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    Two Chinese nationals kidnapped in Pakistan
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    • 5 hours ago


    QUETTA: Two Chinese nationals working in Pakistan were kidnapped Wednesday, local police and China’s state media said, in an attack which could raise safety concerns for Beijing’s multi-billion dollar investment in the country.


    The abductions happened in Quetta, the capital of southwestern Balochistan province, which is at the heart of the $50 billion China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), and which is wracked by separatist and insurgents.

    “A Chinese couple was kidnapped from the neighbourhood of Jinnah town in Quetta today, the couple were running a Chinese language centre,” senior local police official Aitzaz Goraya told AFP.

    “When they left the language centre for lunch, they were dragged into a vehicle without number plates by three unknown men,” he said. The men then began firing weapons in the air to scare off onlookers.

    One Chinese woman managed to escape and ran back to the centre, while a passer-by received a gunshot wound.

    The incident was confirmed by Ahsan Mehboob, the provincial police chief.

    Passer-by Muhammad Zahir told AFP: “I was walking on the road when I saw three men forcing a Chinese woman in a white car and she was refusing and crying, I stopped to observe the situation but they had forced the woman in the car by then and were pushing the man.

    “So I rushed to them and asked what they were doing. One of them said we are from the crime branch of the police and we are taking them for investigation and I told them that they should not misbehave with people, then the driver came out and shot me in my foot,” the 35-year-old said.

    Chinese state media confirmed the kidnappings, while deputy chief of mission in Islamabad Lijian Zhao said the embassy was working toward their release.

    China is ramping up investment in its South Asian neighbour as part of a plan unveiled in 2015 that will link its far-western Xinjiang region to Pakistan’s Gwadar port in Balochistan with a series of infrastructure, power and transport upgrades. -AFP

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    This is indictment of the pathetic state of law enforement in Pakistan then RAW, CIA, Mossad, MI5 and other alphabet demons. Like I said many times before. Don't buy that next frigate, that next tank and instead spend that sacved money on A class well resourced police force in Pakistan to make the country secure.

    If it is so easy for the alphabet demons to cause damage to Pakistan why not unleash ISI on USA, Israel or India?
     
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    LOL. Moody's should have a look at US debt and the bonds that they can't service / cash if the holders decide to "cash" them --- and then downgrade the US to a ridiculously low ranking.

    Please remind me what the Moody's rating for the US economy was before the massive crash / meltdown of 2007-8. If it was high / close to average, then Moody's is a worthless entity anyway.

    The US keeps printing more dollars domestically and militarily/politically subdues any country hoping to create a legitimate alternative to the US dollar as a global currency. Tools like Moody's and the IMF are just that --- tools to be used for foreign policy purposes.

    More on point: LEAs in Balochistan need to do more to secure Chinese visitors / workers.
     
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    Hopr for chinese Brothers safly back Home..
     
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    Kidnapping is regrettable...Pakistanis should look after the safety aspects instead of blaming RAW, CIA, Mossard for all their short comings.
     
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    They better be quick in rescuing them or it wont be a good thing to see in the coming days.
     
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    1.) While you are right about certain specifics, you are missing the bigger picture. It's not that simple. China doesn't have the kind of external debt that the US does. Please compare debt-to-military spending or similar figures between the US and China.

    2.) You are absolutely right. This is America's biggest tool of power. However you did not address Moody ratings of the US economy before the 2007-8 collapse. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe most ratings were more or less average and could not even predict the MASSIVE meltdown that hit the US economy... therefore there efficacy is under question.

    3.) Again, it's not that simple. Have you read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman?" Of course final responsibility is with sovereign governments but these agencies have been known to manipulate issues and serve political / foreign policy purposes for the US govt.

    4.) You're clearly new to this forum. Saying things like "begging pan" and "stop crying like a Donkey" won't get you much respect here. Unfortunately Indian govt/hyper-nationalist media type propaganda statements and hyperbole don't go too far. CPEC is here. It's the backbone of OBOR. It's going to change the country and the region, and you can watch from the sidelines. Maybe it's you who should stop finding the tiniest negative news to celebrate... or do you not have anything better to do?

    Agreed. This is also what other countries in the region should do --- we all have a habit of blaming "foreign hands" instead of our own institutions that are tasked with protection / safeguarding.
     
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    I'm sure that monkey Jhadav would know which group is behind kidnapping Chinese workers.
     
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    BB- country has been dark for 70 years
     
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    From College Girl throwing stones on Security Forces convoys in Kashmir

    To Hooded men kidnapping innocent civilians Shooting labours Blasting in Courts in Baluchistan

    This is the difference between struggle of freedom and Sponsored Terrorists.
    For those who can see without Mudded Minds its as clear as day light.
     
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    Active terrorist groups in J&K - most of them recognized as terrorist groups internationally.



    Proscribed Terrorist/Extremist Groups
    1. Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM)
    2. Harkat-ul-Ansar (HuA, presently known as Harkat-ul Mujahideen)
    3. Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT)
    4. Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM)
    5. Harkat-ul Mujahideen (HuM, previously known as Harkat-ul-Ansar)
    6. Al Badr
    7. Jamiat-ul-Mujahideen (JUM)
    8. Harkat-ul-Jehad-al-Islami(HuJI)
    9. Al Umar Mujahideen
    10. Dukhtaran-e-Millat (DeM)
    11. Front Organisations of Terrorist Groups Active in Jammu and Kashmir
    Active Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
    1. Lashkar-e-Omar (LeO)
    2. Lashkar-e-Jabbar (LeJ)
    3. Tehrik-ul-Mujahideen
    4. Jammu & Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF)
    5. All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC)
    6. Mutahida Jehad Council(MJC)
    http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/jandk/terrorist_outfits/terrorists_list_j&k.htm
     
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    You really have to give it to the Kashmiri freedom fighters for not attacking civilian targets in recent memory. It's a true struggle.

    1.) Agreed! Innovation, R&D and IP development has ensured the US economy dominates. However, the situation isn't as rosy anymore because there are real challenges coming up, especially a widening economic divide in the domestic population.

    2.) Of course only God can know everything, but it is a little shocking that the most well-reputed ratings agency did not even have any hint of a depression/recession level meltdown even months before it happened!

    3.) Yes, we are making short-term compromises for long-term strategic and economic benefit. The thing about CPEC is that it's not just about projects within CPEC (power, infrastructure, etc.) but also projects that will come as a result of these --- so it's a nice complementary effect (e.g. tourism figures have more than doubled, auto manufacturing interest has skyrocketed, etc.) And of course trade from an active port, land route + strategic military benefits from the rapidly modernizing Chinese security apparatus.

    4.) Apology accepted; I did not mean my reaction to be odd either.
     
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    Indian-sponsored terrorists going after soft targets.


    Shame on India.
     
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    Law and order needs to improve as any harm to chinese will effect CPEC.
     
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    I respectfully disagree with your take. I reiterate the point that, unlike Apple, China's initiative offers a vast array of benefits that are not necessarily coming out of the CPEC accounts --- for example, increased sharing of military tech, generally increased tourism, massively increased trade, general investor confidence, etc. It's difficult to put a value on these things, as they are long-term and strategic. You are free to disagree with this view.

    I think when foreign powers want to play countries like India and Pakistan against their neighbors, they are generally successful... just like the US will help India build itself (in the media, with its Navy, etc.) as a buffer against increasing Chinese influence in Asia.

    Finally, I do agree with you to some extent --- I also strongly believe that our alliance with Saudi Arabia has been lopsided and our pathetic leaders have not been able to leverage it correctly. We must actively seek better ties, both economics, military and political, with Iran. One huge step was not committing ourselves to the Saudi war in Yemen --- a few years ago, this was inconceivable. But we said no. And hopefully we will find a better balance in the near future as, in my personal opinion, Wahabbism (and similar schools like Deobandi), have done a great deal of damage to our society.

    Without being in Pakistan, it's hard to get a sense of the confidence here. In the news and to our enemies, it seems like endless turmoil. To us, things haven't looked better in years. Time will tell :)

    It's good to know who your enemies are.

    But then the real shame is on our own institutions who are unable to stop these foreign designs. We must hold them accountable rather than constantly pointing fingers abroad.

    I totally agree with your assessment BTW --- I'm just saying we need "a little less conversation, a little more action."
     
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