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Ukrainians offer comprehensive Arjun upgrade, FMBT, FICV, etc.

Abingdonboy

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Non-starter. Both FICV and FMBT will be largely in-house products (Indian). An off the shelf purchase is not going to happen.

The Ukrainians or whomever can propose what they like, will make no difference whatsoever.
 

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STOP THIS IMPORTING................

STOP COMMISSIONS FOR CONGRESS....

WE HAVE AMPLE BRAIN TO MAKE GOOD TANKS

STOP THIS IMPORTING................

STOP COMMISSIONS FOR CONGRESS....

WE HAVE AMPLE BRAIN TO MAKE GOOD TANKS
 

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Non-starter. Both FICV and FMBT will be largely in-house products (Indian). An off the shelf purchase is not going to happen.

The Ukrainians or whomever can propose what they like, will make no difference whatsoever.

Ukranians can however, partner up with a L&T, TATA, Ashok Leyland, etc.

But yes, it's not going to buy off the shelf purchases, knocked down kit round about.
 

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Ukranians can however, partner up with a L&T, TATA, Ashok Leyland, etc.

But yes, it's not going to buy off the shelf purchases, knocked down kit round about.
Even then I don't think the military will choose to go with Ukrainian stuff for frontline equipment.
 

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Ukraine can really turn around Arjun if they are given the opportunity.
it has already turned around. Ukraine just produces good ERA and engines(which we already have from MTU and HEMRL).Their electronics and fire control are not the best in the world where as IRDE can collaborate with elbit and sagem,VEM(india),BEL to produce better optics,BMS,self protection suites.The mk2 arjun already has world class ERA,optics,self protection, engines,transmission,firepower.How can ukraine contribute better.
 

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it has already turned around. Ukraine just produces good ERA and engines(which we already have from MTU and HEMRL).Their electronics and fire control are not the best in the world where as IRDE can collaborate with elbit and sagem,VEM(india),BEL to produce better optics,BMS,self protection suites.The mk2 arjun already has world class ERA,optics,self protection, engines,transmission,firepower.How can ukraine contribute better.
Exactly. Ukraine can probably sell stuff to countries which cannot afford costly Western/Israeli products,
and don't have access to Russian ones.
 

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Ukraine can really turn around Arjun if they are given the opportunity.
"turn it around"? Sir, this is a pretty ignorant comment, it implies the Arjun is a flop and is riddled with flaws. This is simply not the case, most of the issues have been addressed and the Arjun Mk.2 is arguable one of the more potent MBTs available today....
 

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I think Ukraine is doing India a favour by at least giving them another option. They took they time to assess our needs and did their best to meet them. This should be appreciated. That doesnt mean we need to buy their products but who knows, maybe we could get TOT from them. They are ahead of us in armoured vehicle design and production. They are also more willing to transfer tech than even Russia.
 

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