I ain't uncouth, but your previous passive aggressiveness prior to your current outlandish behaviour has made me unamicable. I am not a racist, I don't hate anyone by mere virtue of their appearance and would not and have not violated any of the natural rights conferred by God on others as a whole or as individuals. You may throw out the racist card freely in the US to shame others in to submission, but the rest of the world isn't as pusillanimous. I like Sanskrit for the same reason I like other IE classics, their excellent grammatic and syntactic structure and the fact that they provide glimpses in to the past and the development of other IE tongues. Sanskrit was a language of the literary elite at its peak, but that does not imply that it carries prestige today. Once again, avoid twisting my words. It is true that a ton of Sanskrit literature is pagan, but that was true for most tongues before their speakers deployed them for monotheistic religions. Greek was once riddled with pagan literature, but is the liturgical tongue of the Greek Orthodox Church today. I ain't an ancestor worshipping bigot, on the contrary, I am a Muslim & probably a better one than you given your intellectual dishonesty.What a disgusting uncouth fellow to have a discussion. Your theories will never have any impact on actual world. And yes you are a racist too. On top of it a sanskrit lover (which is full of racist literature of castes for idol worshippers but a PRESTIGIOUS language to you) because you are an ancestor worshipping bigot( Except that you dont have any direct memory of your sanskrit speaking ancestors nor are you carrying any of their cultural legacy but, comically, is a speculative claim based on a theory of languages. )
You do realize that that "Pushtoon gentleman" is displaying the same bigotry that you libellously accuse me of below? It isn't surprising that you failed to see that. He is free to be proud of his mother tongue, but that does not negate the fact that Pakistan has and currently needs a national language. Besides, Urdu is one that evolved near our turf, has historicity among us, is related to Pakistan's ethnic tongues, is spoken by the masses, and inculcates a lexical base within its vicinity. I am however open to the idea of other languages including Farsi as being a good alternative. Interestingly enough, so is English. It's an IE tongue, its speaker base and internet presence is insurmountable and it is the de facto language of science, technology, and every other field out there.That pushtoon gentlemen is on far far solid ground than you ever will be with your theories. He knows his language and takes pride in his actual tongue and real heritage.
Dont you dare walk back on your racism. Let me quote what you said :
" Bengali, an IE tongue, evolved among a different race on the fringes of the Indo-Aryan speaking world and would never be acceptable to West Pakistan possibly because the implication would have been that a dark skinned people have managed to impose their tongue on a lighter skinned people despite it originating from a similar source. "
And you blame your words on "mindset" of millions of pakistanis. What twisted sophistry LOL.
Firstly, don't tell me what I can and cannot walk away from in that threatening tone. I can and always will make mistakes and shall always have the opportunity to correct those mistakes. Remember, we are debating on a forum and I ain't writing a religious edict, which requires precise evaluation of an idea before disbursement. Avoid that threatening tone simply because you've been spanked in the discussion so far. As for what I said, it is a mere statement of opinion that I have observed and garnered from the events as presented to me about the language dispute. Did you notice the use of the word "possibly" before the emboldened word "because"? That's because I am presenting an opinion and not explaining my feelings towards them.You start with a fools errand of "picking" a language based on 2000 year old theory and then make an even bigger fool of yourself by layering in fairskin/darkskin and twisted sophistry tying yourself in to knots. Even Zionists have better arguments than you, laying claim on Palestine based on their so called 2000 year history.
At the end of the day, had the Indo-Iranians not spread their tongues, Bengalis would have been speaking their pre-Indo-Iranian tongues. Funnily enough, most of the Caucasoid phenotypes in Bangladesh are a result of migration over the ages from the north-western regions of the sub-continent and that can be attested to even today. I don't look down on anyone else & I am acutely aware of the fact that if I were to fail to constantly improve myself; I would end up being surpassed by those who concerted greater efforts. Regardless, all of them are speaking an Indo-Iranian language and those among them descending from Punjabis and Pashtuns may find solace in that. In any case, languages gain prestige on the basis of the performance of their speakers and while you might find it humorous, it remains factual that plenty of Pakistanis retain bias towards other ethnic groups. You might want to try calling the average Pakistani an Indian and observe their response. Besides, products originating from China for instance were routinely deemed inferior before the Chinese launched their own homebrewn brands.
Furthermore, the reference to the lighter skinned and darker skinned people is a euphemism for the competition between civilizations and ethnic groups. I thought you would be smart enough to understand that but I guess attempts to sully me necessitate clutching at straws. The north western region of the sub-continent, especially Pakistan has decades of history uniquely its own and plenty of people, which includes a number of Pakistani nationalists, consider the region as an intermediary between the Iranic and Indic. Why on Earth would West Pakistan want Bengali as its national tongue when Urdu better inculcates their historical experience than one evolving on the peripheries of the Indo-Aryan speaking world? Remember, answers to complex problems aren't black or white, but rather derived from shades of grey. As branches of languages disperse, they evolve to fit the evolutionary experience of those that spoke them. Think of how English was impacted by the Norman invasion. As modern day English speakers, we can't directly relate to that the way an Englishman might, but that historical occurrence is the reason why we have such a latinized language on our hands.
In any case, Bengali was eventually recognized as an official language alongside Urdu in 1956 to the dismay of many in the west whose languages did not receive such recognition. Hell that actually makes those of us in the west seem less racist to your kind and creed. The founding fathers of Pakistan on the other hand saw a singular unifying tongue as important for the development of a young nation and the imprudent resentment of Bengalis is partly responsible for the east and west divide. What provinces should have demanded is better preservation and representation for their ethnic tongues, which includes the formation of scientific terminology desperately needed for adaptation to a rapidly developing world. As for me, I would have no qualms about learning any language if the need ever arose, an example of which would be an official visit to a particular country. I ain't arrogant enough to travel to someone else's land and then claim that I couldn't give two hoots about their native tongues. Besides, all knowledge springs from God and as His creation, I have the right to avail whatever of His knowledge I desire. However, that doesn't negate the fact that I have tribalistic tendencies, which serve an important purpose. The diversity of human languages and phenotypes is the result of tribalism.
All in all, I am personally more inclined to IE lingua francas and I find solace in the fact that they are IE tongues. It doesn't matter if say "three" instead of "theen", both of which spring from the same source. You on the other hand probably cry yourself to sleep, only to end up having nightmares about the disappearance of your minor IR tongue, and then tragicomically fall out of bed to discover that your eyelids have fused.
I despise the caste system, but the fools that praise it could have praised it in any language other than Sanskrit, if they had wanted to do so. Once again, you keep tossing out red herrings. I have never and shall never praise the caste system. All humans are just as capable and free to pursue a life they deem worthy without any societal stigma attached to their actions so long as their pursuits are virtuous and honorable. Far be it from me to relegate that humans are to be affixed to certain socioeconomic conditions, thereby stymying their ability to attain knowledge of the natural world or serving God. The caste system was a major hindrance to the development and progress of civilization, just as slavery was an impediment to the industrial evolution all the way back to the Roman era. As I said earlier, I am a devout Muslim and not an idol worshipper so shut the hell up and stop accusing people of paganism just because I said that Sanskrit is among the language of my forefathers and is an Indo-European language. How retarded are you?And no - no sanskrit work has been directly translated to Arabic. It is a shitty language(PRESTIGIOUS to you) full of idol worshipping and racist praises of caste system. No surprises it has such direct appeal to your heart.
All you do is attempt to hurl accusations and vociferous ad hominems. I know why that is, you've nothing left to say and conveniently ignored all of the other problems I highlighted in my previous post regarding the Pakistani education system. Actually, Sanskrit works have been translated directly in to Arabic by men like Al-Biruni, who incidentally, also spoke Greek and Persian, as far as I know. You might want to ponder over the fact that Urdu is a direct descendant of the Indo-Aryan tongues used by pagans. Hopefully, it keeps you up at night.
Pot and kettle.I had enough of you and your unpleasantness.