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Ukraine is about to be added to NATO as the recent NATO meeting resulted in no vetoes against them and what this means

Titanium100

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You are not far away from the Russian liveable main-land if you are in Ukraine that is like super close forward base.
Few kilometers outside of Donbas is Stalingaard didn't even know this and if stalingaard was to be overrun the moral could tank
 

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Since Russia's Peter I attacked Persia in 1722, Russians have been dreaming of a warm water port in the Indian Ocean for 500 years.
warm water port for what ??
those days are over
Few kilometers outside of Donbas is Stalingaard didn't even know this and if stalingaard was to be overrun the moral could tank
If Wehrmacht started Operation Barbarossa from the Ukranian-Russian border they would have conquered Stalingrad and Moscow in the first 3 months
 

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Do you mean the reason gas price hike by Russia? And going away from the Dollar? Could be both or perhaps it could be because of the excercises they did with China of the Japanese coast who knows or it could simply be because of Ukraine I lean towards the later which is Ukraine and baltic states
It has nothing to do with the China-Russian joint fleet. The action of the fleet in the sea of Japan is obviously led by China, if NATO wants to fight back, Europe should go to China for trouble, not Russia. I think there may be some changes in Ukraine or the war situation, which needs the direct support of NATO.
 

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Just being real with you and frank off the record. forget NATO only even EU could trample on Russia hack forget even EU just France, Britain, Germany and Spain would be enough to rollover the so-called bear. There is so much hype surrounding Russia the only state of the art impressive thing Russia has is the nuclear stockpile really other than that it doesn't compare to these countries in the other conventional aspects
Russian power is hidden in size, number and their nature. For Pakistan its no problem, but for Europe, this is a problem.
 

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warm water port for what ??
those days are over
If the Pakistani govt invites Russia to take a stake in Gwadar Port and allows the Russians to use CEPC and the business channel to Afghanistan, I think the Russians will not hesitate to abandon India.
Moreover, the relationship between Pakistan and USA is likely to deteriorate gradually, which will make China have too much influence on Pakistan. Why does the Pakistani govt not consider using Russia to balance China's influence?

Maybe you don't believe that Russia is India's most important ally, not USA. India can lose the support of USA, but it cannot lose the support of Russia.
 

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If the Pakistani govt invites Russia to take a stake in Gwadar Port and allows the Russians to use CEPC and the business channel to Afghanistan, I think the Russians will not hesitate to abandon India.
Moreover, the relationship between Pakistan and USA is likely to deteriorate gradually, which will make China have too much influence on Pakistan. Why does the Pakistani govt not consider using Russia to balance China's influence?

Maybe you don't believe that Russia is India's most important ally, not USA. India can lose the support of USA, but it cannot lose the support of Russia.
You dodged my question:
warm water port for what ??
Thanks God you are not Putin. Otherwise russia might be stinking by now. :lol:

As once a wise man said: Europe is trying to poke Russia bear with stick. At least while Germany is in Nato, I was not expecting such ove from Europe. At least Germany should stay away from such moves, because after Poland, Germany might be the first stop for the Russian Bear.
So atleast someone should smell the danger.
Russian bear could not conquer Georgia or Ukraine. why would Germany be scared ?
 

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If ukrain is given NATO membership then things will become really interesting. It will increase value of Turkey as a member, dnt listen to what greek morons have to say. This will also push Russia and china much closer.
 

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Ukraine used to be 2nd most powerful country in USSR and is former Kievan Rus capital of Rus. If I were Putin I'd be crappy my pants right about now.
Why? Is Ukraine going to threaten Russia with thousands of thermonuclear weapons or something?

The last county that got too cocky with Russia (with NATO backing), ended up being dismembered into three and NATO just stood there, not even daring to condemn Russia until it was all over.


And, how exactly did NATO stop Russia when it flew fighter jets straight into Syria and obliterated all Western backed groups there?
 

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Ukraine used to be 2nd most powerful country in USSR and is former Kievan Rus capital of Rus. If I were Putin I'd be crappy my pants right about now.
oh you can still crap in your pants, no need to be Putin
Didn't Russia lost in Afghanistan as well?


Russia going to invade and try to take all of Ukraine before it could become part of NATO?
yes they did, one country Vs. Taliban, or 40 countries Vs. Taliban...which one is a bigger shame
 

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yes they did, one country Vs. Taliban, or 40 countries Vs. Taliban...which one is a bigger shame
Let me make some addition - one country Vs. Taliban + Western support, or 40 countries Vs. Taliban
 

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If ukrain is given NATO membership then things will become really interesting. It will increase value of Turkey as a member, dnt listen to what greek morons have to say. This will also push Russia and china much closer.
What does Greece and Turkey have to do with this now?
 

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What does Greece and Turkey have to do with this now?
Turkey acts as NATO frontline against Russia. It is the strongest NATO member in the area. Giving ukrain membership would mean Russia becoming more aggressive and thus enhancing Turkish value in the alliance. Greece has nothing to do with it and is not that relevant. I mentioned greeks because they give impression of Turkey being irrelevant which is only true for greece.
 

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