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United States Daesh Marine Corps: Threat Of The Next Decade

Discussion in 'Strategic & Foreign Affairs' started by Ahmet Pasha, Sep 11, 2019.

  1. Ahmet Pasha

    Ahmet Pasha SENIOR MEMBER

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    New Daesh (ISIS-K) made in Langley, Tel Aviv, Delhi and Kabul. A love child fathered by likes of Eric Prince, Bolton, Netanyahoo, Pompeo, Dhoval et al. Helicopter wali Daesh. Start of a new great game in the region. Peace in region is a far off dream now. Even more countries will plunge into war now. Especially Pakistan. THEY want Pakistan trapped in a war one way or another.

    Does this look like any other militia?? Wearing balaclavas, near SF gear and practising fire n move manoeuvres. They might even "capture" ANA hardware such as MRAPS, Helos and tanks etc etc. Like ISIS of Syria and Iraq. But the old daesh looked more like a mix of rag tag hillbillies from muslim world as compared to this new mutant/hybrid force.

    This looks more like some unit of USMC or a unit of JSOC.

    So it comes down to
    18 years Taliban guerilla warfare experience VS New Guerilla force with SF training.
    Who will win???


    Roughly first 20 minutes
    And yeah I know he's a bit of a coconut.
     
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  2. Ahmet Pasha

    Ahmet Pasha SENIOR MEMBER

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    In my view for Taliban to succeed. We should recognize Taliban and lend them CAS through our AirForce(could be COIN aircraft like K8 only) and artillery. Invite Russians and maybe even Turks to help out.
    If mutant daesh becomes successful it could mean A LOT of trouble for Pakistan, Russia, China and even Iran.

    Mind you alot of these vermin are HQed in Afghan provinces that border our North West and tribal agencies(Now KPK) and North and South Waziristan. Like Kunar, Nangarhar, Nuristan, Paktia and Paktika etc.

    So they could start trouble again in FATA(now KPK) before fencing is completed.
     
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    After 18 years of afghan war, everyone has finally realized that Airforce and artillery cannot work in Afghanistan.

    Its not a tea party

    I do have to agree with you on this one.
     
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  4. Ahmet Pasha

    Ahmet Pasha SENIOR MEMBER

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    We might have to organize one bcuz Russia successfully neutralized same vermin in Syria. And Turkey has also been quite successful in Euphrates Shield and Afrin Op.

    Russian security interests and Chinese business and security interests will directly be at risk.
     
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    @Ahmet Pasha keep it down damn you. you want the feds on your rear like pizza cheese?
     
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    Normally I don't listen or believe him but lets see what he is saying or trying to show us ..

    Apart from who bring Daesh from Syria and Iraq to Afghanistan is still a mystery ,and it can't be done without at least 1 powerful country dragging their fighters from War zones and putting them (conveniently) close to Pakistan borders . From the looks of it, They indeed looks very well trained and their body language is shouting that they are not been trained by some rag tag militia but a proper Army or SF group . If ISIS-K holds ground in Nanghar and Kunar which they pretty much did already it means trouble for Pakistan specially KPK and Baluchistan .

    What we as Pakistani should do ...
    1) We should support a group in Afghanistan who will keep an eye on ISIS and when possible eliminate its commanders or fighters .

    2) Finish those damn 475 forts as soon as possible, add 200-300 more along the border , Give them 20mm , Artillery , Tanks , Attack Helicopters and Armed drones .

    3) Kick Out Afghans ASAP cause this is where ISIS will get its recruits in Pakistan who will work as their sleeper cells .

    4) Eliminate any side line group like JuA , Hizb Ul Tehrir etc make sure their leaders are constantly targeted and killed by ISI or CTD .

    5) It is time to finally start Air raids in Afghanistan close to Border Areas , If Army or Air force can not do that than they don't deserve to be on their positions .

    6) Counter the RAW+NDS network through various means, disrupt their activities by any means necessary.

    7) Stationed big numbers of Army in those Former Agencies now KPK, raise more FC recruits from the Tribal Areas, Armed some of those Lashkers who are PRO Pakistan and ready to fight with FC/Army .

    8) Create a extensive Network of Spies in KPK Agencies and Afghanistan , make sure we know about their activities and plans .

    9) Involve Pakistani Media , make sure Army ask media to promote Nationalism and denounce any sectarian divide in Pakistan, Full coverage of ISIS and their terror activities , and make sure no one from Journalist community keep any kind of soft corner for ISIS or Taliban or any group .

    10) Restrict the Madarsas in Pakistan, know who is studying there what they are teaching , Cities like Karachi , Lahore , Islamabad , Peshawar , Rawalpindi needs extra security with extra intelligence gathering .

    11) Bring all National institutions in to the loop to have intelligence on suspected People and their activities such as Nadra , Telecommunications , Police , Local Mosques , etc

    12) We must improve the Gear and Equipment for our Police , bring in more well trained officers , give them better Guns , Vests , Armored Cars , Proper training from like SF , Keep Rangers on Stand-by for all major Cities.

    13) Keep a strict eye on Rural area because that is where mostly uneducated and extremists live and dwell in the dark corners , we gotta make sure that we don't have things like Junubi Punjab or Punjabi or Mahajir or Baloch Taliban kind of situation .

    14) Keep an eye on Every American , Afghan , British , Indian , Iranian , Emirati , Saudi , Qatari where they go , who they meet , where they are investing , whom they are in contacts with etc .

    15) Make sure we dedicate one whole department from the ISI to make sure that People from educated class such as Journalists , Lawyers , Judges , Military personnel , Civil Authority , etc are constantly monitored and keep them in check, anyone who shows the signs of been Radicalized should be instantly taken care of by hook or by crook .

    its kinda scary that the way he talk about America and supporting Taliban ... Dude might get into trouble for such posts , I hope he don't say anything that attracts the attention of FBI on him, they might be watching him or his family which is kinda scary thing to even imagine .
     
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    CENTCOM publicly states that they pop up on forums just as part of a de-radicalization effort. If you look around and take some hints their real purpose to show up on platforms related to the war on terror is much more invasive.
     
  8. Ahmet Pasha

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    I said Pakistan should recognize them. Just like Qatar has done. Nothing more nothing less. Just discussing geo-strategic affairs. There's millions of people like Alex Jones saying stuff against America all the time.

    They made their attempts. Let's just say honey trapping is not only common in Indo-Pak.

    Bro do you have anything valuable to add to the discussion??

    Besides nothing I posted implies my own radicalisation but only the moves being made on the chess board.
    In number 15 do you mean something like Patriot act??
     
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    I think its not a bad idea, if fact some posts i red on PDF, if i was CENTCOM or ISI these posters would have been under my watch or a Black SUV would have been parked outside their homes 24/7 .

    Alex Jones is White you probably not , so he will get away with anything ... Black , Latino or Muslims get jail time for less ..

    Not necessarily but yes .
     
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    Pakistan, Russia, China and Even Iran has to work together to defeat the Black water Daesh.
     
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    No one can deny CIA role of backing isis
     
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    They are switching to the El Salvador model , death squads eliminating opponents to weaken the resistance. using all tactics at their disposal.
     
  13. Ahmet Pasha

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    Seems like this new mutant is still in it's training phases. Whether they really switch to El Salvadore model remains to be seen.
    This could be the very reason why US deep state and hawk like Bolton and Pompeo didn't want a withdrawal from Afghanistan. This might be the very last card US deep state had up it's sleeve.

    But I feel instead of US getting a somewhat honorable peace, now just might get a bloody exit.
    If I were PA or ISI I would step up the artillery, drone and air strikes on Daesh-K targets in Kunar, Nangarhar, Nooristan, Paktia, Paktika etc.

    Nip the evil in the bud before the cancer spreads.
     
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    Modern-era journalism is a business of sensationalism and conspiracies, to attract viewership. Dr. Shahid Masood is not an exception to this norm.

    How ISIS-K emerged in Afghanistan, who became a part of this movement, and its leaders - all of this information is in the public domain and accessible.

    Secondly, insurgency of Afghan Taliban have made it impractical for the US-backed Afghan government to defeat ISIS-K, and this is one of the reasons why Trump administration sought counterterrorism assurances from Afghan Taliban and intra-Afghan dialogue to succeed.

    As for those who think that Russia and Iran were at the forefront of the fight against ISIS in the Middle East, you guys are absolutely blinded by their propaganda. Educate yourself: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/how-...on-by-us-al-qaeda.634624/page-2#post-11757895

    Who is training Afghan Taliban then?

    ISIS-K is a splinter group of (former) Afghan Taliban, TTP and Al-Qaeda Network. They are well-trained on average, and have held their ground in Nangarhar inspite of counterterrorism operations of US and US-backed Afghan government in this sector. Even Afghan Taliban have attempted to comb this sector, to no avail.

    This is why intra-Afghan dialogue must succeed because numerous Afghans and scum have gravitated towards ISIS-K lately.
     
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    And who ends the dialogue and for what we all know usa cant win a war in afghanistan so they start to arm insurgent in order to destabilized region due to their love with pak china and russia and isis is a great tool for their dirty game.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...nhanced-weapons-syria-terrorism-a8112076.html