• Wednesday, December 13, 2017

Ukraine starts liquidation of legendary aircraft manufacturer Antonov

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  1. HAIDER

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    The government has ordered Deputy Economic Development and Trade Minister Yury Brovchenko to head the commission and ensure that within two months "the implementation of measures related to the liquidation of the concern," and to pay off the creditors of the enterprise.

    According to a decree published on the official website of the Ukrainian government, the commission “should submit within three months the liquidation balance sheet” to the Cabinet of Ministers.

    Ukraine's government decided to wind up the state-owned company last year after forcing Antonov to sever its contract with Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation (UAC). The decision was announced by former Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk, which Moscow described as political. All the Ukrainian-Russian projects were frozen.

    Antonov and UAC signed a deal to form a joint company in 2010. They agreed to cooperate in marketing, sales, design, and production of military, civilian and cargo aircraft as well as modifying new Antonov airplanes.

    Ukraine ends aircraft cooperation with Russia http://t.co/gSZstu4W4tpic.twitter.com/ex1qlMhwbR

    — RT (@RT_com) September 15, 2015
    Established in Novosibirsk in 1946 as a top-secret Soviet aviation design and research bureau, Antonov relocated to Kiev in 1952. It manufactured passenger, cargo, and special purpose aircraft.

    Among the company's best-known aircraft are the giant An-124 Ruslan and An-225 Mriya cargo planes. The world's largest airplane An-225 was built to carry the Soviet Buran shuttle orbiter.
    https://www.rt.com/business/397547-ukraine-antonov-company-liquidation/
     
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  2. Hassan Guy

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    End of an era.
     
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    Aasimkhan FULL MEMBER

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    I feel sad. Antanov was a myth, something larger than life. Something huge, something enshrouded in mystery.
     
  4. Lord Of Gondor

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    Sad end.
    The IAF has had a good 50+ year relationship with the company:
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    Cutting the ties with Russia means no more AN-124 production revieval
    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/an-124-nears-production-revival-394533/

    But, what about this then:
    http://www.janes.com/article/63341/china-and-ukraine-agree-to-restart-an-225-production
    http://aircargoworld.com/will-an-enigmatic-hong-kong-company-restart-the-an-225-in-china/

    Also, be carefull in what exactly is being liquidated at this time. We've seen tricky news on this before:

    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/ar...-keystone-of-new-ukrainian-aircraft-corp.html

    See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov#Independent_Ukraine
     
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    What about there licensed designed and R&D?
    Can we purchase there production lines and licensed aircraft designed?
     
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    Maybe Pakistan should invite Ukrainian delegates if it useful and feasible for our aviation industry and they're also interested.
     
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    I think China has already crossed Ukrainian aviation technology. We should focus on R&D with China.
     
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    Hmm, this depends on how much tech we can produce under licence but like I said we should only try if is useful and feasible for our aviation industry. In my personal view, Pakistan should focus hiring talent for own R&D instead.
     
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    Yep. Antonov the company was ended last year, but the design and manufacturing arms were absorbed by UkroBoronProm. UkroBoronProm is now gutting the administrative parts of Antonov (i.e. liquidating stickers, couches and coffee makers), retaining just the brand, design, R&D and manufacturing sites. UkroBoronProm will basically be making planes, but marketing them using the Antonov brand.
     
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    What about Antonov Airlines, the Ukrainian cargo airline and a division of the Antonov aviation company? The company owns the sole Antonov An-225, the world's largest operational cargo aircraft and the only one ever completed, as well as seven AN-124.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_Airlines
     
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    It beats me why India cannot purchase Antonov, factories and intellectual property for few hundred millions
     
  13. jhungary

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    liquidation of a company can mean a lot of thing, one, and only one of them mean putting them out of business. They may have simply folding it into one of the other State Business. Or they simply try to keep the Brand Antonov but do not want to keep a bunch of production line (Much like the case of Hungry Jack and Burger King in Australia) elsewhere. Or they are simply looking to trim the production line.

    either way, buying Antonov would mean you will get the people working for Antonov and the actual machine from the production line (as well as factory and so on) but you will not get the design Patent from Antonov, those are usually negotiate separately. Like in the US, if someone bought Colt Inc, they do automatically hold the pattern on M4, you will need to go negotiate the right with US Government, which co-own M4 pattern with Colt.
     
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    at least in America a company owns R&D and all the rights to manufacture
    that is what you get when you own a company.

    buying a company on the bankruptcy does not get you everything
     
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    It's the same everywhere, not just in America.

    Yes, buying an company in America will get you their R&D department, but all you get is the people that working for that R&D department, they education and expertise, they cannot transfer the technology from their previous employee to you, that's illegal in corporate law...

    Say you want to start making An-124 in India after you bought Antonov, you will still need to pay for the license to whoever hold the patent, in this case, UkroBoronProm, buying Antonov would mean you get the people who make these plane, but not the authorisation or technology to make those plane.
     
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