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Turkish Aerospace, Motor Sich ink deal for heavy-class helicopter engines
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A T929 Atak 2 helicopter at the TAI compound, Ankara, Turkey, June 29, 2021. (IHA Photo)
BY DAILY SABAH
JUN 29, 2021 12:29 PM
Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI), which is undertaking the country’s heavy class attack helicopter project, T929, also known as Atak 2, will supply the chopper’s engines from Ukraine under a newly signed contract with engine-producing giant Motor Sich, the company confirmed Tuesday.
TAI will acquire a total of 14 engines, it said. This procurement was previously reported but there was no official announcement until now.
The company statement noted that the work continues for the helicopter to be developed within the project under an agreement signed between the Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB) and TAI.
TAI referred to the development as another important threshold completed for this particular helicopter development, which will have approximately twice the takeoff weight of the current Atak helicopter.
According to the contract between Ukraine’s Motor Sich and TAI, the engines are planned to be delivered by 2025, with the first delivery of two units scheduled for September 2022.
TAI General Manager Temel Kotil, whose views were included in the company statement, said that they have completed another important and critical stage for the helicopter that will fly in 2023.

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Officials from TAI, Motor Sich seen during the signing of the engine procurement deal, Ankara, Turkey, June 29, 2021. (IHA Photo)

The project aims to meet the needs of the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) in terms of an effective and deterrent attack helicopter, which can carry a high amount of useful load, is resistant to challenging environmental factors. It is equipped with advanced technology target tracking and imaging systems, electronic warfare (EW) systems, navigation systems, communication systems and weapon systems. It is being designed and manufactured as a chopper with high maneuverability and performance.
The general features of the T929 helicopter include a tandem cockpit, asymmetrical weapon loading capability, high ammo-carrying capacity, low infrared (IR) and acoustic trace, digital cockpit design, high ballistic resistance, state-of-the-art avionics, compatibility with high altitude and temperature, resistance to environmental factors, advanced EW and countermeasure systems.
It can carry high-caliber cannons, new generation rockets, long-range anti-tank missiles and air-to-air missile systems.
The heavy class helicopter can be used for air-to-ground combat, air-to-air combat, armed reconnaissance and surveillance, close air support (CAS), armed escort or joint offensive operations.
The current T129 tactical reconnaissance and attack helicopters, which were upgraded to Phase-2 level, are in the inventories of the TSK and Turkey’s General Directorate of Security, which most recently received the aircraft.
Kotil further announced that “In its 100th year, we, as TAI, will make an assertive entry into 2023. It will be a year in which almost all of our projects will take flight.”
TAI is also the main contractor in another major project for the Turkish defense and aviation industry, namely the National Combat Aircraft (MMU), a fifth-generation indigenous stealth fighter jet. The TF-X MMU is a fighter jet with similar features to Lockheed Martin's F-35 Lightning II. The domestically-built aircraft is being developed to replace the Turkish Air Forces Command's F-16 fighters, ahead of the gradual phasing out of the latter throughout the 2030s.
The domestic fighter jet will use a ready-made engine at the beginning, and then the engine to be developed by TRMotor will be integrated into the aircraft.
Meanwhile, back in April, a Ukrainian news site said Kyiv may sell a stake in Motor Sich to a Turkish company.
Chas News reported the sale of some 50% stake in the Motor Sich, one of the world's largest engine manufacturers for missiles, airplanes and helicopters, to a Turkish company with a state share in the capital, was discussed between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in Ankara.
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14 Ukrainian engines have been procured for the prototypes. They may ultimately be the replacement for the original Pak order! If true, Pak is getting a 10 ton heavy Apache-class chopper instead of the light choppers! As for the radars, sensors, EW, armaments etc. all are indigenous....

 
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14 Ukrainian engines have been procured for the prototypes. They may ultimately be the replacement for the original Pak order! If true, Pak is getting a 10 ton heavy Apache-class chopper instead of the light choppers! As for the radars, sensors, EW, armaments etc. all are indigenous....

If this is replacing the original T129 order, than this should be more than enough to offset india's apache acquisition.

Also how much payload can it carry compared to the T129?
 

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If this is replacing the original T129 order, than this should be more than enough to offset india's apache acquisition.

Also how much payload can it carry compared to the T129?
General characteristics of the T929 Mk-II Heavy Class Attack Helicopter:
    • 10-ton class​
    • 2 Turboshaft engines​
    • Weapon stations: 6 x underwing hardpoints​
    • Maximum payload: 1,200kg​
    • Tandem cockpit​
    • 4 Axis Autopilot​
    • Service ceiling: 20,000ft​
    • Maximum speed: 318km/h​
    • Operational envelope: -40° to +50°C​
    • Armor: 12.7mm-resistant armored cockpit​
    • Laser based Helicopter Obstacle Detection System (HETS) and Fire Control Radar (MilDAR)​
    • Hot & High Performance​
    • Resistant to environmental factors​
    • High forward speed limit​
    • Advanced electronic warfare and countermeasure systems​
    • High-caliber cannon (30mm), new generation 2,75-inch rockets, long range and anti-tank missiles with different guidance systems and air-to-air missile systems​
 
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General characteristics of the T929 Mk-II Heavy Class Attack Helicopter:
    • 10-ton class​
    • 2 Turboshaft engines​
    • Weapon stations: 6 x underwing hardpoints​
    • Maximum payload: 1,200kg​
    • Tandem cockpit​
    • 4 Axis Autopilot​
    • Service ceiling: 20,000ft​
    • Maximum speed: 318km/h​
    • Operational envelope: -40° to +50°C​
    • Armor: 12.7mm-resistant armored cockpit​
    • Laser based Helicopter Obstacle Detection System (HETS) and Fire Control Radar (MilDAR)​
    • Hot & High Performance​
    • Resistant to environmental factors​
    • High forward speed limit​
    • Advanced electronic warfare and countermeasure systems​
    • High-caliber cannon (30mm), new generation 2,75-inch rockets, long range and anti-tank missiles with different guidance systems and air-to-air missile systems​


It comes with electronic warfare and countermeasure systems which is a bonus. Well post seems like you did you search here
 

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General characteristics of the T929 Mk-II Heavy Class Attack Helicopter:
    • 10-ton class​
    • 2 Turboshaft engines​
    • Weapon stations: 6 x underwing hardpoints​
    • Maximum payload: 1,200kg​
    • Tandem cockpit​
    • 4 Axis Autopilot​
    • Service ceiling: 20,000ft​
    • Maximum speed: 318km/h​
    • Operational envelope: -40° to +50°C​
    • Armor: 12.7mm-resistant armored cockpit​
    • Laser based Helicopter Obstacle Detection System (HETS) and Fire Control Radar (MilDAR)​
    • Hot & High Performance​
    • Resistant to environmental factors​
    • High forward speed limit​
    • Advanced electronic warfare and countermeasure systems​
    • High-caliber cannon (30mm), new generation 2,75-inch rockets, long range and anti-tank missiles with different guidance systems and air-to-air missile systems​
Thank you.

I hope the PAA considers this over the Z10ME if the negotiations for the T129 fails
 

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MOTOR SICH says VK-2500-03 is one of the world’s best turboshafts as regards its fuel efficiency and weight performances

operating the base engine along with applying an up-to-date control system have enabled to raise operating performances and ensure high dependability and extensive service life

and certificated in China, South Korea, Brazil
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turkey is no USA

so what ? yes Turkey is no USA


but Turkish AKINCI UCAV is superior to American MQ-9

and Turkey will be 3rd country in the world that developed 10+ tons class heavy Attack Helicopter

AH-64 Apache USA
KA-52 / MI-28 Russia
T-929 Turkey


T-929 will have latests technology and advanced systems

MILDAR Millimeter wave fire control Radar
HEHSIS 360 degree Electronic Warfare Counter Measure System
DIRCM Infrared Counter Measure System
Target Detection System
Helicopter Obstacle Detection System
Modular Avionics Architecture
4 axis Autopilot
HELMET Integrated Display System
Ballistic protection heavy armored Cockpit ( resistant to 12.7 mm ammunition )
1200-1500 kg weapon payload capacity

-- 30 mm Gun with buried munition box
-- CIRIT 70 mm laser guided Rockets
-- MIZRAK Anti Tank Missiles ( up to 16 ATGMs )
-- 25km BOZDOGAN Air to Air Missiles
 
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Thank you.

I hope the PAA considers this over the Z10ME if the negotiations for the T129 fails
I feel like these will come too late…PA was supposed to get New Helis by 2019 and it’s frustrated with the delays in the T-129, they wouldn’t want to wait till 2024 for this to get ready, before that even the local T-129 engine will be ready. However there is a chance for both medium and light attack helicopters. So maybe we might still see PA buying it. Would make sense with the engine too.
 

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