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  1. Spring Onion

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    :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) 23 killed in a go? No publicity ? Strange. Unbelievably big invisible olive branch.
     
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    thats the way to do it. terrorist must be eleminated.
    i hope us realise it soon.

    infact they need to do much more and help Pakistan.
    May take a bigger initiative and eradicate them from bloch to punjab to kashmir.
    they should strike em wherever needs be karaci lahore pindi or quetta.
     
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    Chuck Hagel, Barack Obama's new defence secretary, has been criticised over remarks in which he claimed India was using assistance to Afghanistan as a "second front" in its long-running conflict with Pakistan.
    His comments, which emerged following the discovery of a video-recording of a speech he made in 2011, appeared to support long-standing claims by Pakistan that India's deep engagement in Afghanistan – it is one of the war-torn country's largest aid donors and has several consulates – are part of a campaign to sabotage Islamabad.

    The existence of the video was disclosed by the Washington Free Beacon investigative news site which said he had made the speech at Cameron University in Oklahoma.

    It was disclosed hours before the decorated Vietnam veteran was sworn in as defence secretary, following severe criticism from former Republican colleagues of his positions on Iran and Israel.

    The former Republican senator from Nebraska, who won two Purple Hearts for his bravery as a soldier during the Vietnam War, was accused of being critical of Israel and weak on Iran's alleged nuclear weapon ambitions.

    In the speech, he said: "India for some time has always used Afghanistan as a second front, and India has over the years financed problems for Pakistan on that side of the border. And you can carry that into many dimensions, the point being (that) the tense, fragmented relationship between Pakistan and Afghanistan has been there for many, many years."


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    His comments reflect Pakistan's criticism of India's extensive aid programme and diplomatic presence in the country as a cover for its activities against Islamabad.

    American officials have in recent years blamed Pakistan's intelligence services for involvement in terrorist attacks on India's Kabul embassy – 58 were killed and 141 injured in the 2008 suicide bombing, and 17 people were killed in another attack the following year.

    India has given more than $500 million to Kabul and provided significant assistance in building roads, telecommunication networks and satellite systems for its television stations. It has also served as a medical centre for senior Afghan government and military officials wounded in insurgency attacks.

    New Delhi has so far sought to underplay Mr Hagel's comments and has referred to his support of its US civilian nuclear cooperation deal signed under President George W. Bush.

    Indian security analyst B Raman dismissed Mr Hagel's comments as "absurd" but said President Obama's friendly attitude to India was more important.

    "These arguments were used by Pakistan to stop any role for India in Afghanistan. But we should be more concerned about the views of the president," he said.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...criticised-for-India-Afghanistan-remarks.html
     
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    I was waiting for this article to be posted by you guys. Pray tell us where it says terrorism, use of TTP or anything remotely related. We used NATO as second and third fronts and create 'trouble' for our adversaries. That does not mean we are using and promoting terrorist. India is establishing itself inside Afghanistan to its advantage and using soft power of building projects to counter Pakistani influence. That's not using TTP.
     
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    20 is a huge number , but i am more interested in dead Fazullah
     
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    Bharat matta was not a nation. Its a mere Hindu fantasy that's being treated as some reality by the hallucinating.

    It was your goons who refused to agree autonomy in Muslim lands in the original proposal so we were left with the only option to carve Pakistan out.

    Blame the British for conceding this butchering of your Bharat matta. They couldn't care less and 'might' was with them.
     
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    Yea sure you were waiting for this article.

    In the speech, he said: "India for some time has always used Afghanistan as a second front, and India has over the years financed problems for Pakistan on that side of the border. And you can carry that into many dimensions, the point being (that) the tense, fragmented relationship between Pakistan and Afghanistan has been there for many, many years."

    The only problem Pakistan is facing from Afghanistan is TTP and Bloach insurgencies. One just needs a brain to figure it out.

    Just for your satisfaction I’ll post another article.


    Thursday, 07 January 2010, 13:10

    S E C R E T ABU DHABI 000009
    NOFORN
    E.O. 12958: DECL: 2035/01/07 TAGS: ECON, PTER, KTFN, AE, AF, EFIN SUBJECT: (S) US-UAE Further Cooperation to Disrupt Taliban Finance
    CLASSIFIED BY: Richard Olson, Ambassador, State Department, U.S. Embassy Abu Dhabi; REASON: 1.4(B), (D)

    (S//NF) Summary

    1. (S//NF) SUMMARY. On December 15-16, 2009, Treasury Department Acting Assistant Secretary of the Office of Intelligence and Analysis Howard Mendelsohn, along with GRPO officers and Treasury analysts, met with senior officials from the UAE's State Security Department (SSD) and Dubai's General Department of State Security (GDSS) to discuss suspected Taliban-related financial activity in the UAE. Prior to these meetings, GRPO and Treasury passed to SSD and GDSS detailed information on the financing of the Taliban and other terrorist and extremist groups based in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Mendelsohn praised the UAE for its contribution to building a stable and moderate Afghanistan. He thanked the SSD and GDSS for its commitment, per the directive of Abu Dhabi Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, to disrupt any Taliban-related financial activity that can be identified in the UAE. The UAE services pledged full cooperation toward the shared goal and asked for additional detailed and actionable lead information. In particular, they asked for additional passport information, telephone numbers, full names and aliases, and travel itineraries for Taliban figures suspected of traveling to the UAE. END SUMMARY.

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    2. (S//NF) During the course of the two multi-hour intelligence exchange sessions, GRPO and Treasury analysts walked through the previously shared information suggesting that Taliban-related finance officials have visited the UAE in order to raise or move funds. The UAE security officials believe that the Taliban may draw support from the sizeable Pashtun population resident in the UAE. They asked for lead information the U.S. could gather with names of individuals or entities in the UAE that may be supporting the Taliban.

    3. (S//NF) Officials from SSD and GDSS pledged that their respective organizations would follow up on the information provided, and work through intelligence channels to share information and results and submit additional requests for information.

    Taliban/Haqqani Network

    4. (S//NF) Mendelsohn acknowledged the important steps the UAE has taken to combat al-Qaida and the Taliban-to include sending troops to Afghanistan-and highlighted the importance the USG places on combating Taliban financing. He stated that the Taliban receives significant money from narcotics trafficking and extortion, but noted that the U.S. believes that the group also receives significant funds from the Gulf, particularly from donors in Saudi Arabia and the UAE. He further stated that the Taliban and Haqqani Network are believed to earn money from UAE-based business interests. Security officials from both SSD and GDSS agreed that the Taliban and Haqqani Network are serious threats. Officials from SSD added that Iran supports the Taliban with money and weapons, helps the Taliban smuggle drugs, and facilitates the movement of Taliban and al-Qaida members. SSD officials stated that Iran's IRGC and navy are involved with these activities. GDSS officials noted Iran's support to Taliban in Pakistan, adding that GDSS believes that India also has supported Pakistani Taliban and Pashtun separatists.

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    5. (S//NF) Treasury analysts provided information on XXXXXXXXXXXX two senior Taliban officials who have made multiple fundraising visits to the UAE, according to U.S. intelligence. The UAE security services were not familiar with either individual and asked for additional identifying information, including current passport information used by the individuals to enter the UAE in order to track down their movements. (NOTE: Information available to the USG and shared for this exchange included telephone numbers, an e-mail address, and expired passport information for crosschecking against Emirati immigration databases on both individuals. END NOTE.) SSD confirmed it checked UAE immigration systems based on the passport information provided and found no matching records. GRPO and Treasury analysts also shared names and phone numbers of multiple Taliban and Haqqani associates known either to reside in or travel to the UAE. SSD officials stated that Taliban fundraisers may use fabricated travel documents, and that Pakistanis/Afghanis often carry multiple passports, but noted that individuals from Pakistan and Afghanistan who apply for a travel visa now require an eye scan. The officials said this system should help prevent a single individual from using different aliases or passports. The services pledged to continue their investigations and share further results.

    6. (S//NF) GDSS officials noted its ongoing monitoring of the large Afghan and Pakistani immigrant communities in Dubai and they commented that the Taliban extorts money from UAE-based Afghan businessmen. The same officials said the Taliban is also involved in kidnapping for ransom, whereby Afghanistan and Pakistan-based family members of the UAE-based businessmen are kidnapped for Taliban profit. Some Afghan businessmen in the UAE have resorted to purchasing tickets on the day of travel to limit the chance of being kidnapped themselves upon arrival in either Afghanistan or Pakistan.

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    7. (S//NF) The GDSS officials stated that hawaladars are usually unwitting when they transfer money that ends up with the Taliban. They further noted that Taliban financial supporters are likely to transfer smaller amounts across multiple hawalas to minimize suspicion.

    8. (S//NF) SSD officials discussed the Taliban and Haqqani Network's suspected use of front companies to raise and move money. They were familiar with Haji Khalil Zadran, a Kabul-based Haqqani Network financial facilitator who has visited the UAE, but were not able to provide any details on him.

    9. (S//NF) GDSS officials were familiar with XXXXXXXXXXXX who reportedly provides funding to the Taliban/Haqqani Network, according to U.S. intelligence. The GDSS officials stated that they do not believe XXXXXXXXXXXX is loyal to the Taliban, and noted that he has cooperated with Pakistani authorities, as well as with Afghan President Karzai. They pointed out XXXXXXXXXXXX's past visits from former Guantanamo Bay detainee Mullah Zaif, but noted that such visits-which may have resulted in financial support-have ceased. GDSS continues to monitor XXXXXXXXXXXX although at present they do not believe that he is a Taliban financial manager. Mendelsohn suggested that he may be a pragmatist who maintains relationships with legitimate authorities, but the USG has current information that suggests he is still involved with the Taliban.

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    10. (S//NF) GDSS discussed at length the history of the Haqqanis. They specifically highlighted Jalaluddin Haqqani's success in exploiting images of civilian casualties in Afghanistan for fundraising purposes.

    (S//NF) Lashkar-e-Tayyiba and Jamaat al-Dawa al-Quran wa al-Sunna

    11. (S//NF) Mendelsohn also raised Afghanistan and Pakistan-based extremist and terrorist groups, to include Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LT) and Jamaat al-Dawa al-Quran wa al-Sunna (JDQ). UAE security services were not familiar with the names of specific UAE-based LT members shared by GRPO and Treasury, but promised to follow up on the information. Mendelsohn raised the UAE-based NGO Dar al-Birr as an organization suspected of supporting JDQ. GDSS was familiar with the organization and pledged to investigate the matter.

    OLSON
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/242756

    I guess you expected someone to post this article too.
     
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    Giving is not in the Indian DNA, they gotta get something from it.

    They wanted a foothold. Chuck Hagel kinda eluded to that little fact.
     
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    Don't play cowardice Kashmiri game with me! Don't mask terrorists and over ground workers as civilians. Have balls to say we attacked, don't play both sides, separatists and civilians.

    You yourself accepted that Pakistani Muslims dissected India because they were mighty force.

    All of a sudden, salwar got loose and you started playing victim card.

    Be respectful to yourself. Accept you made Pakistan by force and fight. Don't hide under British Burqua.

    Accept openly, man to man, might is right and you won't be called as hypocrite.
     
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    :lol:

    British raped her and then we carved our land that rightly belonged to the Indus valley civilization!

    Btw, it was the Muslims who faught the British, where we you chicken shits? Hindus were the first to accept slavery of Brits!

    As for might, Muslims were a minority without weapons. Political might yes we had but physical might we didn't at that time.

    I know it hurts but try not to drown in your sorrows.
     
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    You have one person's mundane comment about India using soft power influence, no covert, or overt or even soft tone that had to do with terrorism as a tool. His comment was about India's influence in Afghanistan to drive out Pak interest, sideline it wherever and not India using terror groups. I understand that all you do is hang on these opaque words, but there is no ' there' there. serious, if it were we would have heard a lot more by now. You infamous dossiers gentleman would have had evidence of it within it by now.

    regarding the 2010 article and the bold part.
    GDSS officials = Dubai's General Department of State Security. Same folks who are the biggest Salafist terrorist, Islamist cesspool generator of a country. Yeah, them adding a one-liner in the meeting - I would take it with a pinch of salt.

    To be frank- Here is the expectation of burden of proof. Show us countries that have openly called on India as supporting terrorism. Pakistan just had 34 out 35 countries label it as such in FATF. Show me where you have a similar situation of even one. Clutching at straws, twisting meanings of words is self-serving
     
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    Didn't know TTP was Hindu organisation.

    Maybe it's hidden wing of RSS..

    You poor people spew out some really funny nonsense for sure.. Lol
     
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    And who is he?? Whatever people dies everyday but 20 kills is a good kill.
     
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    Why is it a big blow to India ,we don't believe in good and bad terrorist.for is a dead terrorist is a good terrorist.
    Bro if we are in the business of supporting these terrorists do you think 20 terrorists killed will have any effect on us,you know getting replacement in that part of the world is no big deal.