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Your enthusiasm blind yourself. Iran resist West pressure for 40 years. Can Turkey do that? Unlikely. Turkey rely on west deeply, such as technology, market, finance, security. Turkey will collapse under huge pressure.

Russia resist West pressure for more than 100 years. USSR achievement is much higher than Turkey. Just look at Turkey economy under Erdogan administration, what a mess.

You have nothing to brag. Is there anything Turkey is leading the world? Can you name one? Just one? Nothing, absolutely nothing. Be humble, it's good for a human being, and a country.

Turkey Lira devalued from 1.4/USD to 5.7/USD.


Turkey economy is sinking, GDP is shrinking.


Core inflation is high



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This is not the place for this. Please don't go off topic. This is a serious thread.
 

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Your enthusiasm blind yourself. Iran resist West pressure for 40 years. Can Turkey do that? Unlikely. Turkey rely on west deeply, such as technology, market, finance, security. Turkey will collapse under huge pressure.

The Turks fought more than 100 times with the British , French , Germans , Italians , Spaniards , Poles , Greeks and many more Europeans since 1096 CRUSADES

The Turks including Huns raped Europe for 1200 years between the 4th century and 1699

wth are Russia and Iran ? nothing ... and Russia,Iran,China,N.Korea,etc are helping each others against the West



1 ) Turkey lost over $1 trillion to fight against the US , The UK , France , Israel , Germany backed PKK Terrorism for 35 years since 1984

2 ) Turkey lost hundreds of billions of dollars because of the US backed military coups in Turkey by 1960 , 1971 , 1980 , 1997 and last one military coup attempt by 2016

3 ) Turkish Economy lost over $500 billion since 2013 because of Turkish Economy under attack by the US


so the Turks can find money but another motherland ? never
The Turkish Armed Forces never will allow the US , The UK , France , Israel , Germany to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity by PKK/YPG terrorists

Therefore today The Turkish Armed Forces have started military operation in N.Syria against PKK/YPG terrorists to protect Turkish People and Turkey's territorial integrity
 

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This is not the place for this. Please don't go off topic. This is a serious thread.
I am very serious. How to evaluate the future in Syria? You can't make judgement without the balance of power. My post just calm donw those who brag about how Turkey is powerful.

Just look at Turkey economy, I knew Erdogan have to invade Syria and take Arab land. Erdogan has no other choices otherwise he will not survive in political struggle and he will lose next election.

That's my prediction. Turkey will try everything he can to grab as much land as possible from Arab.
 

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Not exactly sure why anyone here is surprised that the west is standing with Turkey. The US/Nato are not going to give up Turkey for the Kurds in Syria whom barely account to 8% of syria's population. The kurd's failed to play the long game and we are witnessing the results of their failure. The prefer to allow strangers to take advantage of them instead of cooperating with their home countries.
 

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The Turks fought more than 100 times with the British , French , Germans , Italians , Spaniards , Poles , Greeks and many more Europeans since 1096 CRUSADES

The Turks including Huns raped Europe for 1200 years between the 4th century and 1699

wth are Russia and Iran ? nothing ... and Russia,Iran,China,N.Korea,etc are helping each others against the West



1 ) Turkey lost over $1 trillion to fight against the US , The UK , France , Israel , Germany backed PKK Terrorism for 35 years since 1984

2 ) Turkey lost hundreds of billions of dollars because of the US backed military coups in Turkey by 1960 , 1971 , 1980 , 1997 and last one military coup attempt by 2016

3 ) Turkish Economy lost over $500 billion since 2013 because of Turkish Economy under attack by the US


so the Turks can find money but another motherland ? never
The Turkish Armed Forces never will allow the US , The UK , France , Israel , Germany to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity by PKK/YPG terrorists
How ridiculous. If you are back stabbed by West for so many years, you are still part of NATO? You lost so much land and money because West hurt you, you still bagging west nowadays and give Incirlik to NATO? Your statement contradict with reality.

The truth is, you can't live without west. You are no different from many other countries as lapdog.

While Russia and Iran stand against West for decades. They still stand, Turkey can NOT.
 

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Your enthusiasm blind yourself. Iran resist West pressure for 40 years. Can Turkey do that? Unlikely. Turkey rely on west deeply, such as technology, market, finance, security. Turkey will collapse under huge pressure.

Russia resist West pressure for more than 100 years. USSR achievement is much higher than Turkey. Just look at Turkey economy under Erdogan administration, what a mess.

You have nothing to brag. Is there anything Turkey is leading the world? Can you name one? Just one? Nothing, absolutely nothing. Be humble, it's good for a human being, and a country.

Turkey Lira devalued from 1.4/USD to 5.7/USD.


Turkey economy is sinking, GDP is shrinking.


Core inflation is high



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Turks fought and defeated European Crusaders and nations more than any other nation in the world. We have been fighting them for more than 1,000 years. We were involved and the front line in nearly all crusades against numerous nations. So go and read some history
 

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Not exactly sure why anyone here is surprised that the west is standing with Turkey. The US/Nato are not going to give up Turkey for the Kurds in Syria whom barely account to 8% of syria's population. The kurd's failed to play the long game and we are witnessing the results of their failure. The prefer to allow strangers to take advantage of them instead of cooperating with their home countries.
I agree. If US back out, Kurds' future is very dark. The best opportunity is when Turkey shot down Russian Jet. They can claim their country at that moment. They are too greedy and want to take more land, so they wait.

Its' kind of too late. But who knows what will happen next. No one knows what will happen with Trump in charge.
 

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Just look at Turkey economy, I knew Erdogan have to invade Syria and take Arab land. Erdogan has no other choices otherwise he will not survive in political struggle and he will lose next election.
stop lying

Turkey is in Syria to fight terrorism ( UN article 51 self-defense )
Turkey saved 3,5 million Syrians and Turkey spent over $40 billion for over 3,5 million Syrian refugees in Turkey
Turkey protect over 6 million Syrians in Idlib,Afrin,Jarablus,Azez,Dabıq,Al Bab from ASSAD Regime , Iran backed terrorist groups , PKK/YPG and ISIS Terrorists
Turkish Army killed over 3.000 ISIS Terrorists in Syria


on the other hand

Russia and Iran killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Syrian People
The US-The UK and France are in Syria to invade 30% of Syrian territory by PKK/YPG Terrorists to destroy Syria's Territory for American - Israeli interests

Kurdish Population is about 5% in Syria ..... but the US backed PKK/YPG Terrorists invaded Arab and Turkmen cities (30% of Syrian territory ) ... and PKK/YPG Terrorists killed thousands of Arabs-Turkmens and forced hundreds of thousands of Arabs-Turkmens to move to Turkey from their lands in N.Syria

now the Turkish Armed Forces has started kicking PKK/YPG Terrorists out of Arab and Turkmen cities
 

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Turks fought and defeated European Crusaders and nations more than any other nation in the world. We have been fighting them for more than 1,000 years. We were involved and the front line in nearly all crusades against numerous nations. So go and read some history
No one care what Ottoman Empire did hundreds years ago. It's Ottoman Empire not Turkey.

Ottoman Empire was dismembered by Great British, Russian, Arab and many others. But the most important reason is Ottoman Empire itself. Ottoman was dinosaur, stopped evolving and can't adapt the new world. Ancient China Empire collapse for the same reason.

The most important thing is, does Turkey learn from Ottoman Empire dissolution or not? I highly doubt Erdogan judgement.
Does China learn from Ancient China Empire collapse? Yes, we do.

stop lying

Turkey is in Syria to fight terrorism ( UN article 51 self-defense )
Turkey saved 3,5 million Syrians and Turkey spent over $40 billion for over 3,5 million Syrian refugees in Turkey
Turkey protect over 6 million Syrians in Idlib,Afrin,Jarablus,Azez,Dabıq,Al Bab from ASSAD Regime , Iran backed terrorist groups , PKK/YPG and ISIS Terrorists
Turkish Army killed over 3.000 ISIS Terrorists in Syria


on the other hand

Russia and Iran killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Syrian People
The US-The UK and France are in Syria to invade 30% of Syrian territory by PKK/YPG Terrorists to destroy Syria's Territory for American - Israeli interests

Kurdish Population is about 5% in Syria ..... but the US backed PKK/YPG Terrorists invaded Arab and Turkmen cities (30% of Syrian territory ) ... and PKK/YPG Terrorists killed thousands of Arabs-Turkmens and forced hundreds of thousands of Arabs-Turkmens to move to Turkey from their lands in N.Syria

now the Turkish Armed Forces has started kicking PKK/YPG Terrorists out of Arab and Turkmen cities
Turkey helped refugees in Turkey, Yes I agree.
Turkey help West to destabilize Syria, Yes, everyone knew it.
Don't play victim card, I don't buy it.

Putin: Turkey shot down jet to protect ISIL oil supply
Why isn’t the media covering Turkish President Erdogan’s ties to ISIS


Erdogan misjudged the war completely, he thought Assad will be killed soon just like Gaddafi. so Erdogan tried everything Turkey can to destroy Syria. Turkey transported Libya weapons and gave to ISIS and many other militants. Turkey helped ISIS to sell their oil. Turkey as well as Yanks have hundreds of thousands of Arab Muslim blood on hands.

Erdogan's son Berat Albayrak get tons of money from the dirty business.

But Yanks backstabbed Turkey, Yanks help Kurds to create another country within Syria border. That's why Erdogan is so angry.

No one is as innocent as a baby. Everyone involved are fighting for interest. Some are a little better, some are worse, that's it.

Stop label yourself as moral high ground. No one truly believe it.
 
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The truth is, you can't live without west. You are no different from many other countries as lapdog.

While Russia and Iran stand against West for decades. They still stand, Turkey can NOT.
if you are so ignorant , its your problem

The TURKS stand against West for centuries since 1096 CRUSADES and Turkey still stand

-- British helped Persians to destroy Turkish Dynasty in Iran by 1925 ( Turkish Dynasties ruled Iran between 960s and 1925 )
-- Russians always were allies with Europe to fight against the Turks between 1500s and WW1 (1915 )
-- The US saved pathetic Russia from Germany in WW2
-- The US saved pathetic China from Japan in WW2

and Iran is ally with Russia and China

and now The TURKS kick the US,The UK,France,,Israel and their ugly smelly PKK/YPG Terrorists in Syria




How ridiculous. If you are back stabbed by West for so many years, you are still part of NATO? You lost so much land and money because West hurt you, you still bagging west nowadays and give Incirlik to NATO? Your statement contradict with reality.
Therefor Turkey has started developing over 700 military projects to become real independent military power in the next 10-15 years

Putin: Turkey shot down jet to protect ISIL oil supply
Why isn’t the media covering Turkish President Erdogan’s ties to ISIS


Erdogan misjudged the war completely, he thought Assad will be killed soon just like Gaddafi. so Erdogan tried everything Turkey can to destroy Syria. Turkey transported Libya weapons and gave to ISIS and many other militants. Turkey helped ISIS to sell their oil. Turkey as well as Yanks have hundreds of thousands of Arab Muslim blood on hands.

Erdogan's son Berat Albayrak get tons of money from the dirty business.

But Yanks backstabbed Turkey, Yanks help Kurds to create another country within Syria border. That's why Erdogan is so angry.

No one is as innocent as a baby. Everyone involved are fighting for interest. Some are a little better, some are worse, that's it.

Stop label yourself as moral high ground. No one truly believe it.

Russia and China are MASTER of cheap propaganda and lies
No more your lies and cheap propaganda wont work


The Hero Turkish Army is the only Coalition and NATO country army in the Euphrates Shield to fight the ISIS terrorist organization in the field
 

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Therefor Turkey has started developing over 700 military projects to become real independent military power in the next 10-15 years
Good first step. Before that, still rely on west. The west can close market, cut financial connection and threaten you with advanced weapon.

While China can provide market, financing, and weapon cooperation which will mitigate the threat from the west. China offered rocket artillery technology, and HQ-9 TOT. Also when Turkey Lira collapsed, China offered financing.

China tendered Olive branch for many times, it's up to Turkey take it or not.
 

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Good first step. Before that, still rely on west. The west can close market, cut financial connection and threaten you with advanced weapon.

While China can provide market, financing, and weapon cooperation which will mitigate the threat from the west. China offered rocket artillery technology, and HQ-9 TOT. Also when Turkey Lira collapsed, China offered financing.

China tendered Olive branch for many times, it's up to Turkey take it or not.
You loose the contract after opening what you offer by means of ToT!
 

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France, Britain, Germany to condemn Turkish offensive in Syria

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...demn-turkish-offensive-in-syria-idUSKBN1WO1ZS

Canada condemns Turkish military invasion in northeast Syria

https://globalnews.ca/news/6012416/canada-condemns-freeland-turkey-strike/


France's Macron met spokeswoman of Kurdish-led Syria SDF forces

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-france/frances-macron-met-spokeswoman-of-kurdish-led-syria-sdf-forces-idUSKBN1WO1D5

As a US military veteran, Trump's betrayal of the Kurds in Syria horrifies me

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-turkey-syria-kurds-war-military-army-veteran-a9149711.html


Germany’s foreign minister is condemning Turkey

The secretary-general of NATO is urging Turkey not to “further destabilize the region”

Egypt condemns Turkey operation in north Syria

https://wkow.com/news/national-news-from-the-associated-press/2019/10/09/the-latest-trump-defends-syria-pull-back-on-twitter/
 

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France, Britain, Germany to condemn Turkish offensive in Syria

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...demn-turkish-offensive-in-syria-idUSKBN1WO1ZS

Canada condemns Turkish military invasion in northeast Syria

https://globalnews.ca/news/6012416/canada-condemns-freeland-turkey-strike/


France's Macron met spokeswoman of Kurdish-led Syria SDF forces

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-france/frances-macron-met-spokeswoman-of-kurdish-led-syria-sdf-forces-idUSKBN1WO1D5

As a US military veteran, Trump's betrayal of the Kurds in Syria horrifies me

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-turkey-syria-kurds-war-military-army-veteran-a9149711.html


Germany’s foreign minister is condemning Turkey

The secretary-general of NATO is urging Turkey not to “further destabilize the region”

Egypt condemns Turkey operation in north Syria

https://wkow.com/news/national-news-from-the-associated-press/2019/10/09/the-latest-trump-defends-syria-pull-back-on-twitter/
The west begin to defend Syria sovereignty, the world is changing quickly!
 

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