Bro Milden and Ts-1700 is a diffrent projects.so basically we have
4 x Ada Class 2,400 tons
1 x Ada Class Hull test and training ship
4 x I Class with 3,000 tons
how many x OPV 1,900 tons planed?
how many x OPV 2,100 tons planned?
4-6 x TF2000 DDG at over 7,000+ tons?
6 x MILDEM Class called TS1700?
Ts-1700 is a simple Turkish Type-214. Same class But local made one. Last time I remembered we are producing our type-214's %80 local made. Behind the idea of stm ts-1700 gaining itar free producing and exporting advanced aip subs.
Makeing Type-214 like sub is not a poor thing. Type 214 can easily reach usa and return without any additional supply just in 25 days for arrive and 25 days for return. Also with help of his aip capability he can pass all mediterranien underwater without snorkeling. So they need just 3 times surfaceing for reaching usa and most of hims in ocean. Also with help of his electric engines it's hard to find when compared to ssbn or ssn's. Also he have a 3 months endurance on waters.
On the other hand ts-1700's will have integraded two type torpedo countermeasures who named zargana and also integrated anti torpedo torpedo tork. By the way he can be carry 8x torpedo + 8x (atmaca ssm or land attack, gezgin, idas) when compared type 209's 8x torpedo + 4x (atmaca ssm or land attack, gezgin) capabilities.
And last one thing. Currently our old type 209 subs will sail generally 40 around crew. But this new subs (type 214/ ts-1700) more advanced more autonoums so they need less crew like 22 aroun almost 3/2. So thats when a merge with new advanced small sized subsytems behalf of old bigger ones , that will gives to crew more live space , and 1 bed for 1 crew and last one more shower and wc for per crew.
Look our most modern type 209 subs , pipes, valves indicator everywhere + very tight holes and rooms + 2 restroom + 1 bathroom for 40 crew.
And thats the 10 years old portugal type-214 al the way better inside than type-209's
Milden is a diffrent story. We are work on concept todays. Currently we know Milden 2017 concept. But I believe with my all heart that specs will change. Just because thats sub designed for the min 2013-2015 perspecteive but many things will changed in 5-7 years and more than will change until first milden be operational.
But if we evaluate milden-2017 concept, we are see x rudder diffrent nose any many conceptual diffrences when compared Ts-1700/Type-214. I liked him, Currently in this design doesnt see vls for ssm and cruise missile. Looks like Milden-2017 will use torpedo tube launched missiles like a olds.
Bigger diffrences of milden-2017 on the performance. I'm not waiting increaseing the range, Just because 19000 km around is a standart for aip. Yeah shortfin barracuda have more range than but that is the diffrent story. So generally all new aip subs dont want to increase range they are generally want a max speed for a 19000 km max range. I mean main diffrences of milden and ts-1700 one of them will reach 19000 km with 4-6 knot other one ise 8-10 knot. And also one of them must need snorkeling every 2500 km other one 5000 km around. Just because thats related its size whit help of his extra 10 meter lenght they will have more bigger power puck and also bigger or more numbered aip modules . And also Milden will be have more torpedo and missile storage thand type-214 and ts-1700 +4 torpedo and missile I'm think. (total 20 )
That's the specs of three concept ;
I dont know we are make a Ts-1700 for us but looks like we will produce 6x milden also we will have 6x type 214. İn a 1 year ago I heard many rumors about we will not decommision any subs behalf of type 209 for enlargement of fleet and for a east-med politics. And I hope we are enlarge our fleet size to 18 . 6x Milden Long range Nuclear Cruise Missile Strike Aip + 6x Type 2014 Fleet Strike Aip and 6x Ts-1700 Fleet Strike Aip. I think we will produce 6x ts-1700 2018-2023.
But like I say before Milden design and specs will change. Just because if you need a 166 metered 7000+ (min 10000 tonnes for me) Heavy Destroyer/Small Cruiser Tf-2000 , also we work on gezgin kind nuclear, bio, chemical warhead capable cruise missile also regional gps, mrbm-icbm's and his subsystems, slv's and also aircraft carriers Milden 2017 doesnt efficent for escorting that kind of naval groups and carrying that kind of naval weaponary in longer ranges.
I'm not meaning we will make a ssbn's but 'm waiting to mildens design will increase the lenght + add a vls + 20 knot-19000 km range capacity and 4 months endurance like a Long range aips like type 216's , Shortfin Barracuda, A-26 Ocean Er etc.
Hdw Type 216 ;
Shortfin Barracuda ;
A-26 Ocean ER