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For those who are curious about the fully equipped version of the TİYK-M60T modernization
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Volkan-M Fire Control System,
New Tank command and control information system,
Remote-controlled stabilized weapon platform,
Additional armor protection,
Tank driver vision system,
Crew seats and new interfaces,
New type of fire extinguishing and explosion suppression system,
New Life support system,
New type auxiliary power pack,
Protection lining,
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PULAT Active protection system,
TEPES - Telescopic E/O System,
YAMGÖZ Situational awareness and multi-mode surveillance system integrated with weapon and hardkill systems,
TLUS New generation tank laser warning system.

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I think the PULAT APS thing has a major design flaw.

A tank should be able to bust through a wall, climb a steep incline. The PULAT bump could very well be damaged or limit the tanks ability to climb steep inclines.

35mm effective range is 4-5km, vs. 2-3km of 30mm.
A 120mm cannon maximum direct fire range is 4-5km, 35mm and 30mm are lower than that.
Both are limited to 2-3km.
 

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Alternative power group selected for Next Generation Storm Howitzer!​


The design work for the Storm howitzer of the UTKU power group, the domestic solution of BMC POWER, has been completed.

It is planned to continue mass production of New Generation Storm Howitzers with the local power group UTKU from 2025. New Generation Storm Howitzers include subsystems such as automatic fire extinguishing system, auxiliary power group and remote-controlled weapon system. BMC Defense can also carry out the marketing and sales activities of the New Generation Storm Howitzers, but the final approval is given by the Ministry of National Defense.

The first 10 of the New Generation Storm Howitzers are produced with a backup power group (supplied from Korea). The next 15 howitzers will be procured from another country and produced. The tests of the mentioned 15 power groups have been completed. The UTKU power pack will be integrated into the Next Generation Storm Howitzer from 25 units. Mass production of Storm howitzers will continue in Arifiye. Power groups used in Tanks or Howitzers can be changed in the process. At this point, foreign origin power groups can be replaced with domestic alternatives by retrofitting.

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UTKU Power Group is Ready for the “Storm”​

The design work for the Storm howitzer of the UTKU power group has been completed. In the statement made by BMC Power General Manager Mustafa Kaval, it was stated that orders for production were passed to subcontractors. In this context, it was stated that Fırtına howitzers will receive domestic engines in 2025. In addition, UTKU will be run as a power group in the near future. Until now, the engine and transmission have been operated separately.

It has been announced that it is aimed to achieve more than 75% locality in the UTKU and BATU power groups. In addition, it has been announced that 10 UTKU and 6 BATU engine prototypes have been produced so far. In this context, BMC Power has a production capacity of 1,000 engines per year. The company has the ability to produce approximately 800 cylinders and 200 v motors per year.


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The 1000 horsepower domestic cross-drive transmission and engine UTKU were operated.​

The operation of the UTKU engine and transmission was carried out by the President of Defense Industry Prof. Dr. İsmail Demir announced on his Twitter account.




The engine and cross-drive transmission developed within the scope of the project are planned to be used in armored vehicles to be produced within the scope of the New Generation Light Armored Vehicle (YNHZA) project.

The first start-up of the UTKU Engine was announced in 2021​

Mesude Kılınç, Head of SSB Engine and Power Transmission Systems Department, at the Defense Technologies 2021 event organized by the Istanbul Technical University Defense Technologies Club, about the Utku Power Group developed for new generation light armored vehicles, we care about the localization of critical subsystems. Although it increases the difficulty of these projects, we attach great importance to the localization of these critical subsystems both for the creation of our infrastructure and for the continuation of our work in these projects.” had statements.

In this context , Kilinc emphasized that many critical subsystems of the engine and transmission were developed locally. The critical subsystems developed locally are as follows;

  • Turbocharger
  • Electronic Engine Control Unit
  • Tork Converter
  • Hydro-Static Steering Unit
  • Electronic Transmission Control Unit
  • Transmission Brake System
 

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I think the PULAT APS thing has a major design flaw.

A tank should be able to bust through a wall, climb a steep incline. The PULAT bump could very well be damaged or limit the tanks ability to climb steep inclines.

First of all, please don't bust through any big walls and risk damage to the gun, optics etc. It's a problem with or without Pulat

For small walls, and for climbing hills it won't be a problem because it's located in the upper glacis plate, and there's really no better place to put it.

It could be an issue in very limited circumstances
 

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I think the PULAT APS thing has a major design flaw.

A tank should be able to bust through a wall, climb a steep incline. The PULAT bump could very well be damaged or limit the tanks ability to climb steep inclines.


A 120mm cannon maximum direct fire range is 4-5km, 35mm and 30mm are lower than that.
Both are limited to 2-3km.

120 maximum firing range is 4-5km because it's the limit of line of sight on a flat terrain.

Tanks can fling shells far longer than that with enough gun elevation

It could be an issue in very limited circumstances

In the future, it can certainly be put onto some kind of a hinge
 

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In the future, it can certainly be put onto some kind of a hinge
You think the tank will go through walls outside of combat where Pulat needs not be deployed?

We're going through walls in the safety of our division HQ. :lol:


I don't think we need to create solutions for once in a million year problems . This is it, this is the system, it beats getting hit by ATGMs. Whatever limitations of the system there might be, will get outweighed by not being blown to pieces.
 

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120 maximum firing range is 4-5km because it's the limit of line of sight on a flat terrain.

Tanks can fling shells far longer than that with enough gun elevation
You could have enemies on a mountain and see them from even 15 kilometres away. But you won't try to target enemies more than 5km away. It just isn't accurate.

After 4-5km it's not effective at all. You aren't accurate. 35mm and 30mm aren't effective beyond 3km.

First of all, please don't bust through any big walls and risk damage to the gun, optics etc. It's a problem with or without Pulat

For small walls, and for climbing hills it won't be a problem because it's located in the upper glacis plate, and there's really no better place to put it.

It could be an issue in very limited circumstances

Tanks should be able to climb anti-tank tunnels, PULAT would be a problem in that circumstance for example.

don't think we need to create solutions for once in a million year problems . This is it, this is the system, it beats getting hit by ATGMs. Whatever limitations of the system there might be, will get outweighed by not being blown to pieces.
Yeah I agree with that, but the drivers need to keep that in mind.
 
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After 4-5km it's not effective at all. You aren't accurate. 35mm and 30mm aren't effective beyond 3km.

35x228 has double the kinetic energy of 30x173, and muzzle velocities of around 1400m/s to 1600m/s for APDS

It can shoot at fast flyers at 4.5km per Rheinmetall, there is no question it can lob HE quite a bit further than that at ground targets
 

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35x228 has double the kinetic energy of 30x173, and muzzle velocities of around 1400m/s to 1600m/s for APDS

It can shoot at fast flyers at 4.5km per Rheinmetall, there is no question it can lob HE quite a bit further than that at ground targets
4.5km when flying at a straight line towards the system probably.

Also APDS shells have way more range than HE shells. And again, it won't be accurate at all.
 

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Aselsan new concept, TUNGA


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Thisdesign was one of the award-winning projects presented in the 2015 edition of FNSS's traditional MILDESIGN competition.


The other possibility is that TUNGA is the vehicle design used by presentations on near-future warfare concepts.

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There is no official statement yet confirming the final design of the concept. However, estimates suggest that it is based on one of these concept designs.
 
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