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  1. Ghareeb_Da_Baal

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    Washington (AFP) - The US Supreme Court made same-sex marriage legal throughout the nation Friday in a much-awaited landmark decision that triggered wild jubilation and tears of joy.


    In a 5-4 ruling, the highest court in the United States said the Constitution requires all 50 states to carry out and recognize marriage between people of the same sex.

    President Barack Obama, in heartfelt remarks, praised the ruling as "a victory for America." The court decision marked a fresh coup for the White House, coming a day after the Supreme Court upheld an important and disputed section of the president's signature health care reform.

    "Today we can say in no uncertain terms that we've made our union a little more perfect," Obama said at the White House, which changed its Twitter avatar to the rainbow colors of the growing gay rights movement.

    "This decision affirms what millions of Americans already believe in their hearts -- when all Americans are treated as equal, we are all more free."

    It also made the United States the 21st country or territory in the world that recognizes same-sex marriage as legal.


    Flag-waving LGBT rights advocates on the packed Supreme Court forecourt -- some in tears -- cheered, danced, shouted "USA! USA!" and sang "The Star-Spangled Banner" in celebration.

    Prominent in the crowd was Jim Obergefell, the lead plaintiff in the case, clutching a photo of his deceased husband John Arthur.

    He took a brief phone call from Obama, who told him: "Not only have you been a great example for people but you're also going to bring about a lasting change in this country.

    "And it's pretty rare where that happens so I couldn't be prouder of you and your husband. God bless you."

    Obergefell, who was live on television at the time, replied humbly: "Thank you, sir. That means an incredible amount to me."

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    - Dissenting voices -

    Also in the vast crowd outside court as the life-changing news filtered through were Robert Westover, 51, and Tom Fulton, 57, who hugged and kissed.

    "It feels like my birthday, the prom, our wedding day. It's hard to express the intensity of this moment, that our love now is equal," Westover told AFP.

    The case was brought by 14 same-sex couples, and the widowers of two gay couples, including Obergefell, who had challenged de facto bans on same-sex marriage in Michigan, Kentucky, Ohio and Tennessee.

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    All four states had insisted in their respective constitutions that marriage could only be a union between a man and a woman.

    "The Fourteenth Amendment (providing equal protection under the law) requires a state to license a marriage between two people of the same sex and to recognize a marriage between two people of the same sex when their marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out-of-State," the court ruling said.

    Marriage has been a core institution in society since ancient times, "but it has not stood in isolation from developments in law and society," reasoned Justice Anthony Kennedy, who delivered the ruling.

    To exclude them from marriage, Kennedy said, would deny same-sex couples "the constellation of benefits that the states have linked to marriage."

    Voicing dissent was Chief Justice John Roberts, who expressed concern that the court was making a decision better left to elected state legislatures.

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    "If you are among the many Americans -- of whatever sexual orientation -- who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today's decision," he said.

    "Celebrate the achievement of a desired goal. Celebrate the opportunity for a new expression of commitment to a partner. Celebrate the availability of new benefits.

    "But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it."



    - 'Remember this day' -

    The decision came two years to the day after the Supreme Court, in another major ruling, struck down a controversial federal law that denied US government benefits to wedded gays and lesbians.

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    "This transformative triumph is a momentous victory for freedom, equality, inclusion, and above all, love," said Freedom to Marry, one of several groups battling for LGBT marriage rights.

    "We’ll remember this day for the rest of our lives," added the It Gets Better Project, another gay rights organization, in a mass email to supporters.

    But the conservative Family Research Council expressed outrage, saying "no court can overturn natural law."

    "Nature and nature’s God, hailed by the signers of our Declaration of Independence as the very source of law, cannot be usurped by the edict of a court, even the United States Supreme Court," it said.

    Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, whose state has also prohibited same-sex marriage, said the fight going forward was now one of "religious liberty."

    "No court, no law, no rule, and no words will change the simple truth that marriage is the union of one man and one woman," he said in a statement.

    "Nothing will change the importance of a mother and a father to the raising of a child -- and nothing will change our collective resolve that all Americans should be able to exercise their faith in their daily lives without infringement and harassment."
     
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    Good for you, USA.

    But now please don't impose this on other nations just like your version of "democracy" and "freedom".
     
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    Decline of humanity
     
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    Will they send gay troops to serenade the local population?
     
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    Beck: We Have 10,000 Pastors Who Are Willing To Die Resisting Anti-Christian Persecution In America
    SUBMITTED BY Kyle Mantyla on Friday, 6/5/2015 11:53 am
    Next week, Religious Right activist Jim Garlow will be hosting a four day conference at his California megachurch called the "Future Conference: What You Thought Was Coming ... Is Here Now." That sort of a dire warning perfectly matches up with what Glenn Beck has been saying for the last several months, so naturally Beck invited Garlow on to his radio program yesterday to promote the event.

    Garlow's conference is coming at the perfect time, Beck said, because society is about to collapse and America needs passionate pastors who are willing to give up their lives if necessary in the fight against the coming persecution of Christians. Fortunately, the Black Robe Regiment that he and David Barton established a few years back has managed to cobble together at least 10,000 pastors who are willing to do just that.

    "The number in the Black Robe Regiment is about 70,000 now," Beck said. "The number that I think will walk through a wall of fire, you know, and possible death, is anywhere between 17,000 and 10,000. That is an extraordinary number of people that are willing to lay it all down on the table and willing to go to jail or go to death because they serve God and not man."

    Garlow was in complete agreement, saying that the necessity of being willing to die is "honestly where we are."

    "We've come to that moment," he said. "People like you and me and, thank God, many others are digging in very deeply and laying the benchmark of where we're going to stand on these issues."

    "You're going to see these 10,000 to 20,000 pastors begin to stand up," Beck promised, "and say 'it doesn't matter if I lose my church, it doesn't matter if I lose my building, it doesn't matter if I lose my life, I will not sit down!'"
     
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    lol :p:,

    very taboo subject in sub continent indeed
     
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    Roy Moore's Group Vows To Defy Gay Marriage Decision In Alabama
    SUBMITTED BY Brian Tashman on Friday, 6/26/2015 1:55 pm
    Roy Moore’s Group Vows To Defy Gay Marriage Decision In Alabama Roy Moore, the Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court who notoriously flouted a federal court ruling which struck down the state’s ban on same-sex marriage, today suggested that he will continue to defy the federal judiciary on marriage equality.

    Moore shared a statement on Facebook from his wife, who heads the Religious Right legal group he created, The Foundation for Moral Law, vowing to defy the “illegitimate” ruling from the Supreme Court:

    The Foundation for Moral Law, a Montgomery-based legal foundation dedicated to the defense of the Constitution and the rights of religious persons, says the battle for traditional marriage will continue despite the decision of the U.S. Supreme Court to strike down laws prohibiting same-sex marriage.

    Today the Supreme Court voted 5-4 to reverse a ruling by the Sixth Circuit Court of appeals that had upheld the marriage laws of Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee, holding that the right to marry a person of the same sex is guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution. But the Foundation for Moral Law is blowing the whistle on the illegitimacy of today’s decision.

    Not only does the U.S. Supreme Court have no legal authority to redefine marriage, but also at least 2 members of the Court’s majority opinion were under a legal duty to recuse and refrain from voting. Their failure to recuse calls into question the validity of this decision.

    "This means we've got more work to do, but we are determined to do it," said Foundation President Kayla Moore. "The Foundation is involved with a same-sex marriage case in the Middle District of Alabama, and that case will continue. There are issues in this case that the Supreme Court's decision didn't resolve."
    Moore has claimed that gay marriage would literally destroy America and lead to God’s wrath.
     
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    I mean, I don't have any problem countries adopting laws that fit their populations, as long as they are not barbaric in nature (such as slavery and so on).

    Just don't preach these to us like your constant lecturing of human rights, democracy, freedom for which you absolutely have no regard yourself.
     
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    Sickening...U.S Keep your gay shi to yourself.

    Thanks
     
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    A big achievement for freedom..... I hope the whole world follows.
     
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    Far-Right: Flee America Before God Destroys Us For Gay Marriage!
    SUBMITTED BY Brian Tashman on Friday, 6/26/2015 2:15 pm
    Religious Right activists have compared today’s gay marriage ruling to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and Pearl Harbor, warning of imminent divine judgment and civil war.

    “No matter what, the Court’s ruling does not upend millenia of truth,” former Rep. Michele Bachmann said. “Many Americans will choose to follow God’s ways rather than this Court and they should suffer no penalty for doing so. The Court has flung open the gate to lawsuits from those pushing the gay agenda against those who disagree with same sex marriage.”

    Rep. Louie Gohmert said God will withdraw his protection from America:

    Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, reacted with guns blzaing, calling the ruling a “civilization-changing decision that destroys our nation’s heritage of Biblical marriage. May God forgive our Supreme Court majority for its arrogance and its self-apotheosis.”

    Invoking biblical history, he warned, “Both Moses and Jesus stated that it was God’s law that ‘a man will leave his father and mother and a woman will leave her home and the two will come together as one.’ That defined marriage … The Supreme Court ruling is heartbreaking for the turmoil it will mean for our nation’s future.”

    Gohmert indicated two justices should have recused themselves, observing, “It is clear beyond any doubt that Justices Kagan and Ginsberg have held exceedingly strong opinions that same-sex marriages were constitutional by virtue of their having performed them.”

    He further warned, “f Moses, Jesus, and contributors to the Bible were correct, God’s hand of protection will be withdrawn as future actions from external and internal forces will soon make clear. I will do all I can to prevent such harm, but I am gravely fearful that the stage has now been set.”
    On American Family Radio, Crane Durham said that America is now under “tyranny” as a result of the court’s decision.


    One caller said that he is prepared to “abandon ship” and flee America for a nation like Costa Rica or the Philippines, while another caller said that God is about to punish all of the people, such as President Obama and Hillary Clinton, who are celebrating the court’s ruling.


    Conservative author Carl Gallups told WorldNetDaily that the Supreme Court’s ruling invites God to wrath upon America:

    “This is the most monumental ruling of any court, by any nation in the history of the world,” Gallups said. “The spiritual and world-reaching ramifications will be prolific and devastating.”



    “This ruling may prove to be the final death-knell of divine judgment upon our once great nation. For God’s word clearly declares, ‘What God has joined together, let not man put asunder’ (Mark 10:9). Man (The U.S. Supreme Court) has now spit upon God’s word and ‘put asunder’ what God declared as the standard for marriage – one man and one woman joined before God for life.”

    Though he has been preaching for 30 years that this day would soon be upon the nation, and received much ridicule and lambasting for doing so, Gallups said he is “deeply saddened that it is now here – among our children and grandchildren.”

    “These are the beginnings of the very last days,” he added. “I know I will be further mocked for uttering these words, but I unapologetically come from a biblical world view. I know what the Word of God says — I know what Jesus Himself said.”

    'Murder Of The Masses': 7 Insane Right-Wing Predictions About Gay Marriage
    SUBMITTED BY Brian Tashman on Wednesday, 6/24/2015 3:55 pm
    “If this Supreme Court rules against marriage, all hell is going to break loose,” or so warned Tom DeLay, the former House GOP leader. DeLay has said that “if they rule against marriage,” then “we will all defy” the “ten [sic] unelected, unaccountable people” on the court, joining a host of Religious Right leaders, including presidential candidates Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum, in signing a vow to resist a Supreme Court ruling in favor of marriage equality.

    In anticipation of the upcoming Supreme Court ruling, we’ve compiled a video of the Right’s most dire warnings about a potential decision striking down gay marriage bans, including self-proclaimed “prophet” Cindy Jacobs' fear that gay marriage will lead to natural disasters; preacher Scott Lively predicting a devastating “calamity”; Glenn Beck turning into the anti-gay version of Martin Luther King, Jr.; Tony Perkins calling for a revolution against gay marriage; and Pat Robertson, well, being Pat Robertson.


    And those are just the highlights. Conservatives have made a whole host of insane predictions about what will befall America if gay marriage becomes legal nationwide (think Eiffel tower marriage). Never mind that none of these things have happened in any of the 37 states where gay and lesbian couples can already get married. Just you wait!

    1) Prepare for Jail!

    Much like when conservatives claimed that the 2009 Hate Crimes Act would ban all expressions of anti-gay political opinions and criminalize religious beliefs (it didn’t), Religious Right activists are now predicting that a Supreme Court decision in favor of marriage equality will bring about the end of free speech.

    “When you elevate a lifestyle to the status of a civil right, I don’t think a lot of believers fully understand or comprehend that once it’s risen to that level and our government accepts it, then anyone who disagrees with it could be at least civilly liable, but more than likely would be criminally liable,” Huckabee warned.

    Huckabee also stated that the gay rights movement “won’t stop until there are no more churches, until there are no more people who are spreading the Gospel.” According to Huckabee, gay marriage will lead to “the criminalization of Christianity” and “criminal charges” against pastors who preach against it or refuse to officiate the wedding of a gay couple. Another GOP presidential candidate, Ted Cruz, also predicted that “Christian pastors who decline to perform gay marriages” or “speak out and preach biblical truths on marriage” will be punished for committing “hate speech.”

    Of course, no such thing has ever happened in any of the 37 states that already have marriage equality, but Religious Right activists are insistent that gay marriage will lead to pastors being hauled off to jail en masse for breaking non-existent hate speech laws.

    Religious Right leaders like Sandy Rios of the American Family Association and David Lane of the American Renewal Project have warned of impending “martyrdom,” while Rick Scarborough, a Religious Right activist and leading proponent of the “hate speech” myth, has insisted that gay marriage will make it “illegal” to “share the Gospel” and predicted that jails will soon fill up with pastors. He has even told conservatives that they should be prepared to “burn” if the court backs marriage equality.


    2) Civil Disobedience

    Following the Hate Crimes Act debate, Religious Right leaders unveiled a manifesto called the Manhattan Declaration, vowing to commit civil disobedience in the face of what they said was growing anti-Christian persecution as a result of gay rights.

    Now, while preparing for the court’s ruling on marriage, conservatives are jumping over each other to frame themselves as the next Martin Luther King Jr., Rosa Parks or Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a dissident Lutheran theologian who was executed by the Nazi regime.

    Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, a hero of the anti-gay movement, said a pro-gay-marriage decision should be treated just like Plessy v. Ferguson and widely ignored; pastor Jim Garlow, who was instrumental in the passage of Proposition 8 in California, said that anti-gay activists will soon “become an underground resistance movement”; Lane warned of the imposition of “homosexual fascism”; and Pat Buchanan wondered about the possibility of “massive civil disobedience” similar to what “there was against segregation.” Alan Keyes said that the church must defy gay marriage in the same way a Nazi-era German citizen had to resist orders to work in the death camps.

    Cruz called on anti-gay pastors to “disregard unjust edicts from government ” and Huckabee pledged to carry out civil disobedience against a ruling in favor of gay marriage, claiming it would be no different than acting “in disobedience to the Dred Scott decision of 1857.”


    3) Revolution & Civil War

    Family Research Council President Tony Perkins has consistently warned of an anti-gay “revolution” if the Supreme Court strikes down state bans on same-sex marriage, a feeling shared by his right-wing allies Mat Staver and Matt Barber, both of the conservative legal group Liberty Counsel.

    “This is the thing that revolutions literally are made of,” Staver said. “This would be more devastating to our freedom, to our religious freedom, to the rights of pastors and their duty to be able to speak and to Christians around the country, then anything that the revolutionaries during the American Revolution even dreamed of facing. This would be the thing that revolutions are made of. This could split the country right in two. This could cause another civil war.”

    Similar predictions of civil war have also come from James Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, and conservative televangelist Rick Joyner. One right-wing columnist said that “this case could well be the fuse that ignites the powder keg of outrage that leads the nation into the first battle of a new war,” one which pits “homo-fascists” against “those of us who oppose their dangerous and deadly desires.

    Keyes, writing in WorldNetDaily, called a gay marriage ruling a “ just cause for war.” Such a decision would be no different from “the Dred Scott decision that heralded the onset of the fist Civil War,” Keyes wrote, as it would “bring the nation to the brink” and represent “a high crime and misdemeanor that effectively dissolves the just bonds of government between and among the states, and among the individuals who compose the people of the United States.” Such a ruling, he warned, “is likely to produce the separation and dissolution of the United States.”

    The stakes are high, according to Justice Moore, since a Supreme Court decision backing marriage equality will “literally cause the destruction of our country.”

    4) Secession

    WorldNetDaily editor Joseph Farah thinks conservatives should have “an Exodus strategy” in case the court legalizes same-sex marriage nationwide.

    “Will a U.S. Supreme Court decision declaring ‘same-sex marriage’ a ‘right’ warrant secession by some state willing and eager to reclaim America’s Judeo-Christian heritage and foundation?” Farah asked. “Is there one state in 50 that would not only defy the coming abomination, but secede in response? The rewards could be great. I would certainly consider relocating. How about you?”

    He added: “If not a state, are there any nations in the world interested in a pilgrimage by millions of Americans?”

    One conservative author, former Reagan aide Douglas MacKinnon, has even suggested that Southern states form a separate nation that will ban same-sex marriage , proposing that the secessionists call the new anti-gay nation “Reagan.”

    5) Holocaust

    Seeing that Religious Right activists regularly call gay rights activists terrorists, Al Qaeda and ISIS members, fascists, Nazis, and the ones who are to blame for the Holocaust, it comes as no surprise that several activists have warned of an impending holocaust of American Christians if gays and lesbians can get married nationwide.

    For example, Staver and Bradlee Dean, a Religious Right activist and talk show host, have both appropriated Martin Niemöller’s famous Nazi-era “First They Came for the Socialists…” poem to warn of anti-Christian persecution in America. Staver even claims that America is already worse than Nazi Germany. While discussing non-discrimination laws that protect LGBT people, Perkins, the FRC president, wondered when the government is “going to start rolling out the boxcars to start hauling off Christians.” Former Bush administration official Robert Reilly said gay rights advocates are creating conditions in the U.S. similar to the ones which “led to the Holocaust, World War II and the death of 60 million people.”

    One article that became popular among right-wing groups even stated that the gay rights movement will do to American Christians what the Turks did to the Armenians and what the Hutus did to the Tutsis. The author even warned that American Christians will soon be facing persecution as Christians do in Syria.

    Not to be outdone, Keyes has claimed that gay marriage is part of a communist plot that paves the way for “the murder of the masses.”

    6) Child endangerment

    The civil disobedience pledge signed by Huckabee, Santorum and dozens of Religious Right leaders includes a stern warning that “authorizing the legal equivalency of marriage to same-sex couples undermines the fundamental rights of children and threatens their security, stability, and future,” a theme frequently repeated by anti-gay conservatives.

    Santorum said that if he is elected president, he will flout the court’s ruling in order to “protect children.” Garlow, the California pastor, said that gay marriage will “be profoundly destructive, profoundly harming” to children, who he says will bear the brunt of “the catastrophic consequences, the pain, the suffering inflicted on the human race by this redefinition of marriage.” David Barton, a right-wing pseudo-historian, claimed thatgay marriage will legalize pedophilia .

    To get a snapshot of such views, just check out what the insane anti-gay film “Light Wins” says about the gay plan to “groom” children.


    7) God’s wrath

    Mike Huckabee has warned that gay marriage will unleash divine punishment on America. While he didn’t get into specifics, others on the Right have been happy to describe in detail the divine ramifications of gay marriage.

    Bryan Fischer, the American Family Radio host, said that God will use groups such as ISIS — or as he calls them, “the pagan armies of Allah” — to punish the U.S. for gay rights. Others claim that America is already being punished for gay marriage in the form of the California drought.

    Another conservative radio host, Rick Wiles, has repeatedly predicted that America will be hit with a nuclear strike if not a “fireball from space,” while Lane, the right-wing political organizer, has been a bit more modest, claiming gay rights will only lead to divine punishment in the form of car bombings.

    Others have claimed that planet Earth won’t survive gay marriage, as several right-wing pundits have fretted that gay marriage will bring about the Last Days. So let Pat Robertson explain how gay marriage will lead to our destruction:

    Todd Starnes Warns Pastors Who Refuse To Perform Gay Marriages To 'Prepare For Hate Crime Charges'
    SUBMITTED BY Kyle Mantyla on Friday, 6/26/2015 1:33 pm
    Following his interview with Franklin Graham this morning in which Graham warned that the Supreme Court decision legalizing gay marriage will lead to persecution of Christians and, ultimately, God unleashing His judgment upon America, Fox News commentator Todd Starnes shared his own dire predictions about what is to come.

    "Gay rights now trump religious liberty," Starnes stated, utterly ignoring the actual language of the ruling. "If you think the cultural purging of the southern states has been breathtaking, wait until you see what the activists are about to unleash on the American Christians. Churches and faith-based organizations should prepare to be hit with lawsuits and government investigations. Pastors who refuse to perform gay marriage and preach from the Bible should prepare for hate crime charges. All dissent will be silenced."

    Starnes went on to predict that Christians all over the nation will rise up in defiance of the ruling because if they are "given the choice of obeying God or the government, I believe Christians will obey God even if there is Hell to pay."
     
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    Atheria is that you in the avatar ? :o:

    Smoking is injurious to health ! :tsk:
     
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    You missed the liquor she's chugging. :astagh:
     
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    Adding to Armstrong I have one question too.

    Are you using the bottle like a telescope to gaze at the stars? :lol:
     
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    nope, its not him...