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Khan vilatey

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India may be a central theme for Pakistanis. Is it really the main player in US-China dance ?
please Elaborate, who else would be the pivot in South Asia or the Indian Ocean if not India?

also if left alone, sanctioned , what will India do?

without uncle Sam’s umbrella will India hand over occupied territory to China and Pakistan or will it give all this over by losing a massive fight?

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someone is sore that they did not get invited to the QUAD. i know how sour grapes taste
that is a different subject

:enjoy::enjoy::enjoy:
If that is how India is getting treated and humiliated, after being part of so called "Quad", props to Pakistani policy makers who kept yanks at arms length. :D
 

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Yes, posts by members on PDF, most of whom are jobless like myself, provide an insight into the geostrategic mechanisations of their respective countries.
You are fully entitled to speak for yourself.

But it is really not a rocket science to understand the situation, just require a little attention and connecting the dots.
 

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Super Power 2030 should punish USA and make white slaves

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Yesterday you was moaning how Indians just troll and ruin this forum or is it ok for you to do it but Indians should not . The trolling going on here and the words used like phuddu or phudda used not for the first time and not end up with at least a warning shows the double standards on this forum and why this forum has lost a lot over the years . On topic the US navy can and will sail wherever they want and no country in the world can stop the best navy in the world .
 

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You are fully entitled to speak for yourself.

But it is really not a rocket science to understand the situation, just require a little attention and connecting the dots.
Lot of nuances would get ignored in connecting dots like you mention. As an example of complex back-channel processes that play out-why did the Pakistani army chief extend an olive branch a month back?
You are as right in jumping to a conclusion that the US has put India in its place and has defined the nature of our relationship as are the people who point to the Obama era drone attacks as a symbol of subjugation.
 

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Lot of nuances would get ignored in connecting dots like you mention. As an example of complex back-channel processes that play out-why did the Pakistani army chief extend an olive branch a month back?
You are as right in jumping to a conclusion that the US has put India in its place and has defined the nature of our relationship as are the people who point to the Obama era drone attacks as a symbol of subjugation.
Not just army cheif by PMIK also gave India olive branch, after India capitulation to China, looking at over all objectives, to maim India into CPEC/BRI.


As for Pakistan-America equation, you mentioned drone era of bygone past. Why not mention the overall situation where Pakistan was/is drilling holes in America through its proxy Taliban, the same group that it's now negotiating peace. Americans were tearing their hair out, have we not heard about Haqqani network? Dont believe yanks, you lot in India were screeching your lungs out over Pakistani support to Taliban. It's the nature of proxy war, if we hit them, they were hitting us.

Question is, what India has done to receive such disdane from yanks? Btw, you lot are now also summoned in FATF to explain your dirty laundry. It's very strange. You are doing no harm to west, rather being a very obedient and humble bootlicker.
 

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US regime: Intrudes into Indian turf and treats Indians like some abused dog.
Indian regime: I approve of this message against China.
😂
 

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Former Navy chief Admiral Arun Prakash said it was an “unnecessary move by a friendly country”. Incidentally, he said, the US was one of the few countries that did not sign “the international law the US quotes”.
He added that the move was probably a “message aimed at China”, but it “doesn’t make sense to send that message” from the Indian Ocean Region.


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Is this a joke or he said that for real ?
 

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Not just army cheif by PMIK also gave India olive branch, after India capitulation to China, looking at over all objectives, to maim India into CPEC/BRI.


As for Pakistan-America equation, you mentioned drone era of bygone past. Why not mention the overall situation where Pakistan was/is drilling holes in America through its proxy Taliban, the same group that it's now negotiating peace. Americans were tearing their hair out, have we not heard about Haqqani network? Dont believe yanks, you lot in India were screeching your lungs out over Pakistani support to Taliban. It's the nature of proxy war, if we hit them, they were hitting us.

Question is, what India has done to receive such disdane from yanks? Btw, you lot are now also summoned in FATF to explain your dirty laundry. It's very strange. You are doing no harm to west, rather being a very obedient and humble bootlicker.
If the objective is to maim india and if we capitulated, then the olive branch extension will have the opposite effect. Why not keep both the borders hot, given our tendency to capitulate?
I don’t understand the CPEC bit that you mentioned, what’s india doing with CPEC beyond protesting?
I don’t think india would fund an anti-America militia in response to a ship passing through our EEZ. The right response is diplomatic. I am glad that we follow an escalation matrix and not indulge in international proxy wars. As an example of a legal escalation matrix, had any lives been lost (even 1% of what the drone strikes resulted in), we would have upped the ante. The case of the Italian marines who fired at a fishing vessel in india is an example-
 

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