deny it.
 

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India may have saved a penny by purchasing a few barrels of cheaper Russian crude but has pissed off the big boys. While we may all be abusing Mir Bawla now, he may well have saved Pak for the long run by overthrowing IK and bringing in the Neutrals. With the huge financial crisis and the flood issue, Pak needs Uncle Sam by its side.

We have saying in our part of the world "You cant stay in water and pick up a fight with the crocodile"

Time will only tell.

Regards
That's because in your part of the world hippopotamus don't exist, when hippopotamus is in the same waters ,crocodiles don't come near it.
 

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India is a delusional kid who thinks that he is a grown up man.

No wonder Indian EAM Jaishankar is throwing a tantrum like a typical kid.



Exactly. Indians have foolishly picked a fight with the West.

US never forgives backstabbers.

India's end is nearing.
India is buying more than 1000 engines from American GE to power their jets
Even if India replaces American engines with their own engines in next 10 years it’s still a big deal
Tejas MK1/MK1A - 123 , 40 operational , 83 on order , order for 100 GE-F404 engines already placed
Tejas MK2 - 210 , (under development) , will require atleast 210 , GE-F414 INS6 engine
TEDBF - 100 , (under development) , will require atleast 200 GE engines because it’s a twin engine aircraft
Engine for AMCA is yet not finalized and it will enter production after 2030 so i am not counting it but there is a strong probability that it will also use GE engines
 

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India is buying more than 1000 engines from American GE to power their jets
Even if India replaces American engines with their own engines in next 10 years it’s still a big deal
Tejas MK1/MK1A - 123 , 40 operational , 83 on order , order for 100 GE-F404 engines already placed
Tejas MK2 - 210 , (under development) , will require atleast 210 , GE-F414 INS6 engine
TEDBF - 100 , (under development) , will require atleast 200 GE engines because it’s a twin engine aircraft
Engine for AMCA is yet not finalized and it will enter production after 2030 so i am not counting it but there is a strong probability that it will also use GE engines
You took 40 years for your light fighter and ended up with a lemon. Your MK2 will not be ready for another 30 years and AMCA for another 60 years.

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You took 40 years for your light fighter and ended up with a lemon. Your MK2 will not be ready for another 30 years and AMCA for another 60 years.

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When a country developes a technology from scratch it takes more time but when they develop technology based on their previous knowledge and experience it takes less time and that’s the reason why Indians are confident that they will roll out Tejas MK2 by December 2023
Same is true for turbofan engine the first engine (Kaveri) which Indians developed after 30 years of continuous research produced a wet thrust of 81kN against the required thrust of 91kN (inadequate) it cannot power Tejas but it can still power drones like GHATAK UCAV.
But the next 120kN class engine which Indians have planned for AMCA won’t take 40 years it will hardly take 8-10 years because they already have developed 80% of the turbofan engine technology and know the right questions to answer and even if it fails to achieve the target of 120kN and let’s say produces 110kN thrust that will still replace the GE F-404 engine of Tejas MK1 and MK1A
 
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When a country developes a technology from scratch it takes more time but when they develop technology based on their previous knowledge and experience it takes less time and that’s the reason why Indians are confident that they will roll out Tejas MK2 by December 2023
Same is true for turbofan engine the first engine (Kaveri) which Indians developed after 30 years of continuous research produced a wet thrust of 81kN against the required thrust of 91kN (inadequate) it cannot power Tejas but now they will use it to power drones
But the next 120kN class engine which they have planned for AMCA won’t take 40 years it will hardly take 8-10 years because they already know the right questions to answer and even if it fails to achieve the target of 120kN and let’s say produces 110kN thrust that will still replace the GE F-404 engine of Tejas MK1 and MK1A

Indians developed nothing. All they did was to buy parts for various countries and assembled them with the help fo the French and Israelis.

Indians have run out of time and know that they do not have any answer to PAF's J-10Cs equipped with PL-15s.

Indian air chief is shitting in his pants and is looking for importing foreign fighers as he knows that Indian fighters are a piece of crap.
 

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Indians developed nothing. All they did was to buy parts for various countries and assembled them with the help fo the French and Israelis.

Indians have run out of time and know that they do not have any answer to PAF's J-10Cs equipped with PL-15s.

Indian air chief is shitting in his pants and is looking for importing foreign fighers as he knows that Indian fighters are a piece of crap.
The present MK1 variant of LCA Tejas is 59.7% indigenous by Value And 75.5% bu LRU and LLRUs
The MK1A variant which they’re making will have their indigenously developed GaAs UTTAM AESA Radar which will increase the indigenous content to more than 65% by value in Tejas MK2 it will shoot up to more than 75% by value
 

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The present MK1 variant of LCA Tejas is 59.7% indigenous by Value And 75.5% bu LRU and LLRUs
The MK1A variant which they’re making will have their indigenously developed GaAs UTTAM AESA Radar which will increase the indigenous content to more than 65% by value in Tejas MK2 it will shoot up to more than 75% by value

That's just propaganda to keep gullible Indian people happy. IAF cheif knows the truth that Indians build nothing.
 

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