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US Drone strikes in Pakistan are illegal under international law.

Discussion in 'War Against Drones' started by Metallic, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. Jackdaws

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    Of course they are illegal. If a foreign powers kills your citizens in your nation - can you really call yourself sovereign? It is called an invasion.
     
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    North Waziristan: US drone strike kills 8 in Datta Khel
    Last Updated On 25 September,2014 About 17 hours from now

    PESHAWAR (Dunya News)— A US drone strike targeting militants on Wednesday killed eight locals in Datta Khel area of North Waziristan near the border with Afghanistan, Dunya News reported.

    The drone fired four missiles on a house and vehicle killing as many as eight people.

    Drone strikes were halted for six months at the request of the Pakistani government. However, the USA resumed strikes during the Zarb-e-Azb operation. The following drone strikes took place during the operation:

    11 June – Two drone attacks were carried out in Miramshah killing at least 16 suspected militants while injuring several others. The drone strikes on June 11 can be considered the first drone attacks of 2014 since the previous strike occurred in December 2013.

    18 June – At least six militants were killed in Miramshah.

    10 July – Drone strike in the Datta Khel area killed seven militants and injured three others.

    16 July - A strike firing four missiles in the tehsil of Datta Khel killed twenty militants and injured five.

    19 July - A drone strike carried out in in the tehsil of Madakhel, Data Khel, North Waziristan killed at least eleven militants, including two commanders.

    6 August - A strike in Datta Khel killed six militants and injured two others.

    Dunya News: Pakistan:-North Waziristan: US drone strike kills 8 in Datta...
     
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    That's really bizarre.
     
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    US drone strikes have done more bad than good in/for Pakistan.
     
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    These drones are useless, they have killed more civilians than militants. And hatred towards USA in Pakistan is at its peak because of these drone strikes.
     
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    Drone strikes have not killed more civilians than militants. Hatred for the USA is not caused by drone strikes but rather by Pakistani feelings of humiliation because of Pakistani government weaknesses.
     
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    These drones are in Pakistan with full willingness of Pakistani army and govt so I don't think they are illegal. Moreover, they are helping cleanse Pakistani terrorist scums, something which Pakistan itself was incapable of doing.
     
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    A 10 years too late to realize this
     
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    Great news. Less terrorists for Pakistan to kill.
     
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    Update 10 people killed including foreigners
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    US killed 2 'Arabs' in first drone strike in South Waziristan in more than a year

    By BILL ROGGIO, September 28, 2014

    Today the US launched its first drone strike in Pakistan's Taliban-controlled tribal agency of South Waziristan in more than a year.

    The CIA-operated remotely piloted Predators or Reapers struck a compound in the town of Wana in South Waziristan, Pakistani officials and Taliban fighters told Dawn.

    "Two Arab militants and two of their local allies" were killed in the airstrike, the officials and Taliban fighters said. The "Arab militants," who have yet to be named, are likely members of al Qaeda. Al Qaeda has not released an official statement announcing the deaths of their operatives, nor has their been chatter on the al Qaeda-linked Twitter accounts associated with the group's network in Afghanistan.

    Wana is a hub for the Mullah Nazir Group, a Taliban organization that controls much of the western part of South Waziristan. The group is named after Mullah Nazir, a Taliban commander who self-identified as an al Qaeda leader before he was killed in a US drone strike in January 2013. The group is currently led by Bahawal Khan, who is also known as Salahuddin Ayubi.



    Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2014/09/us_killed_2_arabs_in.php#ixzz3EegKVzIP

    In Pakistan’s Tribal North, U.S. Drone Strike Kills Four

    By SALMAN MASOODSEPT. 28, 2014

    ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — An American drone strike in northwestern Pakistan killed at least four people suspected of being militants, Pakistani officials said Sunday.

    The drone strike occurred Sunday afternoon in Karikot in the South Waziristan tribal region. A vehicle parked near a house was the target, a local administration official said on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media. Two of those killed were believed to be citizens of Arab nations. But their identities could not be immediately confirmed.

    This was the second American drone strike within a week and the first strike in South Waziristan in almost a year.

    Last Wednesday, a drone strike in Dattakhel, in the adjacent North Waziristan tribal region, killed at least 10 people who were thought to be militants.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/29/world/in-pakistans-tribal-north-us-drone-strike-kills-four.html
     
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    Since Pakistani govt. provides the intel, don't think its illegal.
     
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    Well, the issue is "illegal" according to WHO?? There is no recognized legal system that could adjudicate the "legality" of US drone strikes in the FATA parts of Pakistan. IF Pakistan thinks a "crime" has been committed on its territory because of a drone strike, it should bring criminal charges against the perpetrators. Then, if the charges were sustained by a guilty verdict, then we could say that according to Pakistan the drone strike was illegal. Until such transpires, the "illegal" charge is just political hype.
     
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    I doubt they provided the intel for where Osama was :)
    Also, Pak does not provide intel for ALL strikes - heck, some are seen in Pak as "strategic assets" and viewed through the lens of "Good Taliban" ; "Bad Taliban".
     
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