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US committed to a permanent seat for India in a reformed UN Security Council

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  1. Abhijeet Sarkar

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    New Delhi: The US is committed to a permanent seat for India in a reformed UN Security Council, US ambassador to India Richard Verma said on Friday, a day after it emerged that the US, Russia and China had opposed negotiations to reform the powerful global decision making body.

    Recalling that US president Barack Obama had in 2010 and in 2015 voiced support for India’s candidature for a seat in a reformed UN Security Council, Verma said the American commitment to support India’s bid was explicit.

    “US policy is clear, it has not changed, it supports India’s bid to (be a permanent part of)...Security Council,” the ambassador said on the sidelines of an event hosted by the Observer Research Foundation think tank in New Delhi where he spoke on Protecting Our Shared Spaces.

    The comments follow a letter sent by American ambassador to the UN Samantha Power earlier this year to UN General Assembly president Sam Kutesa that said that the US is “open in-principle” to a “modest” expansion of both permanent and non-permanent members, but on the condition that “any consideration of an expansion of permanent members must take into account the ability and willingness of countries to contribute to the maintenance of international peace and security and to the other purposes of the United Nations”.

    Power added: “We believe that consideration of new permanent members must be country-specific in nature,” a PTI report from New York said on Thursday. She also reiterated that the US remains opposed to “any alteration or expansion of the veto”.

    These remarks have been viewed in New Delhi as a major reversal of US position on India in a reformed UN Security Council.

    With the UN looking to mark 70 years of its existence on 24 October and slated to open its 70th general assembly session next month, India has been trying to build a momentum in favour of an expansion of the Security council.

    It is made up of five veto-wielding permanent members—US, Britain, France, China and Russia—and 10 non-permanent members who have no veto powers and who are elected for a two-year term. All council resolutions are biding on its member-states. According to India, the current composition of the Security Council does not reflect the reality of 2015 but the years that followed World War II.

    According to the PTI report on Thursday, Russia, which had also supported India’s candidacy as a permanent member, said in its letter to Kutesa that the “prerogatives of the current permanent members of the Security Council, including the use of the veto, should remain intact under any variant of the council reform.”

    “The intergovernmental negotiations on the UN Security Council reform should proceed in a calm, transparent and inclusive atmosphere free from artificial deadlines,” it said.

    Meanwhile, in his speech, Verma spoke of the sweeping changes in India-US relations in the past decade and a half as he outlined how both countries could join forces for common good.

    He also condemned the recent spate of terror attacks in India. “Let me pause here to make clear that we condemn in the strongest possible terms the recent cross-border terror attacks, and stand with the people of India—and all free people—in fighting this scourge of terrorism, wherever it occurs,” he said. “There can be no place, no accommodation, and no justification for those who carry out violence on innocents.” India has blamed Pakistan for recent attacks in Kashmir and Punjab.

    On an increased India-US partnership for global peace, Verma said: “It is the US-India relationship that can help counter the trend of global uncertainty and reinforce the rules-based international order. In fact, what we do together has the potential to help underwrite global security and prosperity for the long-term.

    “As leading powers, cooperation between the United States and India to preserve the integrity of this public good can drive our bilateral strategic cooperation for decades and will lay the groundwork for the next big breakthrough in bilateral relations,” he said.
    US committed to a permanent seat for India in a reformed UN Security Council - Livemint
    No change in stance on India’s claim: US envoy
     
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    we need to keep working on our goal to achieve economic growth of above 8% or more and rest all of these seats of power in UN will come in due course when ever the UN body is reformed
     
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    Considering that the US recently rejected even having a debate (along with Russia and China) to any changes to the structure to the UNSC, against Indian demands, I highly doubt the US is serious.

    The Americans are using India, they'll never seriously give a permanent seat to another nation, creating another potential rival at the council.
     
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    These are just political & diplomatic tussle nothing more.
    Current UNSC is a WW2 era setup which is in her last stage.
    In 15 years we outpace UK & France in economically & militarily & already have outpaced Russia economically.
    Japan is shelving his pacific attitude & Germany is undisputed emperor of EU.
    Current trend in Brazil is not optimistic but I am hopeful for future.
    This all situation makes 2 members of UNSC inappropriate for world security council.
     
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    Lets be honest, no super power will share power with a potential future rival ( which India has a strong chance of being), heck, it wont share power with its strongest ally.

    You can be optimistic, but don't get your hopes too high. No super power likes sharing.
     
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    US will give seat to India without Veto.

    That has been their position so far, and nothing has changed.
     
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    Its a human nature but can you stop the rule of change.
    Sun set of the British Empire & so does USA, CHINA, INDIA or anyone.
    You can't stop anyone who are committed for a task, you can just use some blockage to buy some time.
     
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    For the permanent seat, you have to earn it by yourself depending on how much contribution you've gave to the world economy and peace. Nothing is free, if the U.S. promised India a seat, there must be political prerequisite, or other prices you have to pay for. I'm not desperately opposing India's wish, but talking the truth. Do not trust your political partners or even allies, why would the U.S. be so kind to do that? If the U.S. gives it to India, then you have to listen to U.S.'s call.
     
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    Permanent UNSC member, but without veto powers.

    This is what the US and China are open to (as noted in official statements). It would be too-optimistic to think that the Big-5 would want another country sharing the veto power further.
     
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    yes but that seat will be outside just as a peon.
     
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    With these criteria Japan (pacific not imperial) fits more on the bill so does Germany & UK should have no place in UNSC as it is just a state of USA.
    Its a simply WW2 order.
    Even diplomats know that it is just lollypop but you need to remind that you are contender to the world nothing else.
    After 15 years what influence UK & France bring compare to India ?
     
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    Let's be honest here, India is entitled to a seat at the UNSC in the future (near future). The thing is, the West needs to give back one seat (Britain and France swapped for a single EU seat). Otherwise, it's time for a new UN, the Asian/African/Latin American powers together with the entire non-aligned movement. This bs UNSC is a relic of WW2. Simply look at population, industrial output, gdp and what not. How the hell does that little RAT france deserve an entire seat at the UNSC? Same for that has been douchebag Britain.
     
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    China+Russia+America have already made it plain that they are firmly opposed to any change in veto powers.

    That's what they say openly.

    In practice though, they are even shutting down any "discussion" on UNSC reform.

    As for Germany, they are already a part of the P5+1.

    Well then ask again in 15 years.
     
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    Right! The Yanks are used to playing games.

    Anyway, getting a permanent seat in the lame duck UNSC is of zero consequence. It doesn't put more food on the table for the poor.
     
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    LOL, and we paid salaries to our IFS officers posted in UN goes in waste.