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Turkey’s Uyghur dilemma in the context of China’s Belt and Road Initiative

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By the way, where are the Pakistanis who talk 24/7 about Ummah Ummah Ummah?

Why don't you call Erdogan out for his betrayel of the Uighur cause?

Guess Pakistanis do not love the Ummah nearly as much as they always claim to do...
 

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Erdogan was the first world leader who called the treatment of Uighurs a genocide, long before the West called it a genocide.

So if the Uighur genocide is really manufactured, then it was manufactured by Erdogan, not by the West!!!
well, ask him what changed his mind

The Armenian genocide was manufactured? Excuse me?
or grossly exaggerated? who knows. I sure didn't find those 'evidences' very compelling to suggest a genocide ever took place, and I don't even like Turkey..

could be why majority of the world still doesn't recognize it
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well, ask him what changed his mind


or grossly exaggerated? who knows. I sure didn't find those 'evidences' very compelling to suggest a genocide ever took place, and I don't even like Turkey..

could be why majority of the world still doesn't recognize it
Countries that Recognize the Armenian Genocide (armenian-genocide.org)
The genocide of Greeks took place side by side with the Armenian one and I can tell you,it was very real. My own grandfather barely escaped from the massacre of his entire village in Yozgat province. My paternal and part of my maternal grandparents and great-grandparents respectively,came from Anatolia when the Turks started butchering entire villages and towns.
 

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By the way, where are the Pakistanis who talk 24/7 about Ummah Ummah Ummah?

Why don't you call Erdogan out for his betrayel of the Uighur cause?

Guess Pakistanis do not love the Ummah nearly as much as they always claim to do...
Then who is going to fight for justice of Palestine, Syrian, Kashmir and Kurdish? Why selective target Uyghur of China as victim only? Becos it suite western and anti-China stance, right? Nothing to do with righteous or really concern for Uyghur.

Supporting this evil clause is just gonna cause more misery against Uyghur. Look at afghan. What has the western do for them? Their interfere just cause more misery.


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Just as I expected, no Pakistani cares....but actually it makes sense, Pakistanis are like Turks!
Turks are not only indifferent, but complicit in the Uighur oppression.
And Pakistanis are also not only indifferent, but actively complicit in the oppression of Uighurs!




And at the same time, Pakistanis demand solidarity for Kashmir!

Muslim Kashmiris live in paradise compared to Muslim Uighurs!

But I know, oppression of Kashmiris is real, and oppression of Uighurs is fake, of course...

All the Ummah Ummah talk of Pakistanis is only a show, nothing else!
 

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Just as I expected, no Pakistani cares....but actually it makes sense, Pakistanis are like Turks!
Turks are not only indifferent, but complicit in the Uighur oppression.
And Pakistanis are also not only indifferent, but actively complicit in the oppression of Uighurs!




And at the same time, Pakistanis demand solidarity for Kashmir!

Muslim Kashmiris live in paradise compared to Muslim Uighurs!

But I know, oppression of Kashmiris is real, and oppression of Uighurs is fake, of course...

All the Ummah Ummah talk of Pakistanis is only a show, nothing else!
It's all politics.

And they think that Erdy cares about Palestine and Kashmir? He only talks about it and threatens Israel with words. But that's what Iran had been doing for years too. I'm not saying they are stupid to fight against Israel,they are actually smart enough to keep the crowds and their fans satisfied and do nothing to "liberate" or help the Palestinians effectively. Or the Kashmir Pakistanis or the Uyghurs.
 

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Now even this Indian site is highlighting the hipocracy of the Turks, and they have every right to do so: Kashmiri oppression is harmless compared to Uighur oppression!

And Pakistanis have also given Indians the perfect ammunition: whenever Pakistanis get angry over the treatment of Kashmiris, the Indians can point at the active involvement of Pakistanis in the Uighur oppression, which is way worse than Kashmiri oppression!!!

But I know, Ummah Ummah Ummah....
 

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The Uyghurs wiped out the Tocharians of Iranian descent,
intresting. intresting. Tocharians spoke a Sanskrit like language and wrote in a script similar to Brahmi, and practiced Buddhism. but I didn't find any evidence they were "wiped out", it seems like a general assimilation. but I haven't looked at DNA data and stuff or did any research so who knows.
but good insight on Chinese nationalist thinking on Uyghur issue.
 

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intresting. intresting. Tocharians spoke a Sanskrit like language and wrote in a script similar to Brahmi, and practiced Buddhism. but I didn't find any evidence they were "wiped out", it seems like a general assimilation. but I haven't looked at DNA data and stuff or did any research so who knows.
but good insight on Chinese nationalist thinking on Uyghur issue.
The so-called assimilation in ancient times was killing men and raping women. The ancient Egyptians were replaced by Arabs, and Arabs became Egyptians. Now Uyghurs, some resemble East Asians, and more of them look like Caucasian genes.
 

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Just as I expected, no Pakistani cares....but actually it makes sense, Pakistanis are like Turks!
Turks are not only indifferent, but complicit in the Uighur oppression.
Who told you the Turks don't care. Whether the matter regarding the Uighurs is real or fake, it doesn't matter. China is very rich now, they have a lot of assets, technology patents.... If China is a weak country like the Qing Dynasty. , I'm 100% sure there will be a new version of the 8 country alliance, but this time not 8 but 10, even 20 countries marching into China to rob-rape-kill with the aim of protect the liberties and rights of the Uighurs.

If Xinjiang secedes from China and becomes an independent country, it will permanently weaken China, and at the same time Turkey has more voice, it can influence China in the long run.
 
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The Armenian genocide was manufactured? Excuse me?
don't expect any logic in genocide denial. it's an art. all of Turkey still denies the Armenian genocide despite overwhelming evidence. Holocaust is still denied by neo-Nazis despite, again, overwhelming evidence. it's the attitude of "didn't happen, but it would have been good if it did happen, don't expect anything from us, or we'll do it again". visit subreddits like /r/2MiddleEastForYou and see there. mainstream denial still happens in /r/Turkey but they don't say as much there.
 

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This is how China genocides Xinjiang, burying the region with money, Free housing, free education, free healthcare, free daily milk supply for children from 0-7 years old, free school meals, free yearly physical checkup....

Heavy investment in highways, airports, Hight speed railways, subways, schools, libraries, parks, museums,hospitals...

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Just as I expected, no Pakistani cares....but actually it makes sense, Pakistanis are like Turks!
Turks are not only indifferent, but complicit in the Uighur oppression.
And Pakistanis are also not only indifferent, but actively complicit in the oppression of Uighurs!




And at the same time, Pakistanis demand solidarity for Kashmir!

Muslim Kashmiris live in paradise compared to Muslim Uighurs!

But I know, oppression of Kashmiris is real, and oppression of Uighurs is fake, of course...

All the Ummah Ummah talk of Pakistanis is only a show, nothing else!
Why demand action for Uyghur from Pakistan? You own business, clear it yourself.

Typical selective action from western world with no a single Western politician and media taking concrete action to address Kashmir muslim plight tissue while so much attention of China Uyghur. Its nothing human right or religion but just a cheap political cheapshot to sabotage rising China. Those who support China Uyghur issue are just supporting western imperialism putting more misery for countries like Kashmir, Palestine, Syria, Iraq and Libya.
 

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Why demand action for Uyghur from Pakistan? You own business, clear it yourself.

Typical selective action from western world with no a single Western politician and media taking concrete action to address Kashmir muslim plight tissue while so much attention of China Uyghur. Its nothing human right or religion but just a cheap political cheapshot to sabotage rising China. Those who support China Uyghur issue are just supporting western imperialism putting more misery for countries like Kashmir, Palestine, Syria, Iraq and Libya.
Pakistan itself is also facing the Baluchistan independence movement. I often read the tweets of these people. They say that the Pakistani army suppresses them. They have no water and no wells. As long as you want to separate politically, it is always easy to find a reason
 

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Erdogan was the first leader in the world who talked about a Uighur genocide, and now....how pathetic he is! :lol:
 

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