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Can't wait to see the next modules added and even more the next clearer fly-over images taken from an airliner!
The island structure probably sitting in a similar position to the Nimitz class, but not as further back as the Ford class, in between the two elevators from the right side of the flight deck.
So either they chose to buy the Ulyanovsk design because it was quicker and cheaper than creating a new design or they couldn't design one on their own.

shorter and wider usually = slower but more stable. Better learning platform.
The rumor about China obtaining the blueprint Ulyanovsk class did fly around for a quite long time.

Initially, I didn't buy this rumor, but later when I saw the uncanny structural layout resemblance between the Type 003 and the Ulyanovsk class, I start to believe it might be true.

Both Type 003 and Ulyanovsk have this unique V-Shape stern.


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From 逆襲 @horobeyo on 2021.02.26:

俺一开始也以为20MW涡轮发电机是给核鱼用的,两台刚好。
这么看来,4台合计80MW+柴油发电机,003的供电能力惊人。


At first I also thought that the 20MW turbine generator was for nuclear submarine, and two were just right.
In this way, the power supply capacity of four sets of 80MW+ diesel generators in total for the 003 is impressive.

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If they still believe these magical boilers, then all I can say is good luck about to obtain this alien technology. :enjoy:
 
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What??? From what do you come to the conclusion they "chose to buy the Ulyanovsk" or even more "did the Ukrainian ever sell it"?? :hitwall: :crazy: "Looks like" is not the same as "they bought and copied".
Probably some Soviet era experts who belonged to the project 1143.7 did assist China to design the Type 003.

To build an aircraft carriers isn't just about the electromagnetic catapult and nuclear reactor. Although China has produced these technologies by itself, but we have very little experience to design a supercarrier.

To refurbish the Ulyanovsk design on the Type 003 probably means it is a viable shortcut way for China to build a nuclear supercarrier in the shortest amount of time.
they had to refurbish their first carrier. the second is an enlarged and slightly altered version of the first design. Both of which are based on cruiser hull designs. Now the new one "looks like" another Russian design. ChineseTiger1986 didn't say that it looks like new design or an American design. China has money. Even if if they can design a carrier why waste time on a new design when they can buy a design? Simple economics and speed efficiency. :-) Sure, perhaps the Chinese spent years and huge sums of money creating their own design. That design would be made by people without any experience in designing true aircraft carriers. What would an intelligent person do for their first true carrier hull design? The Chinese are very intelligent so I assume they make logical intelligent choices.
If China is so hasty to refurbish the design of the Ulyanovsk on the Type 003, then it means the Type 003 is becoming more likely nuclear powered.

Otherwise, if China wants to design the Type 003 from scratch, then the successor of the CV-17 would most likely be a 70,000 tonnes class conventional flattop instead of a 90,000 tonnes one that strongly resembles the Ulyanovsk class.

So there is one possible answer: China wants to build a nuclear supercarrier as soon as possible.
 
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Could this be the first official image of how the Type 003 aircraft carrier will look like? 🤔

At least this commemoration coin from the China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC) looks very interesting.

(Image via @芯苒 from https://lt.cjdby.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2709946&extra=page=1)


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It was actually available in Taobao many years ago.

That's obviously an old badge, and the flattop within that badge is probably the design of the original Type 002 with steam catapults.

Right now, the CSSC is designated as “中国船舶集团有限公司” since 2019.

In that badge, it still uses the old designation as “中国船舶工业集团公司”.

The original Type 002 was comparable to the Kitty Hawk class, and it was designated to be a 70,000 tonnes class flattop with steam catapult.


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Digging out the old CG picture of WIP of CV17 which is comparable to current WIP of 003, my guess is that 003 will be launched around 2022 June, plus or minus 2 or 3 months difference because they belonged to different displacement class and different construction method.

Fitting out and sea trial will be from 2 1/2 years (CV17 refers) to 3 years. Thus commissioning would be around 3rd quarter of 2025.

CV17 WIP illustration: The rusty red parts are the modules added as at 2016 January. The gray and orange parts were not added as at that time.
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And another update, this time for the Type 003 aircraft carrier under construction at the Jiangnan Shipyard shipyard with once again a blurry satellite image only dated 10. March 10.

Seems as if in comparison to the previously most recent image from 2. March no major changes are visible.

(Image via @卫星图像发烧员 from Weibo)

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Finaly we have satalite images of the powerplant and I belive we could now safely say it is conventionally powered.
May be the reactors were still not ready when they first began construction because even if they would begin construction in say 2018 the other components of the carrier were probably being produced even before that so even if the reactors were ready in say 2019 or 2020 it was already too late to change the design.
 

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So what propulsion will it be? Nuclear or Steam turbine with those clearer photo? Based on what? Number of generator?
 

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