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Imtiaz Gul, who covers the foreign & strategic affairs had a discussion with his Chinese contacts after Pakistan was not invited to BRICS+ conference in June 2022. He discusses the current Chinese thinking about Pakistan. He also discusses Chinese stopping further underwriting of CPEC projects. There was also a mention of who has backed the appointment of Gen. Asim Bajwa as chairman of CPEC Authority.

There is also a bomb shell that I was not aware of that China has called back their Ambassador in Islamabad about 2 months ago, however it was not reported on any Pakistani news site.


Here is the discussion.
 
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Imtiaz Gul, who covers the foreign & strategic affairs had a discussion with his Chinese contacts after Pakistan was not invited to BRICS+ conference in June 2022. He discusses the current Chinese thinking about Pakistan. He also discusses Chinese stopping further underwriting of CPEC projects.

There is also a bomb shell that I was not aware of that China has called back their Ambassador in Islamabad about 2 months ago, however it was not reported on any Pakistani news site.


Here is the discussion.
China recalled its ambassador to Pakistan? Plz tell me your source.

At least on July 3, 2022, that is, yesterday, Chinese ambassador to Pakistan nongrong was still answering Chinese netizens' questions about the hotel explosion in Pakistan online.

On June 25, 2022, he was also interviewed by a reporter from the global times in Pakistan to talk about the agricultural cooperation between CPEC and Pakistan.

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Imtiaz Gul, who covers the foreign & strategic affairs had a discussion with his Chinese contacts after Pakistan was not invited to BRICS+ conference in June 2022. He discusses the current Chinese thinking about Pakistan. He also discusses Chinese stopping further underwriting of CPEC projects. There was also a mention who has backed the appointment of Gen. Assim Bajwa as chairman of CPEC Authority.

There is also a bomb shell that I was not aware of that China has called back their Ambassador in Islamabad about 2 months ago, however it was not reported on any Pakistani news site.


Here is the discussion.
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China recalled its ambassador to Pakistan? Plz tell me your source.

At least on July 3, 2022, that is, yesterday, Chinese ambassador to Pakistan nongrong was still answering Chinese netizens' questions about the hotel explosion in Pakistan online.

On June 25, 2022, he was also interviewed by a reporter from the global times in Pakistan to talk about the agricultural cooperation between CPEC and Pakistan.


According to this discussion, Chinese Ambassador is called back for 'training'. The affairs of Embassy is being handled by a female Chargé d'affaires. Your information may be different.
 

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According to this discussion, Chinese Ambassador is called back for 'training'. The affairs of Embassy is being handled by a female Chargé d'affaires. Your information may be different.
Nongrong is a nuclear physicist, he graduated from the Department of nuclear physics of Peking University.
In fact, he is really not suitable to serve as ambassador to Pakistan, the ambassador to Pakistan should focus on CPEC.
But Chinese media reports suggest that he should remain in Pakistan now.
 

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China recalled its ambassador to Pakistan? Plz tell me your source.

At least on July 3, 2022, that is, yesterday, Chinese ambassador to Pakistan nongrong was still answering Chinese netizens' questions about the hotel explosion in Pakistan online.

On June 25, 2022, he was also interviewed by a reporter from the global times in Pakistan to talk about the agricultural cooperation between CPEC and Pakistan.

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Thank you for posting with clarity. There is a silly campaign going on in Pakistan that tends to portray Pak-China relations from the lens of the former PTI government in that since the PTI government is no longer in power, the Chinese are pulling back and rethinking their relations with Pakistan. What is unfortunate is that party politics are taking a precedence over national interests in this tussle. For our keen-eyed Chinese friends, this should be understood that for the vast majority of Pakistanis and the establishment, China is a strategic ally.

The above campaign obviously does not reflect the reality which is that China-Pak relations are based on the understanding between the establishments within the two countries. All Pakistani governments, including the current one, are also fully vested in maintaining these ties with China. As such, Pakistan remains fully committed to its strategic relations with China despite efforts to disrupt (the attack on Chinese professors at the KU at the hands of Baloch nationalists etc.) notwithstanding.
 
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According to this discussion, Chinese Ambassador is called back for 'training'. The affairs of Embassy is being handled by a female Chargé d'affaires. Your information may be different.
Ambassadors may be recalled by host nations for discussions. Happens all the time including with ours in China, US and even India. To make a mountain out of a molehill is not in our interests as a country.
 

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Thank you for posting with clarity. There is a silly campaign going on in Pakistan that tends to portray Pak-China relations from the lens of the former PTI government in that since the PTI government is no longer in power, the Chinese are pulling back and rethinking their relations with Pakistan. What is unfortunate is that party politics are taking a preference over national interest in this tussle. For our keen-eyed Chinese friends, this should be understood that for the vast majority of Pakistanis and the establishment, China is a strategic ally.

This obviously is not true and does not reflect the reality which is that China-Pak relations are based on the understanding between the establishments within the two countries. All Pakistani governments, including the current one, are also fully vested in maintaining these ties with China. As such, Pakistan remains fully committed to its strategic relations with China despite efforts to disrupt (the attack on Chinese professors at the KU at the hands of Baloch nationalists etc.) notwithstanding.

Unfortunately, This forum is hotbed of all those "Loosers" who believes in personality cult of Imran Khan bigger than the interests of Pakistan.
@WebMaster with her pack adding and abating all these loosers on PDF and encourage them to promote i m the dim over Pakistan.
@WebMaster & Pack you people should immediately cease to use word Pakistan in the name of this forum and makes it "Imran Khan Defence forum", since you believes and acts a Pakistan which can go to hell without Imran Khan.

What discussion? How Bajwa sold Pakistan to America?

Phir vohi randi rona.....
 
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Unfortunately, This forum is hotbed of all those "Loosers" who believes in personality cult of Imran Khan bigger than the interests of Pakistan.
@WebMaster with her pack adding and abating all these loosers on PDF and encourage them to promote i m the dim over Pakistan.
@WebMaster & Pack you people should immediately cease to use word Pakistan in the name of this forum and makes it "Imran Khan Defence forum", since you believes and acts a Pakistan which can go to hell without Imran Khan.

You live happily in your Pakistan. Punjab and Sindh can continue to be part of Pakistan. PPP, PML-N and Bajwa are free to create their own little utopia called Pakistan.

At the end of the day, KPK, Balochistan and GB are going to demand more autonomy from Punjab and Sindh. Only a matter of time now.

Phir vohi randi rona.....

This is N league. The civilised N league. They cuss mothers and they have the backing of moderators on this forum. This is the Pakistan they want others to live in.

I won't even bother reporting you scumbag. I know you enjoy protection on this forum. I leave my case to Allah the Almighty. He will punish you in this life and hereafter in the worst possible manner. That is a curse straight from my heart.
 
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Unfortunately, This forum is hotbed of all those "Loosers" who believes in personality cult of Imran Khan bigger than the interests of Pakistan.
@WebMaster with her pack adding and abating all these loosers on PDF and encourage them to promote i m the dim over Pakistan.
@WebMaster & Pack you people should immediately cease to use word Pakistan in the name of this forum and makes it "Imran Khan Defence forum", since you believes and acts a Pakistan which can go to hell without Imran Khan.



Phir vohi randi rona.....Kisi kutti maa kay bachchay.
Woow...your lot still exist...did u make some money via the mafia that's installed by the yanks?
 

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Thank you for posting with clarity. There is a silly campaign going on in Pakistan that tends to portray Pak-China relations from the lens of the former PTI government in that since the PTI government is no longer in power, the Chinese are pulling back and rethinking their relations with Pakistan. What is unfortunate is that party politics are taking a preference over national interest in this tussle. For our keen-eyed Chinese friends, this should be understood that for the vast majority of Pakistanis and the establishment, China is a strategic ally.

The above campaign is obviously does not reflect the reality which is that China-Pak relations are based on the understanding between the establishments within the two countries. All Pakistani governments, including the current one, are also fully vested in maintaining these ties with China. As such, Pakistan remains fully committed to its strategic relations with China despite efforts to disrupt (the attack on Chinese professors at the KU at the hands of Baloch nationalists etc.) notwithstanding.
The strategic rethink on part of the Chinese, regarding PakMil is very real and not made up. It's proven to be an unstable and unreliable partner. The effects of which will be seen in the coming years, even more. BRI projects necessary for Chinese interests continue to be under-written, and sponsored - while those asked for by Gov of Pakistan will not be funded in the near term until the strategic rethink is complete.

The entire Chinese policy on how to continue in Pak is currently undergoing revamp.
 

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The strategic rethink on part of the Chinese, regarding PakMil is very real and not made up. It's proven to be an unstable and unreliable partner. The effects of which will be seen in the coming years, even more. BRI projects necessary for Chinese interests continue to be under-written, while those asked for by Gov of Pakistan will not be funded.

The entire Chinese strat on how to operate in Pakistan and how to continue to formulate ties with the nation, is currently being revamped.

China isn't crazy. Iran is China's A game. Pakistan is just a plan B.
 

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What discussion? How Bajwa sold Pakistan to America?
Despite the urge to simplify and keep on targeting the current CoAS, Pakistan has to maintain ties with both China and the US. This is not a zero sum game which is what IK had cornered Pakistan into with his ill-advised statements and inaction on some of the diplomatic fronts.

Pakistan has the following dependencies (not a comprehensive list but a starting point) on the US/West currently incase its lost on some people:

a) Budget deficit - IMF/WB support to ensure we can pay our import bill [China, Gulf will not support bi-lateral facilities unless the IMF has approved a plan for Pakistan to get its economy back on track, otherwise all these countries are worried that they are putting their money into a bottomless pit with no guarantees that they will see their loans getting serviced (paid back) by Pakistan.]
b) Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) dependencies - FATF progression to whitelist to ensure we can get open, uninterrupted FDI which is essential for the overall growth of the economy. Without this, we cannot grow the net-size of the economy.
c) EU GSP+ status
d) Alignment on Afghanistan
- Getting the West's support to help Afghanistan economically otherwise we have another massive economic basket case, along with our own to deal with.
e) Security alignment - Most of our major weapon systems are of US/Western origin and continued maintenance, upgrades and new acquisitions are tied with our ties to these countries. Case in point is that of Turkey having walked away from the US and then back to the US camp facing the reality that neither Russia, nor their own indigenous capabilities can fill the gap in the absence of US/Western weapons. Our situation is further complicated with the massive injection of western military technology finding its way into the Indian military.
f) Maintaining a semblance of ties with the US to ensure that they can be at least a broker (even if not a fair one) on the India/Kashmir situation. In the absence of the US, talks between Pak-India are not going to happen.

The strategic rethink on part of the Chinese, regarding PakMil is very real and not made up. It's proven to be an unstable and unreliable partner. The effects of which will be seen in the coming years, even more. BRI projects necessary for Chinese interests continue to be under-written, and sponsored - while those asked for by Gov of Pakistan will not be funded in the near term until the strategic rethink is complete.

The entire Chinese policy on how to continue in Pak is currently undergoing revamp.
They are well within their right to evaluate but nothing earth-shattering in this regard is happening. If anything, Pak-China will see even more focused alignment in the coming years given what else is happening around the region and specifically in the pacific.

Please elaborate on what you mean by "It's proven to be an unstable and unreliable partner" with facts!

I have seen the same being repeated a few times by you on this forum with nothing factual in support.
 
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