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US undecided on offering nuke deal to Pak:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/N-deal-for-Pak-US-denies-India-remains-anxious/articleshow/5713789.cms

ISLAMABAD/NEW DELHI: The US on Monday denied it was considering offering Pakistan a civilian nuclear deal similar to the one it signed with India, refuting purported remarks of Anne Patterson, its ambassasdor to Pakistan, to the contrary.

"The US has not entered (into) negotiations on a civil nuclear agreement with Pakistan," a PTI report said, quoting the spokesperson of the US embassy in Islamabad.

The denial came even as ambassador Patterson's remark suggesting that the US was trying to establish parity between India and Pakistan on the nuclear energy issue triggered concern in New Delhi. Foreign minister S M Krishna reacted to Patterson's remarks by reminding the US of Pakistan's notorious proliferation record. A similar stand was taken by the principal Opposition, BJP, with Yashwant Sinha, chairman of the standing committee on external affairs, criticising any attempt to establish parity between India and "a rogue state like Pakistan with the worst proliferation record".

The apprehension of a shift in stand came from Patterson's interview to a Pakistani American magazine which quoted her as saying that the US and Pakistan would have "working-level talks" on civilian nuclear energy as part of the strategic dialogue between the two countries beginning Wednesday.

On Monday, however, the US spokesperson in Islamabad sought to rebut the perception of a policy shift. "The US is committed to helping Pakistan address its real and growing energy needs, and we look forward to cooperating with Pakistan in ways that are compatible with Pakistan'e economic, environmental and security needs and with the US' international commitments and policies," the spokesperson said.

In a swift response, foreign minister Krishna said, "I think, the US would always look into the track record of every country with which they are going for certain understanding or signing a treaty. I am sure the US will remember that the proliferation of nuclear weapons was because of certain indiscretions of certain countries and more particularly Pakistan and the clandestine activities which they carried on."

Congress party said it would only comment after official US announcement on the subject, but the BJP described reports as "disturbing". Yashwant Sinha, chairman of Parliament's standing committee on external affairs, said, "The US has established parity between a nuclear rogue and India at a time when they are accusing Iran of proliferation. It is perverse and brings back the hyphenation that was supposed to be over."

He further said that Patterson's remark seems to undercut the US's claim that the Indo-US nuclear deal was an exception which could not be extended to any other country, leave alone Pakistan, "the worst proliferator".
G Parthasarathy, former diplomat, said the US move was a "violation" of the July 18 agreement, because it was premised on US and India sharing commitment against terrorism and nuclear proliferation.

In her interview, Patterson appeared to be downplaying concerns over Pakistan's proliferation record. "Earlier on, non-proliferation concerns were quite severe. I think we are begining to pass those and this is a scenario that we are going to explore."

Officials said India would keep a close watch on the US-Pakistan strategic dialogue starting in Washington this week because of the assessment that the US is looking for more ways to "accommodate" Pakistani demands, to "do more" for them to incentivize them to act against terror groups in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Daniel Markey, senior fellow Council for Foreign Relations in Washington, said, "I think the Obama administration is trying to be responsive to Pakistan's requests as a means to demonstrate its commitment to bilateral partnership. But there is zero chance that Pakistan will get a nuclear deal of the sort that we have with India. They cannot get it through Congress or the NSG."

On a more realistic level, Pakistan has a small nuclear programme, with three reactors -- Chashma 1 & 2 and Khushab (all built with Chinese assistance). While they produce a small amount of power, they are also the source for Pakistan's uranium-based nuclear weapons programme. Incidentally, both are run by Pakistan's powerful military. So there cannot be a separation of civilian and military nuclear sectors in Pakistan.

Anupam Srivastava of University of Georgia said, "Pakistan has not completed the process of strengthening its export control systems following the A Q Khan scandal, nor has it provided access to A Q Khan. On the other hand, US has worked with Pakistan's Special Plans Division on programmes including personnel reliability programme to shore up security of nuclear weapons facilities." This is a reference to George Bush spending $100 million to train Pakistanis to make their nukes more secure -- the overriding concern being that they should not fall into the hands of terrorists or guarding against "leakage" by insiders of the system.
 
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BEIJING - Indications by the US that it was open to Islamabad's plea for a civilian nuclear deal akin to the US-India agreement would further complicate the security situation in South Asia, experts told China Daily on Monday.

The Times of India newspaper reported on Monday a possible policy shift by the US, which has until now rejected Pakistan's entreaties for a nuclear deal.

Acknowledging that earlier US "non-proliferation concerns were quite severe", the US ambassador to Islamabad, Anne Patterson, told a Los Angeles-based Pakistani journal that attitudes in Washington were changing now.

She said the two sides were going to have "working level talks" on the subject during a strategic dialogue on March 24.

"I think we are beginning to pass those and this is a scenario that we are going to explore," she is reported to have said.

Pakistan and the US are set to hold their first high-level strategic dialogue this week in Washington, co-chaired by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Pakistan's foreign minister, Shah Mehmood Qureshi.

The dialogue, however, is unlikely to result in any substantive progress on the nuclear deal between the two sides, and the deal would only undermine the relations between the US and India, pushing India to seek more cooperation from Russia, said Hu Shisheng, a scholar of South Asia studies at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations.

India's landmark civilian nuclear deal with the US in 2005, which ended the isolation it had experienced since testing an atomic device in 1974, created a major exception to the US prohibition of nuclear assistance to any country that did not accept international monitoring of all its nuclear facilities.

Hu said there were still two key hurdles in the nuclear cooperation between the US and India - the US has refused to transfer nuclear technology to India and has not given India the right to reprocess nuclear waste.

"If the US makes another exception for Pakistan, India will be irritated, and that will likely derail the US-India relationship," Hu said. "India then is likely to turn to Russia for more (assistance), which the US doesn't want to see (happen)."

Russia announced it would build 16 nuclear reactors in India as part of defense and energy deals when Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin visited India this month, competing with French and US firms for contracts to build nuclear power plants in Asia's third-largest economy.

"For the US, the only consideration when it offered the possibility of a civil nuclear pact with Pakistan may have been as a bargain for more support (from Pakistan) for its anti-terror effort," Hu said.

Washington calls Pakistan's semi-autonomous tribal belt the global headquarters of Al-Qaida and the most dangerous region on Earth, where Islamist militants are fuelling the war in Afghanistan, now into its ninth year.

"But the US won't easily trust Pakistan's internal security apparatus," Hu said, referring to recent bombings. "Who knows, the nuclear reactors may be threatened?"

If a civil nuclear pact is reached between Pakistan and the US, China would face a little less pressure in responding to Pakistan's requests for nuclear cooperation, he said.

"As far as the likely US-Pakistan nuclear pact is concerned, it could be an option for China to play the role of Russia, which has benefited from the US-India nuclear pact, " Hu said.

Russia is already building two reactors in the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu, and has said that six of the reactors would be built by 2017.

Yet, there will be more problems as far as the security situation in South Asia is concerned, he said.

China-Pakistan ties have been a big concern for India. "Where will China-India relations go if China cooperates with Pakistan in civil nuclear deals?" Hu pointed out.

"The situation is already complicated in South Asia. The US-Pakistan (likely) pact will only introduce more complexities," Hu said.


Arif Rafiq, the president of Vizier Consulting, which provides strategic guidance on Middle East and South Asian political and security issues, told Radio Australia that Pakistan is expecting a lot when it comes to the civil nuclear deal and won't achieve much breakthrough (on the matter) in discussions with the US.

"It is going to be really difficult for the Pakistanis to attain some sort of progress in that in a span of two days. You need congressional approval, (and) you have to go through the IAEA's central board for approval," Rafiq is reported to have said.

Nuke deal may tangle South Asian security

I am against this nuclear deal, I would prefer NSG clearance.
 

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Indications by the US that it was open to Islamabad's plea for a civilian nuclear deal akin to the US-India agreement would further complicate the security situation in South Asia, experts told China Daily on Monday.
I think the US-Ind N-Deal has destabalised things here in South Asia. Any Deal of Such sort with Pakistan will only stabalise things.

US must do a N-Deal with Pakistan.

KIT Over
 

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China: Peaceful nuclear technology right of every sovereign country
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BEIJING: Amid reports about possible civil nuclear deal between Pakistan and Unites States, China said that a peaceful use of atomic technology is the right of every sovereign country.

China’s foreign office spokesman said today (Tuesday) that Beijing believes that atomic proliferation laws should also be implemented.

The statement came at a time when Pakistani delegation is in Washington to hold strategic dialogue with the US.

There are reports that both countries may sign a pact like India-US civilian nuclear
 

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Everyone wants a piece of cake! IF nuclear deal goes through its a long way down and highly unlikely...France will follow too..
 

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U.S. willing to consider nuke co-operation with Pak: Hillary​

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ISLAMABAD, March 23, 2010

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said United States will consider nuclear co-operation with Pakistan.

Notwithstanding India’s reservations, the U.S. on Tuesday said it would “consider” Pakistan’s request for a civil nuclear deal as it wanted to help the country meet its immediate and long-term energy needs.

Ahead of the crucial bilateral strategic dialogue between the U.S. and Pakistan on Wednesday, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made it clear that the issue of energy would be one of the subjects of discussion but refused to pre-judge the outcome of the talks.

“I am sure that’s going to be raised and we are going to be considering it but I can’t pre-judge or pre-empt what the outcome of our discussions will be,” Ms. Clinton said when asked whether Pakistan can have a civil nuclear deal with the US similar to the one Washington has with India.

“On the energy issues specifically there are more immediate steps that could be taken. We want to help Pakistan with an immediate and long term needs,” Ms. Clinton told Pakistan’s Express TV in an interview.

Ever since the U.S. signed the nuclear deal with India, Pakistan has been repeatedly seeking similar co-operation.

However, the previous Bush administration had refused to entertain the request arguing that the non-proliferation records of India and Pakistan were not comparable.

The first indications of U.S.’ willingness to discuss civil nuclear cooperation with Pakistan came two days back from U.S. Ambassador to Islamabad Anne Patterson who said that America’s non-proliferation concerns were beginning to pass and nuclear cooperation is a scenario that can be explored.

India has voiced unhappiness over such moves and has asked the U.S. to keep in mind Pakistan’s track record of clandestine nuclear proliferation.

New Delhi has underlined that the right balance has to be struck between meeting energy needs of a country and the track record of that State.

India points to the clandestine proliferation network run by the father of Pakistan’s nuclear programme A.Q. Khan, which is believed to have provided nuclear technology and material to countries like North Korea and Syria.

The Hindu : News / International : U.S. willing to consider nuke co-operation with Pak: Hillary
 

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Any country should have the right to use nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, including Iran. However, I think Pakistan might have a problem getting this deal without signing the NPT. I know this will be double standards on the part of the US, but that is how popular perception is in these times.

While this forum debates with sincerity, there are hardly any news items in the Western media about this issue. There is a random article in the Guardian, UK by a Pakistani correspondent. So I doubt if US is taking this issue as seriously as India, Pakistan or China. NDTV has a video of Hillary Clinton being interviewed by a Pakistani news channel. Listening to her, I don't feel encouraged to think this deal is anywhere near conception. For the most part, she keeps using indirect references to the nuclear deal saying "that and all other issues", supported by euphemisms and platitudes.
 

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US willing to consider nuke cooperation with Pak: Hillary Clinton
PTI, Mar 23, 2010, 07.42pm IST

ISLAMABAD: Notwithstanding India's reservations, the US on Tuesday said it would "consider" Pakistan's request for a civil nuclear deal as it wanted to help the country meet its immediate and long-term energy needs.

Ahead of the crucial bilateral strategic dialogue between the US and Pakistan on Wednesday, secretary of state Hillary Clinton made it clear that the issue of energy would be one of the subjects of discussion but refused to pre-judge the outcome of the talks.

"I am sure that's going to be raised and we are going to be considering it but I can't pre-judge or pre-empt what the outcome of our discussions will be," Clinton said when asked whether Pakistan can have a civil nuclear deal with the US similar to the one Washington has with India.

"On the energy issues specifically there are more immediate steps that could be taken. We want to help Pakistan with an immediate and long term needs," Clinton told Pakistan's Express TV in an interview.

Ever since the US signed the nuclear deal with India, Pakistan has been repeatedly seeking similar cooperation. However, the previous Bush administration had refused to entertain the request arguing that the non-proliferation records of India and Pakistan were not comparable.

The first indications of US' willingness to discuss civil nuclear cooperation with Pakistan came two days back from US ambassador to Islamabad Anne Patterson who said that America's non-proliferation concerns were beginning to pass and nuclear cooperation is a scenario that can be explored.

India has voiced unhappiness over such moves and has asked the US to keep in mind Pakistan's track record of clandestine nuclear proliferation.

New Delhi has underlined that the right balance has to be struck between meeting energy needs of a country and the track record of that state.

India points to the clandestine proliferation network run by the father of Pakistan's nuclear programme A Q Khan which is believed to have provided nuclear technology and material to countries like North Korea and Syria.

US willing to consider nuke cooperation with Pak: Hillary Clinton - US - World - The Times of India
 

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US-Pak nuke deal will further complicate South Asian security, says Chinese experta

The security situation in South Asia could get further complicated if the US agrees to have a civilian nuclear deal with Pakistan, according to experts.


Pakistan and the US are set to hold their first high-level strategic dialogue this week in Washington, co-chaired by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi.

Pakistan wants a nuclear deal with the US on the lines of Indo-US civil nuke deal, the China Daily reports.


The dialogue, however, is unlikely to result in any substantive progress on the nuclear deal between the two sides, and the deal would only undermine relations between the US and India, pushing India to seek more cooperation from Russia, said Hu Shisheng, a scholar of South Asia studies at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations.


Hu said there were still two key hurdles in the nuclear cooperation between the US and India, the US has refused to transfer nuclear technology to India and has not given India the right to reprocess nuclear waste.


"If the US makes another exception for Pakistan, India will be irritated, and that will likely derail the US-India relationship. India then is likely to turn to Russia for more (assistance), which the US doesn't want to see (happen)," the China Daily quoted Hu, as saying.


If a civil nuclear pact is reached between Pakistan and the US, China would face a little less pressure in responding to Pakistan's requests for nuclear cooperation, he said.


Yet, there will be more problems as far as the security situation in South Asia is concerned, he said.


China-Pakistan ties have been a big concern for India. "Where will China-India relations go if China cooperates with Pakistan in civil nuclear deals?" Hu queried.


"The situation is already complicated in South Asia. The US-Pakistan (likely) pact will only introduce more complexities," Hu concluded. (ANI)

http://newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/155122
 

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Its a good thing. The sub continent is going to be one developed block soon. Cheers.:cheers:

That would be so great. maybe then less people will try to move over to the US & UK,etc and make our countries better & most advanced.

one thing i really want to do is help africa, when i see all the litte kids, it makes me sad, but i'm a poor guy can't do much now, but hopefully soon. so much money is spent on wars&weapons, education and poverty are the main issues, we should all live peacefully.
 

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I think the US-Ind N-Deal has destabalised things here in South Asia. Any Deal of Such sort with Pakistan will only stabalise things.

US must do a N-Deal with Pakistan.

KIT Over
Why everybody forgets India has now nuclear deals with Canada, Russia,Australia, france, UK, south Korea , Germany etc..

why the cry over indo-US nuclear deal which hasnt finalised yet???:hitwall:
 

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Pakistan needs nuclear cooperation to build civilian nuclear power stations. Pakistanis are facing 12 hours of blackouts and need to power plants to produce electricity. The nuclear deal will also force Pakistan to play by the rules. Pakistan was faced with nuclear blackmail from India and we did what was needed to be done to build our nuclear capability. Now Pakistan needs Nuclear deal build nuclear power stations for its fast growing population.
 
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Pakistan needs nuclear cooperation to build civilian nuclear power stations. Pakistanis are facing 12 hours of blackouts and need to power plants to produce electricity. The nuclear deal will also force Pakistan to play by the rules. Pakistan was faced with nuclear blackmail from India and we did what needed to be done to build our nuclear capability. Now Pakistan needs Nuclear deal build nuclear power stations for its fast growing population.
nuclear blackmail?? when did that happen???

any reliable link to substantiate your words???/
 

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