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US Army To Evaluate 10 Subguns for Sub Compact Weapon Program

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  1. Zarvan

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    Spc. David Bromley, with 6th Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, fires a HK MP7 (not a potential SCW) at a range in Baghlan province, Afghanistan, June 3, 2013. German and U.S. forces had the chance to fire each other’s weapons during this training event. (U.S. Army courtesy photo/Released)

    The US Army is set to evaluate 10 off the shelf submachine guns to fill its recently identified Sub Compact Weapon role. Last month (May 2018) the US Army’s PEO Soldier – Project Manager Soldier Weapons issued a Request for Information (RFI) to obtain industry feedback on possible submissions for submachine guns.


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    The specifications for potential Sub Compact Weapon (SCW) was vague and extremely broad, with theinitial SCW RFI reading:

    magazines, cleaning kits, suppressors, specialized tool kit (if required), spare parts, slings, carrying cases, manuals.

    II. Ammunition for SCW – Compatibility with 9×19 mm military grade will be required.

    III. Sub Compact Weapon – The SCW will be a full/semi-automatic selectable variant that has a MIL-STD 1913 rail (Picatinny Rail).

    It seems the RFI garnered plenty of interest and the US Army is set to evaluate no less than 10 potential SCWs. The US Army’s Contracting Command intends to award sole source contracts to the following:

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0034
    Awardee: Colt’s Manufacturing Company LLC for CM9MM-9H-M5A, Colt Modular 9mmSub Compact Weapon
    Amount: $22,000.00

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0037
    Awardee: Beretta USA Corporation for Beretta PMX Sub Compact Weapon
    Amount: $16,000.00

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0038
    Awardee: CMMG, Inc. for CMMG Ultra PDW Sub Compact Weapon
    Amount: $8,500.00

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0039
    Awardee: CZ-USA for CZ Scorpion EVO 3 A1 Submachine gun
    Amount: $14,490.00

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0040
    Awardee: Lewis Machine & Tool Company for MARS-L9 Compact Suppressed Weapon
    Amount: $21,900.00

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0041
    Awardee: PTR Industries, Inc. for PTR 9CS Sub Compact Weapon
    Amount: $12,060.00

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0042
    Awardee: Quarter Circle 10 LLC 5.5 CLT and 5.5 QV5 Sub Compact Weapon
    Amount: $24,070.00

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0043
    Awardee: SIG SAUER, Inc. for SIG SAUER MPX Sub Compact Weapon
    Amount: $20,160.00

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0044
    Awardee: Trident Rifles, LLC for B&T MP9 Machine Guns
    Amount: $36,000.00

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0045
    Awardee: Zenith Firearms for Z-5RS, Z-5P and Z-5K Sub Compact Weapons
    Amount: $39,060.00

    This extremely broad selection ranges from everything from MP5 clones (from PTR and Zenith) to AR15-based guns (from LMT, CMMG, Colt and possibly Quarter Circle 10). It was widely speculated that the SIG Sauer MPX and CZ Scorpion EVO 3 would go head to head for the SCW contract, and both have made the list, alongside the new Beretta PMX and B&T MP9. The single uniting factor of the various weapon systems is that, as the RFI requested, they are all chambered in 9x19mm.

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    CZ Scorpion EVO 3(CZ)

    The Army’s Contracting Command’s special notice did, however, offer some more information. Describing the SCW as:

    a highly concealable sub compact weapon system capable of engaging threat personnel with a high volume of lethal and accurate fires at close range with minimal collateral damage. An SCW includes but is not limited to functional weapon, magazines, cleaning kits, suppressors, specialized tool kit (if required), spare parts, slings, carrying cases, manuals.

    We also learn that the SCW is intended for Army Personal Security Details (PSD). PSDs are tasked with the close protection of senior officers and brigade command teams during operations. They essentially provide security and force protection for command staff. As such they are often moving in and out of vehicles and buildings and operating in confined spaces where a compact weapon would be useful.

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    SIG Sauer MPX (SIG Sauer)

    The notice goes as far as to suggest that “failure to provide the selected SCW for assessment and evaluation will leave PSD military personnel with a capability gap which can result in increased warfighter casualties and jeopardize the success of the U.S. mission.”

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    The right side of Beretta PMX with stock extended (Beretta Defense Technologies)

    The notice explains that the procurement of the SCW is essential to the requirement set out by Product Manager, Individual Weapons mission to assess commercially available off-the-shelf weapons that “fill a capability gap in lethality and concealability.”

    As yet there are no details on the number of weapons ordered for evaluation from each of the companies listed and no numbers for how many SCWs might be procured if a larger contract is awarded. TFB has reached out to the Army Contracting Command for comment on the SCW programme and will take a closer look at the 10 SCW candidates selected in an upcoming article.

    Sources:

    ‘Request for Information for Sub Compact Weapons’, FedBizOps, retrieved 08/05/18 from source

    ‘Synopsis of Contract Award’, FedBizOps, retrieved 08/06/18 from source

    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...te-10-subguns-for-sub-compact-weapon-program/
     
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    I was hoping Pakistan replaces MP5 with CZ Scorpion too!
     
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    Inspite of being a Nuclear and Missile power, not being able to field a home grown small arms system is moment of silence for Armed Forces and Industry.
     
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    When a solution at a very good cost is available then funds can be spent on missiles. Not all nations make everything. some specialise in few sectors.
     
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    Any available solution will not offset advantages of home grown industry.
    Small Arms aren't something which we can't master.In Pakistan there are thousands of competent Gunsmiths.
     
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    again it all comes down to what is available as a solution at a competitive cost than spending uncountable sums on R&D. Money dont grow on trees. Pakistan is doing very well in Missile sector and it should for now focus on its strengths.
     
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    Just few odd million dollors.
     
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    spend it on drone R&D instead!
     
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    Scorpion or not but I hope Pakistan produces a Hand Gun and Sub Machine Gun series which is available in 4 calibers.

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    BREAKING: US Army Adds More Guns to Sub Compact Weapon Trials



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    U.S. Army Sgt. Daniel Dunlap familiarizes himself with the operation of a PM-98 9mm sub-machine gun [obviously not part of the SCW programme) during a live-fire exercise on Forward Operating Base Dagger in Tikrit, Iraq, Aug. 7, 2006. Dunlap is attached to the Military Integrated Transition Team, 101st Airborne Division. (DoD photo by Staff Sgt. Russell Lee Klika/U.S. Army)

    The US Army has expanded its upcoming Sub Compact Weapon evaluations adding three more weapons to the trials. Back in May PEO Soldier – Project Manager Soldier Weapons issued a Request for Information to industry for a Compact, concealable 9x19mm submachine gun. Following this the US Army’s Contracting Command posted a notice on FedBizOps awarding 10 sole source contracts on 8 June.

    Heckler and Koch Defense (HK’s US arm), Angstadt Arms Corporation and Noveske Corporation have now been tapped to submit weapons. Heckler and Koch will submit the UMP9, not the older MP5 (clones of which have been submitted by several companies including Zenith and POF). Angstadt will submit the UDP-9 while Noveske will enter the Noveske Sub Compact Weapon.

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    PEO Soldier is seeking a highly concealable ‘sub compact weapon’ that is capable of engaging threats with a “high volume of lethal and accurate fires at close range with minimal collateral damage.” The new Weapon is destined for Personal Security Details that are currently armed with various pistols and M4 carbines.

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    The Angstadt UDP-9 Sub Compact Weapon which actually takes Glock mags (Angstadt Arms Corporation)

    The Army’s Contracting Command updated the original contract award notice 15 June:

    This synopsis has been amended on 15 June 2018. The ACC-NJ, on behalf of PM Soldier Weapons, also intends to solicit and award sole source contracts to the following:

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0048
    Awardee: Heckler and Koch Defense Inc for HK UMP9 Sub Compact Weapon
    Amount: $10,850.00

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0049
    Awardee: Angstadt Arms Corporation for Angstadt UDP-9 Sub Compact Weapon
    Amount: $15,950.00

    Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0050
    Awardee: Noveske Corporation for Noveske Sub Compact Weapon
    Amount: $17,200.00

    These new awards bring the total spent on weapons for the SCW evaluations to $258,240. It remains unclear what the contract quantities are for each manufacturer as the value of the awards varries from as little as $8,500 to as much as $39,060. The notice states that the anticipated award date for the contracts is planned for July 2018.

    Sources:

    ‘Request for Information for Sub Compact Weapons’, FedBizOps, retrieved 08/05/18 from source

    ‘Synopsis of Contract Award’, FedBizOps, retrieved 16/06/18 from source

    https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/us-a...sman-rifle-in-september.563168/#post-10558617