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Milley defends calls to Chinese as effort to avoid conflict
The top U.S. military officer is defending his phone calls to his Chinese counterpart during the final months of Donald Trump's presidency as an effort to avoid misunderstandings and conflict
By JONATHAN LEMIRE and ROBERT BURNS Associated Press
16 September 2021, 20:28


WASHINGTON -- The top U.S. military officer on Wednesday defended the phone calls he made to his Chinese counterpart in the turbulent final months of Donald Trump's presidency, saying the conversations were intended to convey “reassurance” to the Chinese military and were in line with his responsibilities as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Some in Congress accused Gen. Mark Milley of having overstepped his authority and urged President Joe Biden to fire him, but Biden indicated Wednesday he stands behind Milley.

“I have great confidence in Gen. Milley,” Biden said when asked by a reporter whether Milley had done the right thing.

In a written statement, Milley's spokesman, Col. Dave Butler, said Milley acted within his authority as the most senior uniformed adviser to the president and to the secretary of defense.

“His calls with the Chinese and others in October and January were in keeping with these duties and responsibilities conveying reassurance in order to maintain strategic stability,” Butler said. “All calls from the chairman to his counterparts, including those reported, are staffed, coordinated and communicated with the Department of Defense and the interagency.”

The Milley phone calls were described in excerpts from the forthcoming book “Peril” by Washington Post journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa. The book says Milley told Gen. Li Zuocheng of the People’s Liberation Army that he would warn his counterpart in the event of a U.S. attack.

Milley was appointed chairman of the Joint Chiefs in 2019 by Trump and kept on by Biden. In that position Milley does not command any troops but rather is an adviser to the president and to the secretary of defense. John Kirby, spokesman for Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, said Austin has “complete and utter trust and confidence in Gen. Milley.”

The book by Woodward and Costa reported that Milley, fearful of Trump's actions in his final weeks as president, twice called his Chinese counterpart to assure him that the United States was not going to attack China. One call took place on Oct. 30, 2020, four days before the election that Trump lost. The second call was on Jan. 8, 2021, less than two weeks before Biden's inauguration and just two days after the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol by supporters of Trump.


The Associated Press obtained a copy of the book. Details from the book, which is set to be released next week, were first reported by The Washington Post on Tuesday.

“General Li, I want to assure you that the American government is stable and everything is going to be okay,” Milley told him in the first call, according to the book. “We are not going to attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you.”

“If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise," Milley reportedly said.

In his statement Wednesday, Milley's spokesman did not directly address this aspect of the call but said Milley regularly communicates with his counterparts across the globe, including in China and Russia, to reduce tensions, provide clarity and avoid “unintended consequences or conflict.”

Milley spoke with a number of other military leaders around the world after the Jan. 6 riot, including from the United Kingdom, Russia and Pakistan. A readout of those calls in January referred to “several” other counterparts that he spoke to with similar messages of reassurance that the U.S. government was strong and in control.

The second call was meant to placate Chinese fears about the events of Jan. 6. But the book reports that Li wasn’t as easily assuaged, even after Milley promised him: “We are 100 percent steady. Everything’s fine. But democracy can be sloppy sometimes.”

On Tuesday, Trump said Milley should be tried for treason if it was true that he had promised Li that he would warn him in the event of a U.S. attack. In a follow-up statement Wednesday, Trump called Milley “a complete nutjob” and said he “never told me about calls being made to China.”

“He put our Country in a very dangerous position but President Xi knows better, and would’ve called me,” Trump added.

Milley believed the president suffered a mental decline after the election, agreeing with a view shared by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in a phone call they had Jan. 8, according to officials. Milley also asked senior officers to swear an “oath” that Milley had to be involved if Trump gave an order to launch nuclear weapons, according to the book.

In the statement Wednesday, Milley's spokesman said Milley had conferred with the senior officers about nuclear weapons protocols “to remind uniformed leaders in the Pentagon of the long-established and robust procedures in light of media reporting on the subject.” Butler, the spokesman, appeared to be referring to news reports of the Jan. 8 Milley-Pelosi phone call. Butler did not address whether Milley had insisted he be part of the nuclear weapons procedures.

Pelosi had previously said she spoke to Milley that day about “available precautions” to prevent Trump from initiating military action or ordering a nuclear launch, and she told colleagues she was given unspecified assurances that there were longstanding safeguards in place.

Milley, according to the book, called the admiral overseeing the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, the military unit responsible for Asia and the Pacific region, and recommended postponing upcoming military exercises.

It's not clear what, if any, military exercises were actually postponed. But defense officials said it is more likely that the military postponed a planned operation, such as a freedom of navigation transit by a U.S. Navy ship in the Pacific region. The defense officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

In response to the book, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., sent Biden a letter Tuesday urging him to fire Milley, saying the general worked to “actively undermine the sitting Commander in Chief.”

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, called the report “deeply concerning,” telling reporters at the Capitol, “I think the first step is for General Milley to answer the question as to what exactly he said.”

Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said he had no concerns that Milley might have exceeded his authority, telling reporters that Democratic lawmakers “were circumspect in our language but many of us made it clear that we were counting on him to avoid the disaster which we knew could happen at any moment.”

US media is playing political partisanship and making unnecessary hue and cry over this call.
 

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China is The Largest Manufacturing Country on Earth. Everything is Made in China factories.


Imagine, if China Factories switch to Wartime Production.

China's Electronic Component Factories going to produce Ammunition & Rifles
China's Smartphones Factories going to produce Missiles
China's Car Factories going to produce Tank & Armored Vehicles
China's Aviation Industry going to produce Fighter Jets & Bomber
and All Chinese Shipyards going to produce Warships & Aircraft Carrier

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Yes, but much of it is shoes, zippers and Happy Meal toys. :D
Don't be bitter, its not a good look. But I want to thank Milley for intervening in civilian affairs for the good of everybody. The US is truly a declining power. Thank God.
 

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So these were the touted Checks and Balances of US Democracy eh ... just like the assassination of JFK by CIA!

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China is The Largest Manufacturing Country on Earth. Everything is Made in China factories.


Imagine, if China Factories switch to Wartime Production.

China's Electronic Component Factories going to produce Ammunition & Rifles
China's Smartphones Factories going to produce Missiles
China's Car Factories going to produce Tank & Armored Vehicles
China's Aviation Industry going to produce Fighter Jets & Bomber
and All Chinese Shipyards going to produce Warships & Aircraft Carrier

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It's not a matter of this industry or company producing a certain type of arms. But is their an effective plan in place already, are blueprints for arms already in possession of the companies and the retooling capabilities there or not.

The US and Europe going through WWI and WWII have an edge in this, and not to forget Europe, Australia, etc.
 

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So these were the touted Checks and Balances of US Democracy eh ... just like the assassination of JFK by CIA!

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Touted? They worked very effectively. Trump, just like any other US President, was never a King, even though he may have wanted to act like one.

What Gen Milley said to his officers was this: "No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I'm part of that procedure," What this shows is that no matter how much any US President may like to think he is a King, he is still subject to a robust system of checks and balances, and cannot bypass due processes and procedures. He just could not declare war by himself, just as he could not deny the results of the elections that resulted in the orderly transfer of power, just like due process says it should happen.

But of course you are too blind to see what actually happened, and would rather given in to your worst prejudices. That is obviously not my problem, but yours to remove.
 

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U.S. top general secretly called China over fears Trump could spark war
September 15, 2021



WASHINGTON, Sept 14 (Reuters) - The top U.S. general secretly called his Chinese counterpart twice over concerns then-President Donald Trump could spark a war with China as his potential election loss loomed and in its aftermath, the Washington Post reported on Tuesday.

U.S. General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called General Li Zuocheng of the People’s Liberation Army on Oct. 30, 2020 - four days before the election - and again on Jan. 8, two days after Trump supporters led a deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol, the newspaper reported.

In the calls, Milley sought to assure Li the United States was stable and not going to attack and, if there were to be an attack, he would alert his counterpart ahead of time, the report said.

The report was based on "Peril," a new book by journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, which they said relied on interviews with 200 sources and is due to be released next week.

Trump, in a statement, cast doubt in the story, calling it "fabricated." He said if the story was true Milley should be tried for treason. "For the record, I never even thought of attacking China," Trump said.

Milley's office declined to comment.

Republican Senator Marco Rubio called on President Joe Biden, a Democrat, to immediately fire Milley.

“I do not need to tell of you the dangers posed by senior military officers leaking classified information on US military operations, but I will underscore that such subversion undermines the President’s ability to negotiate and leverage one of this nation’s instruments of national power in his interactions with foreign nations,” Mr Rubio said in a letter to Mr Biden.

Asked about the report by reporters travelling with President Joe Biden aboard Air Force One, White House spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre declined to comment and referred them to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Defense Department.

The Republican Trump named Milley to the top military post in 2018 but began criticising him, as he has other appointees and former staffers, after losing the November election to Democrat Joe Biden and left the White House on Jan 20.

Milley was motivated to contact Beijing the second time in part due to a Jan 8 call with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who had asked the general what safeguards were in place to prevent an "unstable president" from launching a nuclear strike, the report said, citing a transcript of the call.

"He's crazy. You know he's crazy," Pelosi told Milley in the call, according to the report.

According to the cited call transcript, the general replied, "I agree with you on everything."

 

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Someone said someone said.

The U.S. population is looking for a scapegoat after realizing they have been had in Afghanistan, paying billions in taxes to U.S. lobbyists for absolutely nothing and U.S. nationalist are fuming over a shamefull end to their occupation. U.S. media mouthpieces are just hyping this gossip up to misdirect this puplic anger and attention from Afghanistan towards more "useful" hate against China.

Until Chinese counterparts or Chinas FM confirmed this, nothing happend. U.S. media and U.S. state officials are not reliable and trustworthy sources for anything.
I agree but let's say for the sake of argument it's true, what the F do these Amreekans think they can attack a formidable super power and survive.. having said that you are 100% right the idiots know better that they are only good for atacking poor helpless counties and get away with it. F...ing with countries like China or Russia they know what they are in for.
 

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