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President Biden portrays U.S. relations with China as a clash of values: democracy vs. autocracy.

But his rhetoric obscures the administration’s more pragmatic approach of cobbling together groups of countries to work jointly on technology. The goal is to stay ahead of China in semiconductors, artificial intelligence and other advances that are expected to define the economy and military of the future.

Preliminary conversations with U.S. allies have begun, though the effort is expected to take months, said senior administration officials.
The strategy has both offensive and defensive components. By combining efforts, the U.S. and its allies can vastly outspend China, whose research-and-development budget now nearly matches the U.S. The alliances can also coordinate policies to deny China the technologies it needs to try to become a global leader.

“We have a very strong interest in making sure that the techno-democracies come together more effectively so we are the ones who are doing the shaping of those norms and rules,” said Secretary of State Antony Blinken at his confirmation hearing.

The U.S. plans to organize different alliances depending on the issue, said a senior administration official, who called the effort a modular approach. The different groupings generally would include most of the industrial powers of the Group of Seven nations, plus some others. (The idea is sometimes called the Democracy 10 or the Tech 10.)

An alliance focused on artificial intelligence, for instance, might include Israel, whose researchers are considered leaders in the field. One involving export controls would probably include India, to make sure China is blocked from importing certain technologies. To encourage countries wary of offending China to join the alliances, the administration may not announce their participation, said the senior administration official.


Crucially, say those who have worked on the concept, the alliances must be flexible and avoid bureaucracy. “Creating another international institution will lend itself to big announcements without anything being done,” said Anja Manuel, a former Bush State Department official. “With technology, you have to be nimble.”

Among the areas considered ripe for alliances are export control, technical standards, quantum computing, artificial intelligence, biotechnology, 5G telecommunications and the rules governing surveillance technology. The list needs to be narrowed, say technology experts. Too many efforts would take too long to organize and overtax government officials.

Semiconductor technology is at the top of the administration’s list because computer chips power the modern economy. China is the world’s largest semiconductor market, but more than 80% of the chips—especially advanced ones—are either imported or produced by foreign companies in China.

Beijing has spent tens of billions of dollars over the past few decades to try to build a world-class domestic industry but still lags behind Western rivals. The Biden administration wants to keep it that way.


During the Trump administration, the U.S. worked with the Netherlands to block the sale of Dutch-made semiconductor manufacturing equipment to China’s largest chip maker, Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp., which could have helped it produce leading-edge chips. The Trump Commerce Department also restricted sales of chip-making equipment to SMIC.

The Biden administration is following up on the curbs. In February, national security adviser Jake Sullivan spoke with his Dutch counterpart, Geoffrey van Leeuwen, about China and advanced technology, among other subjects, according to a White House statement.

Technologists describe semiconductor manufacturing equipment as a “choke point technology” because it is dominated by just three countries—the U.S., Japan and the Netherlands—making it relatively simple to restrict. A semiconductor alliance would also probably include big chip producers in Europe, as well as South Korea and Taiwan.

Along with restricting technology to China, the members could pool work on advanced R&D, including financing multibillion-dollar semiconductor manufacturing facilities outside of China.

A high-profile effort is bound to stir concern—and possible retaliation—from Beijing, which is working to lessen dependence on foreign technology. Beijing has used its economic heft to try to cow U.S. allies, including cutting off imports of wine and coal from Australia after Canberra pressed for an investigation into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic.


Adding Taiwan, a major semiconductor producer that Beijing regards as a renegade province, would add to China’s concern.

A U.S.-led semiconductor alliance “violates the principles of market economy and fair competition, and will only artificially separate the world and destroy international trade rules,” said China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs in a statement.

Beijing has plenty of levers to pull. China is the world’s major supplier of so-called rare earths—minerals that are indispensable for producing mobile phones, electronics and military equipment. In 2010, China limited rare-earth shipments to Japan during a fight over ownership of islands in the East China Sea, although China denied it was involved in coercion.

China recently started a new round of regulations of rare earths and has quizzed foreign companies about their dependence on Chinese production, which some technology experts view as a warning shot. China’s Foreign Ministry said Beijing is “willing to meet the legitimate needs of all countries in the world as far as possible in accordance with the actual capacity and level of China’s rare earth resources.”


Mr. Sullivan has lauded past allied opposition to China’s rare-earth restrictions and Mr. Biden nominated the Obama administration’s point person, Katherine Tai, as U.S. Trade Representative.

Mr. Biden also recently ordered a study of U.S. dependence on foreign supply of rare earths. American officials have been working with Australia and other nations to boost production and create synthetic substitutes for the minerals.

Cutting off rare-earth exports would backfire by undermining China’s commercial reputation and encouraging mineral production elsewhere, said Martijn Rasser, a technology analyst at the Center for a New American Security, a Washington, D.C., think tank.

Technology alliances are worth the risk of blowback, he said. “Ultimately, the U.S. wants to reduce or eliminate Beijing’s ability to use coercion.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-enlists-allies-to-counter-chinas-technology-push-11614524400
 

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India has chip technology that China wants to import? Never mind chip, does India even have technology?
 

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Cutting off rare-earth exports would backfire by undermining China’s commercial reputation and encouraging mineral production elsewhere, said Martijn Rasser,
How ironic when seeing someone said that in a "blocking China" thread.
 

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India has chip technology that China wants to import? Never mind chip, does India even have technology?
India has launched a factory that can make chips with shit. And many Indian officials endorsed it.
They even claimed to export those upcoming cow shit chips to the US. Look forward to seeing that.
 

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India has launched a factory that can make chips with shit. And many Indian officials endorsed it.
They even claimed to export those upcoming cow shit chips to the US. Look forward to seeing that.
it's true :D


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This Chip Made Of Cow Dung Will Stop Mobile Radiation; Govt Official Says America Is Buying It
By Mohul Ghosh
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Last updated Oct 13, 2020

This Chip Made Of Cow Dung Will Stop Mobile Radiation; Govt Official Says America Is Buying It

In an interesting development, Head of Govt Department has launched a chip made of cow dung, which he claims, can stop radiation emitting from mobiles.

Not only these will be sold in India, but as per the official, even Americans are buying it.

What exactly it is? How it works?
Stop Mobile Radiation With Cow Dung Chip

The Chairman of Rashtriya Kamdhenu Aayog (RKA): Vallabhbhai Kathiria has launched a new chip made from cow dung, which has been claimed to stop mobile radiation.

Costing Rs 50-100 in India, Vallabhbhai Kathiria has claimed that these are being exported to the US, and sold for $10 each

Rashtriya Kamdhenu Aayog was established in 2019, whose objective is to “conservation, protection and development of cows and their progeny”. It comes under Ministry of Fisheries, Animal Husbandry & Dairying.

While launching this anti-radiation chip, Vallabhbhai Kathiria said, “See, this is a radiation chip. You can keep it in your mobile. We have seen that if you keep this chip in your mobile, it reduces radiation significantly. If you want to avoid disease, then this is going to be used.”

This anti-radiation chip has been named as Gausatva Kavach, and right now being manufactured by Rajkot-based Shrijee Gaushala.

The Chairman said that more than 500 ‘gaushalas’ are right now manufacturing this anti-radiation chip made of cow dung, and being sold for Rs 50-100 each.

When asked if these chips are certified by the Govt or not, he said, “These are not certified but tested. It can be tested in any laboratory, even in a college.”

 

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President Biden portrays U.S. relations with China as a clash of values: democracy vs. autocracy.

But his rhetoric obscures the administration’s more pragmatic approach of cobbling together groups of countries to work jointly on technology. The goal is to stay ahead of China in semiconductors, artificial intelligence and other advances that are expected to define the economy and military of the future.

Preliminary conversations with U.S. allies have begun, though the effort is expected to take months, said senior administration officials.
The strategy has both offensive and defensive components. By combining efforts, the U.S. and its allies can vastly outspend China, whose research-and-development budget now nearly matches the U.S. The alliances can also coordinate policies to deny China the technologies it needs to try to become a global leader.

“We have a very strong interest in making sure that the techno-democracies come together more effectively so we are the ones who are doing the shaping of those norms and rules,” said Secretary of State Antony Blinken at his confirmation hearing.

The U.S. plans to organize different alliances depending on the issue, said a senior administration official, who called the effort a modular approach. The different groupings generally would include most of the industrial powers of the Group of Seven nations, plus some others. (The idea is sometimes called the Democracy 10 or the Tech 10.)

An alliance focused on artificial intelligence, for instance, might include Israel, whose researchers are considered leaders in the field. One involving export controls would probably include India, to make sure China is blocked from importing certain technologies. To encourage countries wary of offending China to join the alliances, the administration may not announce their participation, said the senior administration official.


Crucially, say those who have worked on the concept, the alliances must be flexible and avoid bureaucracy. “Creating another international institution will lend itself to big announcements without anything being done,” said Anja Manuel, a former Bush State Department official. “With technology, you have to be nimble.”

Among the areas considered ripe for alliances are export control, technical standards, quantum computing, artificial intelligence, biotechnology, 5G telecommunications and the rules governing surveillance technology. The list needs to be narrowed, say technology experts. Too many efforts would take too long to organize and overtax government officials.

Semiconductor technology is at the top of the administration’s list because computer chips power the modern economy. China is the world’s largest semiconductor market, but more than 80% of the chips—especially advanced ones—are either imported or produced by foreign companies in China.

Beijing has spent tens of billions of dollars over the past few decades to try to build a world-class domestic industry but still lags behind Western rivals. The Biden administration wants to keep it that way.


During the Trump administration, the U.S. worked with the Netherlands to block the sale of Dutch-made semiconductor manufacturing equipment to China’s largest chip maker, Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp., which could have helped it produce leading-edge chips. The Trump Commerce Department also restricted sales of chip-making equipment to SMIC.

The Biden administration is following up on the curbs. In February, national security adviser Jake Sullivan spoke with his Dutch counterpart, Geoffrey van Leeuwen, about China and advanced technology, among other subjects, according to a White House statement.

Technologists describe semiconductor manufacturing equipment as a “choke point technology” because it is dominated by just three countries—the U.S., Japan and the Netherlands—making it relatively simple to restrict. A semiconductor alliance would also probably include big chip producers in Europe, as well as South Korea and Taiwan.

Along with restricting technology to China, the members could pool work on advanced R&D, including financing multibillion-dollar semiconductor manufacturing facilities outside of China.

A high-profile effort is bound to stir concern—and possible retaliation—from Beijing, which is working to lessen dependence on foreign technology. Beijing has used its economic heft to try to cow U.S. allies, including cutting off imports of wine and coal from Australia after Canberra pressed for an investigation into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic.


Adding Taiwan, a major semiconductor producer that Beijing regards as a renegade province, would add to China’s concern.

A U.S.-led semiconductor alliance “violates the principles of market economy and fair competition, and will only artificially separate the world and destroy international trade rules,” said China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs in a statement.

Beijing has plenty of levers to pull. China is the world’s major supplier of so-called rare earths—minerals that are indispensable for producing mobile phones, electronics and military equipment. In 2010, China limited rare-earth shipments to Japan during a fight over ownership of islands in the East China Sea, although China denied it was involved in coercion.

China recently started a new round of regulations of rare earths and has quizzed foreign companies about their dependence on Chinese production, which some technology experts view as a warning shot. China’s Foreign Ministry said Beijing is “willing to meet the legitimate needs of all countries in the world as far as possible in accordance with the actual capacity and level of China’s rare earth resources.”


Mr. Sullivan has lauded past allied opposition to China’s rare-earth restrictions and Mr. Biden nominated the Obama administration’s point person, Katherine Tai, as U.S. Trade Representative.

Mr. Biden also recently ordered a study of U.S. dependence on foreign supply of rare earths. American officials have been working with Australia and other nations to boost production and create synthetic substitutes for the minerals.

Cutting off rare-earth exports would backfire by undermining China’s commercial reputation and encouraging mineral production elsewhere, said Martijn Rasser, a technology analyst at the Center for a New American Security, a Washington, D.C., think tank.

Technology alliances are worth the risk of blowback, he said. “Ultimately, the U.S. wants to reduce or eliminate Beijing’s ability to use coercion.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-enlists-allies-to-counter-chinas-technology-push-11614524400
While american can dream about counting on allies to tech export ban on China.

Many of US traditional allies need China on tech , fund and assist even more.

Remember the gallileo project? End up China beidou 3 complete earlier than EU and occupied a much superior bandwidth and providing worldwide service. CNSA going to launch the space station soon and ESA export to join this free space station. It will be open to friendly nation to China.

While ESA need to fork out loan shark fee but without getting a seat onboard ISS.


From GPS to space station. Alll are Chinese tech without a single input from foreign countries.
 

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India has unlimited natural resource, cow dung hence cows are treated like sacred animals there. Never thought i say this but Indians are very ingenious people that could even use cow dung to drive chip technology. I can see why the US wants to forbid India from transferring this secret technology to China. China is in trouble now with all the tech sanctions, the crash is coming embrace yourself my fellow Chinese.
 

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