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Piper

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US drones can fly around anywhere....in Pakistan

In reality No. While it might have been the case pre '11, things have changed. As of now the targets are sighted by Pakistanis for the most case. We got our guy and now the leftovers aren't enticing enough to piss off Pakistan.

I agree there is some difference in interpretation of value of threats, understandably Pakistan has different priority list than US but since our strategy in Afghanistan has changed more towards reconciliation than elimination we need a mediator to bring in the concerned parties to table and unsanctioned drone attacks aren't going to help matters.

Think about it logically - What can we do? The political directive is to get out of Afghanistan ASAP but at the same time it calls for some sort of stability so as to not leave a power vacuum like in Iraq which can be filled with groups like ISIS. So we are working towards creating some kind of a political solution but that will only happen if Taliban are willing to talk. Unlike us they aren't going anywhere, giving a tough fight to Afghans & can wait out US, so they have the leverage here.

Understanding this - we approach the guys who have leverage on Taliban - That is Pakistan. Now who has leverage on Pakistan? - China. So we bring in China too. There you have it - China, Pakistan, US, Afghanistan and Taliban meeting and keeping everyone in check.

Now of-course Indians won't like it - as they are left out but that is just the way game is played my friend. So make peace with it.

Now Pacific Command is altogether another story...
 
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pakistanis are not very excited about the latest induction of just 8 falcons. we have other options available this time and PAF is not starving for these jets now. But no one knows why indians are so much butt hurt. The protest launched by the indians was completely uncalled for and childish. It seems some immature keyboard indian warrior from PDF is calling the shots in indian govt.
 
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I think PAF should order 4 SU35s and sit back with popcorns and let India spend that $$$ trying to stop the sale. Russian might give them for free after reciving the amount of $$ from India that it will spend on stopping the deal. If you look at the figures you will see it costed India alot in $$ lobbying.Follow it up with EF and Raflale. Start a deal with France for 50 Rafales as a result Indians will be forced to buy the promised 120 of them or not time will tell. Free money boys.Congressmen fooled Indians and they fell for it lol. There is only one country on the planet who can get the worth of $$ spent lobbying in USA and that country is ISREAL.
 

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Useless buying wont increase anything in paf capability with similar jets we already have our mindset is stuck in 80s era and above all PAF always cry for funds this deal is too expansive easily got SU 35 in these funds
 

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Someone really want the deaths of poor 1 billions vegetarians, by creating these threads day after day :lol:

we are giving them after shocks hahahaha

for our Indian Posters :)

meri takleef ki kisi ko fikker nai
mere aansoon ki kisi ko qadar nai
meri tanhaayi pe kia hansta hai Aye Pakistani
Jis Minister ko nawaza mai ne , ab us ki koi khaber nai
 

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In reality No. While it might have been the case pre '11, things have changed. As of now the targets are sighted by Pakistanis for the most case. We got our guy and now the leftovers aren't enticing enough to piss off Pakistan.

I agree there is some difference in interpretation of value of threats, understandably Pakistan has different priority list than US but since our strategy in Afghanistan has changed more towards reconciliation than elimination we need a mediator to bring in the concerned parties to table and unsanctioned drone attacks aren't going to help matters.

Think about it logically - What can we do? The political directive is to get out of Afghanistan ASAP but at the same time it calls for some sort of stability so as to not leave a power vacuum like in Iraq which can be filled with groups like ISIS. So we are working towards creating some kind of a political solution but that will only happen if Taliban are willing to talk. Unlike us they aren't going anywhere, giving a tough fight to Afghans & can wait out US, so they have the leverage here.

Understanding this - we approach the guys who have leverage on Taliban - That is Pakistan. Now who has leverage on Pakistan? - China. So we bring in China too. There you have it - China, Pakistan, US, Afghanistan and Taliban meeting and keeping everyone in check.

Now of-course Indians won't like it - as they are left out but that is just the way game is played my friend. So make peace with it.

Now Pacific Command is altogether another story...

Add Russia in the equation too. They are worried about ISIS propagating into its underbelly. Central Asian states are vulnerable to this. Stumbling block however remains Iran. While ISIS may be a concern to them, their role remains dubious. They may like to play on Taliban-ISIS friction. It's all complicated.
 

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