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The Biden administration is quietly circulating an estimate of Russian casualties in Ukraine that far exceeds earlier U.S. estimates, telling lawmakers that more than 75,000 members of Russia’s forces had been killed or injured.

A legislator who recently visited Ukraine confirmed on Wednesday that the estimate had emerged in a briefing from the State Department, Department of Defense, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Earlier in the day, a reporter for CNN tweeted the estimate and said it had been shared in a classified House briefing.

Casualty estimates for militaries on both sides are highly speculative, U.S. officials have said. They often give ranges rather than specific numbers, though just last week, the C.I.A. director estimated that 60,000 Russian soldiers had been killed or injured.

If accurate, the loss of 75,000 troops to death or injury would amount to a staggering toll: Estimates of the number of Russian forces in Ukraine ranged as high as 150,000 in the spring, meaning roughly half could be out of action.

Pentagon officials have said that losing just 10 percent of a military force, including both those killed and injured, renders a single unit unable to carry out combat-related tasks. Such losses also affect the morale and cohesion of a military unit.

Throughout the war, Ukraine and Russia have shielded their casualty numbers, keeping one another, and the rest of the world, guessing about the depth of their losses. Both sides have an interest in underreporting battlefield losses: Russia to preserve its domestic narrative of success, and Ukraine, to maintain morale. Troop deaths and injuries have been mounting, given that fierce fighting has endured for months, but the Biden administration’s estimate suggests just how high casualties may have gone on Russia’s side.

More recently, a senior adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine said that Ukrainian military casualties were now between 100 and 200 per day.

Just weeks into the war, American officials offered what they said was a conservative estimate of more than 7,000 Russian war deaths so far — more than the number of American troops killed over 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. Russia followed with a far smaller count, saying on March 25 that 1,351 of its troops had been killed. And President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine said the same month that an estimated 1,300 Ukrainian soldiers had been killed.

In May, Ukraine claimed that 30,000 Russian soldiers had been killed since the invasion began in February, a number impossible to independently verify. In April, a British intelligence assessment put the estimated Russian losses at half that number.

Mr. Zelensky made a new claim in his nightly address on Tuesday, saying that almost 40,000 Russian soldiers had been killed since the start of the war, with tens of thousands more injured. That claim comports, in broad terms, with the U.S. estimate of about 75,000 Russian total casualties.

 

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I highly doubt these numbers, both sides are doing massive propaganda against each other. Fog of war always block the truth from coming out.
 

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I highly doubt these numbers, both sides are doing massive propaganda against each other. Fog of war always block the truth from coming out.
The number of 75,000 casualties is very possible. Putin refuses to publish the figures. He has a reason for. Like he refuses to publish the imports figure.

1,000 foreign companies left Russia since the war starts. They presented 40 percent of Russian GDP. That means the loss to Russia economy is very severe. Putin can never compensate this loss by increasing trades with China, India, Iran and other. It’s impossible.
 

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My estimate both sides have suffered an equal amount of military combat deaths - their basically slugging it out. Idiot Ukrainians gand ma NATO ka janda tha — ab kush.

We had a digit of 100k combined civilian, and military WIA+KIA a month ago from Ukraine
 

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poor Ukrainians being played by terrorist NATO

Zelensky has blood on this hands for not opening dialogue and peace deal with Russia

swap the land for lives as land can come back lives wont

Americans are saying "we wont give up Donbas"

ok then send your soldiers not your weapons cowards took 9 months to take Fullujah and it was retaken by ISIS in 2 weeks against a defenceless nation

Russia is taking on pretty much entire World and in 156 days took area size of France

go figure
 

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poor Ukrainians being played by terrorist NATO

Zelensky has blood on this hands for not opening dialogue and peace deal with Russia

swap the land for lives as land can come back lives wont

Americans are saying "we wont give up Donbas"

ok then send your soldiers not your weapons cowards took 9 months to take Fullujah and it was retaken by ISIS in 2 weeks against a defenceless nation

Russia is taking on pretty much entire World and in 156 days took area size of France

go figure

@aziqbal ..

Would that be your suggestion to Pakistan, if India launches a lightening strike and manages to occupy Lahore, or Karachi for some made up bullshit reason like akhand bharat or "whatever" ?

Given the land over, swap it for lives ? Forget about Karachi or Lahore? Would you tell the goverment of pakistan and people of Pakistan to not not have blood on their hands over and give over anything india wants ever to save lives ??? To sue for peace no matter the cost ???

Can you apply your "logic of ukraine" to a similar scenario involving Pakistan-India and come to the same conclusions and suggestions ????
 
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I’d say this is correct but where are the Ukrainian figures? Too horrendous to report?
The Ukrainian military themselves said they were losing 100 a day defending the East and now are calling on men of all ages with no experience.
 

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@aziqbal ..

Would that be your suggestion to Pakistan, if India launches a lightening strike and manages to occupy Lahore, or Karachi for some made up bullshit reason like akhand bharat or "whatever" ?

Given the land over, swap it for lives ? Forget about Karachi or Lahore? Would you tell the goverment of pakistan and people of Pakistan to not not have blood on their hands over and give over anything india wants ever to save lives ??? To sue for peace no matter the cost ???

Can you apply your "logic of ukraine" to a similar scenario involving Pakistan-India and come to the same conclusions and suggestions ????

Pakistan can take India

Ukraine cannot stand against Russia
 

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I’d say this is correct but where are the Ukrainian figures? Too horrendous to report?
The Ukrainian military themselves said they were losing 100 a day defending the East and now are calling on men of all ages with no experience.
Casualty figure usually do not publish like we do back in Iraq and Afghanistan. that's mostly because every soldier coming home in a box cannot escape the camera.

In the military, we are trained to estimate casualty figure (or Combat Power Assertion/Force Regeneration) by looking at how many new units were formed (Those are published). And what they are for.

Since the war, there are about 9 new Regular Brigade and 12 TDF Brigade (1 Brigade = 6000 troop) formed, usually replacement ratio is between 50-70% which put the figure of Ukrainian between 63,000 - 96,500.

I will personally put the figure to somewhere between 70,000 - 80,000, seeing that Ukrainian is making a push now.
 
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The Biden administration is quietly circulating an estimate of Russian casualties in Ukraine that far exceeds earlier U.S. estimates, telling lawmakers that more than 75,000 members of Russia’s forces had been killed or injured.

A legislator who recently visited Ukraine confirmed on Wednesday that the estimate had emerged in a briefing from the State Department, Department of Defense, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Earlier in the day, a reporter for CNN tweeted the estimate and said it had been shared in a classified House briefing.

Casualty estimates for militaries on both sides are highly speculative, U.S. officials have said. They often give ranges rather than specific numbers, though just last week, the C.I.A. director estimated that 60,000 Russian soldiers had been killed or injured.

If accurate, the loss of 75,000 troops to death or injury would amount to a staggering toll: Estimates of the number of Russian forces in Ukraine ranged as high as 150,000 in the spring, meaning roughly half could be out of action.

Pentagon officials have said that losing just 10 percent of a military force, including both those killed and injured, renders a single unit unable to carry out combat-related tasks. Such losses also affect the morale and cohesion of a military unit.

Throughout the war, Ukraine and Russia have shielded their casualty numbers, keeping one another, and the rest of the world, guessing about the depth of their losses. Both sides have an interest in underreporting battlefield losses: Russia to preserve its domestic narrative of success, and Ukraine, to maintain morale. Troop deaths and injuries have been mounting, given that fierce fighting has endured for months, but the Biden administration’s estimate suggests just how high casualties may have gone on Russia’s side.

More recently, a senior adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine said that Ukrainian military casualties were now between 100 and 200 per day.

Just weeks into the war, American officials offered what they said was a conservative estimate of more than 7,000 Russian war deaths so far — more than the number of American troops killed over 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. Russia followed with a far smaller count, saying on March 25 that 1,351 of its troops had been killed. And President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine said the same month that an estimated 1,300 Ukrainian soldiers had been killed.

In May, Ukraine claimed that 30,000 Russian soldiers had been killed since the invasion began in February, a number impossible to independently verify. In April, a British intelligence assessment put the estimated Russian losses at half that number.

Mr. Zelensky made a new claim in his nightly address on Tuesday, saying that almost 40,000 Russian soldiers had been killed since the start of the war, with tens of thousands more injured. That claim comports, in broad terms, with the U.S. estimate of about 75,000 Russian total casualties.

US should shove up his estimates where the sun doesn't shine.
 

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