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Trump withdraws US from Iran nuclear deal

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  1. Stealth

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    Trump did what i said at the time of Obama/Iran Nuclear deal. This deal will roll back by “ANY” upcoming president in the future lol. I totally agreed with Trump about the empty threats of nuclear strikes against anyone in retaliation from the Iranian side. Trust me Iran cant do this. They do not have any capacity and power nor fully operational strategic force command. US air force can easily takeout entire military structure of Iran with in a few mins!


    Iran has no defence to confront the attack of US battlespace machinery. Pakistan is and will be the ONLY Muslim country (remain Inshallah) having a credible, powerful, controlled and fully functional Strategic Force command in the world which nobody can undo. In case of aggresion, Pakistan has enough capacity, capability to wipe out any state with in the range of its WMD. Sorry bye bye Iran lol.


    Iranis are stupid. Their empty threats actually become a deal breaker. They continously threatening without having a constructive dialog and approach. Think tanks sitting inthe Pentagon already realized way back that Iran doesn’t have any of such capability. The only pushing point is Russia behind this drama.


    The test case no# 3 (Syria) recently, hardly Russia respond to West attack. So the message sent to Iran is very loud and clear that whenever we will going for hunting, even Russia can’t do anything. So this is the point where Trump regime openly sent shutup call to Iran.
     
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    I am not expert but its simple when America place sanctions on companies or countries then you cannot have business with both US and sanctioned entity same time.then if any company want business with America they have to stop business with iran.
     
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    The European Union has rebuked Donald Trump over his move to break the Iran nuclear deal, telling the US president he does not have the power to unilaterally scrap the international agreement.

    In a statement delivered on Tuesday night EU foreign affairs chief Federica Mogherini said the US should reconsider its position, but that it was not within the power of the country’s president to end the accord.

    Mr Trump ended the US’s commitment to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action negotiated between Iran, the EU, US, Russia, China, France, Britain, and Germany, which was signed by his predecessor Barack Obama in 2015.

    He claims the deal is “decaying and rotten” and says it is “an embarrassment” to him “as a citizen”. In the US the deal is politically-charged because it is seen as a key legacy as Barack Obama. It is also opposed by Israel, a close US ally in the region.

    Speaking in Rome the EU’s Ms Mogherini said Europe “regrets” Mr Trump’s new policy, but added: “As we have always said the nuclear deal is not a bilateral agreement and it is not in the hands of any single country to terminate it unilaterally.

    “It has been unanimously endorsed by the UN security council resolution 2231, it is a key element of the global non-proliferation architecture, it is relevant in itself, but even more so in these times of encouraging symbols on the prospect of the denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula.

    “The nuclear deal with Iran is crucial for the security of the region, of Europe and of the entire region. As long as Iran continues to implement its nuclear-related commitments as it is doing so far the European union will remain committed to the continued, full, and effective implementation for the nuclear deal.”

    She added that the EU trusts the work of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which has repeatedly said Iran is sticking to its side of the bargain. She also said she was “particularly worried” about new sanctions on Iran announced by the US, stating that “the lifting of nuclear-related sanctions is an essential part of the agreement”.

    “Let me conclude with a message to Iranian citizens and leaders, to each and every one of them: do not let anyone dismantle this agreement,” she said.

    “It is one of the biggest achievements that diplomacy has ever delivered and we have built this together. It is the demonstration that win-win solutions are possible through dialogue, engagement, and perseverance. That common ground that be found, even when positions and interest differ – that respect can be a universal language. This deal belongs to each and every one of us. Stay true to our commitments and we will stay true to ours and together with the rest of the international community we will preserve this nuclear deal.”

    Iranian president Hassan Rouhani, who expended significant political capital to broker the deal, echoed the EU’s approach, stating: “I have ordered the foreign ministry to negotiate with the European countries, China and Russia in the coming weeks.

    "If we achieve the deal's goals in co-operation with other members of the deal, it will remain in place."

    Under the deal Iran has agreed to dramatically cut its enriched uranium stockpiles and its capacity to enrich uranium in the future. The IAEA gained full access to Iranian nuclear facilities under the deal to monitor its implementation.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...macron-france-rouhani-mogherini-a8342501.html
     
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    #BREAKING Europeans will 'do everything' to protect companies in Iran: French presidency
     
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    RIP to Rouhani's political career. he will be a lame duck going forward and his dreams of a possible supreme leader post are over.

    but I think this was a good response by iran. Wait a few weeks and put the ball In the euros court. this isolates the US and pits them against each other. even if the US wins this struggle it will come at the expense of their euro allies credibility.

    if iran pulled out immidiatly that would give the euros an easy way out to side with the US while still maintaining some face and credibility. they can just say "if iran and US are out, whats the point of Russia,china, + 3 euros remaining?"

    this is just stupid.... parasites trying to advance their political careers at the expense of irans credibility. are these Neanderthals seriously too stupid to understand that this only gives the enemy propaganda and helps them? or do they simply not care and getting more "anti American" credibility points while the ovens still hot matters more?

    absolute parasites.
     
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    If Russia is "gone", then the USA will also have vanished from this Earth.

    Nobody is helping China to begin with.

    Look at China's island building and military base building in the South China Sea. Look how many "red lines" Obama drew against China there. Who is helping us?

    Do you know China is currently engaged in a trade war with the USA? Who is helping us there?

    Look at China's stand-off with India in the Donglang region? Any help? What about our Diaoyutai dispute with Japan? Any help?

    Any words of support even?

    Why is it that when America and Iran look after their own interests first, it is acceptable and reasonable, but when China and Russia do it, it's suddenly suspect?

    What duty or obligation do we have to look after the interests of any country other than our own? And who will do the same for us?
     
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    your right... I misread your post
     
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  8. AmirPatriot

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    How was it in China's interest for Saddam to fight Iran without Iran having the means to fight back? Or for the US to sanction Iran? Or for the US to pressure China into abandoning an arms deal with Iran?

    More importantly, how is it China's interest for the middle east to fall to the US, along with its rich resources and key trade route (OBOR)?
     
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    None of those things have any significant effect on China's interests, in fact many analysts claim that the US-Iran dispute is good for China because it allows us more strategic breathing room.

    Just like how if China went to war with the USA in the South China Sea, or in a Korean War 2.0 rematch, it would remove a lot of pressure from Iran.

    How will the Middle East fall to the US any more than it already is?

    China is now the largest trading partner of most of the countries in the Middle East, ask them if they will openly side with the US against China in the SCS? Even if only by words and not actions?
     
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    The last thing Iranian government should do is to let the nation be at the mercy of a serial exploiter like
    Government of China.
     
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    Ignore that member. He is constantly whining about everything and everyone. And I am sure he hasn't taken a single positive step for Iran in his whole life. People who constantly whine are those with least of arts and abilities.
     
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    Sure, then tell me who are the major oil importing countries in the world that are not in the American camp?

    Is there anyone besides China?

    If Iran doesn't want to be dependent on China they shouldn't have got themselves sanctioned yet again. And even now you can still cut off relations with China if you want, the Gulf Arabs have been offering us massive discounts if we stop buying Iranian oil.

    Frankly there has never been any love lost in the Sino-Iranian bilateral relationship. Iran should go ahead and do what they have to do, we'll do the same.
     
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    Don't think so.
     
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    One example

    Airbus seals deal with Iran for sale of 100 aircraft
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...h-iran-for-sale-of-100-aircraft-idUSKBN14B1H9