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Uganda plans 'Kill the Gays' bill imposing death penalty for gay sex

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  1. Jyotish

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    Uganda plans bill imposing death penalty for gay sex

    Nita Bhalla

    OCTOBER 10, 2019

    NAIROBI (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Uganda announced plans on Thursday for a bill that would impose the death penalty on homosexuals, saying the legislation would curb a rise in unnatural sex in the east African nation.

    The bill - colloquially known as “Kill the Gays” in Uganda - was nullified five years ago on a technicality and the government said it plans to resurrect it within weeks.

    “Homosexuality is not natural to Ugandans, but there has been a massive recruitment by gay people in schools, and especially among the youth, where they are promoting the falsehood that people are born like that,” Ethics and Integrity Minister Simon Lokodo told the Thomson Reuters Foundation.

    “Our current penal law is limited. It only criminalises the act. We want it made clear that anyone who is even involved in promotion and recruitment has to be criminalised. Those that do grave acts will be given the death sentence.”

    African countries have some of the world’s most prohibitive laws governing homosexuality. Same-sex relationships are considered taboo and gay sex is a crime across most of the continent, with punishments ranging from imprisonment to death.

    Earlier this year, Brunei sparked international outcry over plans to impose the death penalty for gay sex, backtracking only after intense criticism.

    Now Uganda wants to follow suit.

    Lokodo said the bill, which is supported by President Yoweri Museveni, will be re-introduced in parliament in the coming weeks and is expected to be voted on before the end of the year.

    He was optimistic it would pass with the necessary two-thirds of members present - a shortfall in numbers killed a similar bill in 2014 - as the government had lobbied legislators ahead of its re-introduction, Lokodo added.

    “We have been talking to the MPs and we have mobilised them in big numbers,” said Lokodo. “Many are supportive.”

    Uganda’s constitutional court overturned the law - formerly known as the “Kill the Gays” bill because it includes the death penalty - on a technicality in 2014.

    Even without it, Uganda is one of the hardest countries in Africa to be a sexual minority. Under British colonial law, gay sex is punishable with up to life imprisonment and activists said the new bill risked unleashing attacks.

    “Bringing back anti-gay legislation would invariably lead to a spike in discrimination and atrocities,” said Zahra Mohamed of the Toronto-based charity Stephen Lewis Foundation.

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    Moves to restrict LGBT+ rights and criminalise gay sex in other countries have sparked protests and sanctions.

    In May, Brunei was forced to extend a moratorium on the death penalty for gay sex after celebrities such as actor George Clooney condemned a law allowing whipping and stoning to death.

    Last November, anti-gay remarks by a senior official in Tanzania led to the east African nation’s second biggest donor, Denmark, withholding $10 million in aid.

    Uganda faced widespread international condemnation when the previous bill was signed off by Museveni in 2014.

    The United States reduced aid, imposed visa restrictions and cancelled military exercises. The World Bank, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and the Netherlands also suspended or redirected aid.

    Lokodo said Uganda was prepared for any negative response.

    “It is a concern,” he said.

    “But we are ready. We don’t like blackmailing. Much as we know that this is going to irritate our supporters in budget and governance, we can’t just bend our heads and bow before people who want to impose a culture which is foreign to us.”

    Pepe Julian Onziema from Sexual Minorities Uganda, an alliance of LGBT+ organisations, said its members were fearful.

    “When the law was introduced last time, it whipped up homophobic sentiment and hate crimes,” said Onziema.

    “Hundreds of LGBT+ people have been forced to leave the country as refugees and more will follow if this law is enacted. It will criminalise us from even advocated for LGBT+ rights, let alone supporting and protecting sexual minorities.”

    Onziema said three gay men and one transgender woman had been killed in homophobic attacks in Uganda this year - the latest last week when a gay man was bludgeoned to death.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...osing-death-penalty-for-gay-sex-idUSKBN1WP1GN
     
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    Now watch how the libtards go apeshit.
     
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    Not every nation sells out due to fear.
     
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    Im not a liberal but I disagree, their lifestyle choices should be punished by Allah not human beings.

    Its not like they execute straight people for zina, so whats the difference?
     
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    Its not the law in most Islamic countries including Pakistan
     
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    gannd banging population reduction.
     
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    Right but its stupid to execute people for zina. In the same way its stupid to cut someones hand off for thieving and stoning someone for being raped (they get accused of adultery). These kind of laws were necessary in the past to maintain order, but human society has evolved so much since then and the punishments have too.

    I believe that only if their actions affect the rest of society (like sex offenders, or public indecency) should the society be allowed to take action, otherwise let them live as they are as Allah will judge them in the afterlife.
     
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    Way to go uganda
     
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    Poor countries tend to be backward.
    GDP per capita tends to have a good correlation with progressive attitudes.
     
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    But Quran also says that if a Muslim convert reverts back to idolatry etc, should be killed. What kind of modern punishment do you recommend in this regard?
     
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    There are plenty of people in the developed world who don't approve gay marriage etc. In fact there is a lot opposition and discrimination against LGBT community in a fairly liberal country like The Netherlands. What would you say to that?
     
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    It has recently gained acceptance in the developed world. So widespread tolerance will take some time.

    (P. S. I don't even think it is genetic. But people deserve a choice, as long as they are not hurting anyone.)
     
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    Gays don't even identify themselves that easily. They are ridiculed in football stadiums and by the society at large. This is not encouraging as you claim.
     
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    As long as they are not killed, imprisoned, or physically beaten up, it should be fine.
    Being ridiculed is not a big deal, a lot of other folks go through that.

    Empathy seems like a function of prosperity too. Upper classes are less likely to attack others for their choices, unlike someone from a hood/slum/ghetto.