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The US has blacklisted seven Chinese groups it accuses of building supercomputers to help its military.
It is the first move by the Biden administration to make it harder for China to obtain US technology
On Thursday, three companies and four branches of China's National Supercomputing Center were added to the US blacklist.

This bars American companies from exporting technology to the groups without proper approval.


The US commerce department said the groups were involved in building supercomputers used by Chinese "military actors" and facilitating programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction.
The sanctioned groups are leading China's supercomputing development and are key players in Beijing's plan for chip self-sufficiency.

US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said the Biden administration would use "the full extent of its authorities to prevent China from leveraging US technologies to support these destabilising military modernisation efforts"


The Trump administration had also targeted dozens of Chinese companies it suspected of using American technology for military uses, including phonemaker Huawei.

Mr Biden's move on Thursday requires the seven Chinese groups to obtain licences to access American technologies, including chip infrastructures designed by Intel and other U.S chipmakers.
While the blacklist bars US-based companies from providing services and products to the Chinese firms, it doesn't bar those that are produced in facilities outside of the US.

One such company is TSMC, the Taiwan-based company that has become the world's most advanced semiconductor manufacturer.

:usflag: :sniper: :china::suicide:

 

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Limited impact.


New US sanctions will cut supplies of the most advanced hardware China needs to develop the world’s fastest computers, but their impact on the country’s military technology may be limited, observers say.

The US Department of Commerce on Thursday blacklisted seven Chinese centres or entities involved in China’s next-generation supercomputer programme, alleging the technology could serve military purposes, such as to develop nuclear and hypersonic weapons. They now need approval to trade with American companies. Supercomputers play an important role in advanced weapons development – they can be used to test the aerodynamics of a hypersonic glider or to simulate a nuclear explosion. And it comes as Beijing is pushing technological innovation, especially in areas like supercomputing and artificial intelligence.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian told reporters on Friday the US move would only strengthen Beijing’s determination to innovate and vowed to hit back if necessary. “China will take necessary measures to resolutely protect the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese companies,” Zhao said.

The sanctions could mean some Chinese companies may no longer be able to outsource the manufacture of custom computer chips to overseas foundries such as Samsung in South Korea and TSMC in Taiwan, according to Xiao Limin, an adviser to the government on supercomputer technology. “That could cause some temporary issues – some may be challenging, but they will not affect the development of our next-generation supercomputer in the long run,” said Xiao, who is also a professor with Beihang University and member of the Chinese Computer Society’s high-performance computing committee.

But military expert Song Zhongping did not expect any immediate impact on Chinese weapons development, saying it did not rely on the most advanced semiconductor chips targeted by the sanctions.

 
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The US has blacklisted seven Chinese groups it accuses of building supercomputers to help its military.
It is the first move by the Biden administration to make it harder for China to obtain US technology
On Thursday, three companies and four branches of China's National Supercomputing Center were added to the US blacklist.

This bars American companies from exporting technology to the groups without proper approval.


The US commerce department said the groups were involved in building supercomputers used by Chinese "military actors" and facilitating programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction.
The sanctioned groups are leading China's supercomputing development and are key players in Beijing's plan for chip self-sufficiency.

US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said the Biden administration would use "the full extent of its authorities to prevent China from leveraging US technologies to support these destabilising military modernisation efforts"


The Trump administration had also targeted dozens of Chinese companies it suspected of using American technology for military uses, including phonemaker Huawei.

Mr Biden's move on Thursday requires the seven Chinese groups to obtain licences to access American technologies, including chip infrastructures designed by Intel and other U.S chipmakers.
While the blacklist bars US-based companies from providing services and products to the Chinese firms, it doesn't bar those that are produced in facilities outside of the US.

One such company is TSMC, the Taiwan-based company that has become the world's most advanced semiconductor manufacturer.

:usflag: :sniper: :china::suicide:

so you axing yourself on your own for blacklisting various Chinese Compines
 

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cool then, nothing to worry about because TWO Chinese dudes from Beijing wrote so in scmp. We will continue our limited impact as we did on Huawei :yes4:
You are lazy to think :)

Becos this:
But unlike smartphones, supercomputers only need a relatively small number of chips, which could give their designers some flexibility to get around the sanctions.
 

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China is free to do the same to the US.

If this has little to mo impact, why complain?
 

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China is free to do the same to the US.

If this has little to mo impact, why complain?
:sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic:

Supercomputation is all about Science and Technology which China are not lacking today. So why bothers?

Let the US politicians do their China bashing and anti-China propaganda.

It won't do a thing to China.

and it did. Mike Pompeo and Peter Navarro are under targetted sanctions. Why did Mike Pompeo complain?
Simple. The company he used to work for makes a lot of money from China.
They dare not to employ him today.
 

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China is free to do the same to the US.

If this has little to mo impact, why complain?
It's not about complain or not but matter of priniciple. US claim Uyghur genocide then what moral ground US has for butchering Iraqi, red Indian, syrian ,afghanistan and libyan.

Why US is selective to sanction countries? Doesn't country like Saudi also commit mass genocide against Yemen? Did US sanction Saudi military?

If US make statement claim they stop selling parts to these institute becos they are afraid of competition. I am sure Chinese will have no complain.
 

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US claim Uyghur genocide then what moral ground US has for butchering Iraqi, red Indian, syrian ,afghanistan and libyan.
Wrong, it's the Syrian government that butchered it's own people not the US. In fact the Syrian army kills more civillians than Isis and syrian rebels combined.
 

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It's not about complain or not but matter of priniciple. US claim Uyghur genocide then what moral ground US has for butchering Iraqi, red Indian, syrian ,afghanistan and libyan.

Why US is selective to sanction countries? Doesn't country like Saudi also commit mass genocide against Yemen? Did US sanction Saudi military?

If US make statement claim they stop selling parts to these institute becos they are afraid of competition. I am sure Chinese will have no complain.
You're beating around the bush, and bringing up topics that have nothing to do with this.

The US and China are military rivals, did you expect the US to do nothing?
and it did. Mike Pompeo and Peter Navarro are under targetted sanctions. Why did Mike Pompeo complain?
Because its called war of narratives, aka propaganda.

Anyway, doesn't matter. Both sides can sanction the hell out of each other for all I care.
 

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It's not about complain or not but matter of priniciple. US claim Uyghur genocide then what moral ground US has for butchering Iraqi, red Indian, syrian ,afghanistan and libyan.

Why US is selective to sanction countries? Doesn't country like Saudi also commit mass genocide against Yemen? Did US sanction Saudi military?

If US make statement claim they stop selling parts to these institute becos they are afraid of competition. I am sure Chinese will have no complain.
what has Saudi and Iraq and Syria got to do with Chinese patent infringement

there is something called international law, you cannot sell phones to people and then spy on the consumers

if China kept making toys it would be fine, but trying to build electronics like phones and using then to spy on consumers is violation of person freedom, and thats why Huawei is now no more, even although it was supported by the CCP

if a "world leading" company supported by central government did not survive what hope have the rest got, zero chance of success
 

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