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If a leader is making irrational decisions, then it is important to question such decisions instead of pinning the blame on external players for drawing a line, settle for inferior solutions, and/or embark on extremely ambitious projects which may or may not deliver. Rationality takes a back seat otherwise.

Closely study the S-400 system, and focus on developing a similar system of your own. Try to reach an understanding with USA for this matter and a way forward. Developing a 5th generation aircraft from scratch is expected to be a far more expensive and difficult undertaking in comparison.

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Rational suggestions. Turkey-US relation won't be frozen forever, after Erdogan goes situation will be changed, and I believe Turkey will get F-35, it is only a matter of time. Develop a SAM system required much less work and time than a 5-gen fighter and may be affordable for Turkey.
 

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Well, then you have no choice at all. Saab uses US engines.
I was talking about the Volvo Aero RM12 - which is based on a GE-F404 - but is superior to that ...
so turkey would gain some know-how - how to further develop or upgrade existing engines... Like I was talking about the GE110 to GE132 upgrade if that is possible :)

Maybe I should say that Turkey is ruled out by UK/US....?
Yes... please ;)
 

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very bad move of turkey f-35 was future of TUAF for next 40 years like f-16s . this is what happen when politicians involve in defense matters . urdogan's cheap shot but TUAF will pay the price .
 

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I was talking about the Volvo Aero RM12 - which is based on a GE-F404 - but is superior to that ...
so turkey would gain some know-how - how to further develop or upgrade existing engines... Like I was talking about the GE110 to GE132 upgrade if that is possible :)



Yes... please ;)
You already know it is inherited from US technology, then you must know US can put restrictions on it. Huawei just proved this for you.:(
Engines cannot be upgraded, you can only repair it, or just replace it wholy
 

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They are going to use UCAV as fighter jets :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

We are not the stupid one who ad a turbofan engine in smart bomb and trying to make it cruise missile. The one who thinks they have ToT but nothing then assemble line.:omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

Now go back to your cave and try to make from a smart bomb a cruise missile...
 

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We are not the stupid one who ad a turbofan engine in smart bomb and trying to make it cruise missile. The one who thinks they have ToT but nothing then assemble line.:omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

Now go back to your cave and try to make from a smart bomb a cruise missile...
Lol, you import many parts in your missiles and call it indigenous. You are like the Indian panjeets.
 

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Do you think Japan can make a fifth gen fighter alone if it was given a budget of say 1 trillion dollars?
You shouldn't ask a Chinese guy about Japan capabilities - they have no problems in developing stuff superior to the most defense industries... I beefed about that with another Chinese bot - luckily littlefish is not like him...

They only needed 12yrs:rofl: for a whole fighter together with a lot of test flights and developing an own engine the "XF5 turbofan engine" with a thrust-to-weight ratio of around 8:1, its performance is in the range around 49 kN.
 

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