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US emargoes sale and transfer of AH-1Z Viper Helicopters to Pakistan

Discussion in 'Strategic & Foreign Affairs' started by AbuzarIlyas, Jun 18, 2018.

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  1. Imran Khan

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    WELL my dear sir
    its same as we have TOT of agosta 90b submarines can we build our own ?
     
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    Its not upto us to extend the ceasefire in Afghanistan..

    Thats between the Taliban and afghan government

    The Taliban has clearly stated they are willing to make peace as long as foreign forces are either dead or all removed from Afghanistan
     
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    Bro wait I will find the link and give whole info the engines are being made in Turkey. Give me few minutes and I will get back to you.
     
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    Aur Ghusso Americans ki tui main. It is because of generals such these who engineered this deal that Pakistan is unable to get out of the American limbo.

    I mean we unerstand that US weapons are the most cutting edge but when it’s clealry evident that the Us cannot be trusted with military sales why the hell are we so persistent. That too for a dozen cobras. there’s a saying which suits this situation perfectly. Fooled me once shame on you, fooled me twice shame on me.

    It seems like a lost love Affair and our military brass needs to get over it. Else they ll keep hurting themselves.
     
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    Okay Bro the T-800 engines are being made in turkey under a contract singed between Rolls-Royce and TAI. Plus TEI is also developing it own engine the project has already started.

    Below are all the links to get whole info. T-129 is coming USA can only delay the delivery by 2 years at max.


    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/ar...-to-develop-indigenous-turboshaft-engine.html
    https://www.tei.com.tr/detay/urun/turbosaft-motor-gelistirme-projesi
    https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Tusaş+Engine+Industries
    https://www.rolls-royce.com/media/o...5-tai-and-lhtec-sign-contract-for-cts800.aspx

    On 22 June 2008, the agreement between TUSAS Aerospace Industries (TAI) and AgustaWestland formally entered into force. Under the agreement, TAI will develop an indigenous mission computer, avionics, weapons systems, self-protection suites and the helmet-mounting cuing systems. Tusaş Engine Industries (TEI) will manufacture the LHTEC CTS800-4Nengines under licence.[15] Under the agreement, Turkey has full marketing and intellectual property rights for the T129 platform; Turkey can export also the platform to third party nations, excluding Italy and the United Kingdom.

    USA has the veto power over engines. Turkey has the replacement engines.
     
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    i remember reading when it was approved in this website and Quwa that its a 953 million deal which will be a proper purchase and sell deal....we r paying full amount of 953 from our pockets.
     
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    Don't forget the lesson from the deal of Mistral-class amphibious assault ship between France and Russia.
     
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    Nawaz Bhai we never paid 953 million for AH-1z only 57.9 million went the deal is of 953 million the payment was of 57.9 million the price of AH-1z is not 953 million. there are 30 helicopters 1000 missile in 953 million. Lot 13 UH-1Y, and 21 auxiliary fuel kits deal never went ahead.

    Brother I agree that US is not a good supplier but T-129 is sure deal USA can only delay it. nothing more.
     
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    if it was FMS or US aid trump have blocked it and tweet it long ago like f-16 and military aid .

    is bar phir lagta hai wheet leni pary gi :lol:
     
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    if blocked this is good news as pakistan wont ever order any big ticket item from usa again. it also shows people how america is working and will lose global sales as time passes.
     
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    IMHO, USA can break the deal of T-129, if USA wants to.
     
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    If you really want to be free from US influence, from a military equipment perspective, take every piece of equipment sold by US or has American components, and just stop using it. First on the list, F-16s.

    People know know how US works and they don't care.
     
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    No Turkey has it's own engines to replace US tech.
     
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    Take for example the deal of Mistral-class amphibious assault ship. France can build the ship by itself, but USA still can break the deal.
     
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    Balay balay
     
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