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Trump withdraws US from Iran nuclear deal

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    Iran gives JCPOA parties 60 days before reducing further commitments
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    TEHRAN May 08 (MNA) – Iran has revealed countermeasures to US’ withdrawal from the nuclear deal, removing restrictions on storage of heavy water and enriched uranium, and giving the five remaining parties to JCPOA 60 days before reducing further commitments to the agreement.

    “In line with protecting the security and national interests of the Iranian people”, the Supreme National Security Council has ordered stop to implementation of some parts of commitments of the Islamic Republic of Iran under the JCPOA according to articles 26 and 36 of the agreement.

    The letter containing the details of Iran’s countermeasures to the US withdrawal from the agreement and its increasing pressure and restrictions against the Islamic Republic since May 2018 was presented to the ambassadors of the five remaining parties to the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) - France, Germany, UK, Russia and China – on Wednesday morning, a few hours before President Rouhani went live on a television broadcast to discuss the decision in length.

    According to the decision of the Supreme National Security Council, Iran will no longer commit to the restrictions put on storage of enriched uranium and heavy water under the agreement.

    The remaining parties to the nuclear deal have been given 60 days to implement their commitments under the JCPOA, particularly those related to the banking and oil sectors. Failure to do so will prompt the Islamic Republic to stop complying with restrictions on the level of uranium enrichment and the modernization of Arak heavy water reactor, the statement says.

    “At any given time that our demands are met, we will resume complying with the stopped commitments; otherwise, we will continue to stop implementing the other commitments step by step,” adds the statement by the Supreme National Security Council.

    “Iran is ready to continue its consultations with the remaining parties to the JCPOA on all levels,” the statement notes. “However, Iran will respond decisively and immediately to any irresponsible act, such as referring the issue to the UN Security Council or the imposition of more sanctions.”

    The statement further stresses that the failure of the JCPOA and any possible consequence will be fully upon the United States and the remaining parties to the nuclear deal.

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    Iran should skip this JCPOA and build the bomb asap. Iran needs at least 35 missiles with an atomic warhead. Turkey fucked russia and still go into bed with US. Syria will be schreddered in peaces, also Irak. Dont wait for european countries. There will be war in europe. Some would call it civil war, but it will be the same war as in Syria. Build the bomb.
     
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    There will not be a war in Europe.

    As I understand, JCPOA works well (in theory) for Iran because it buys time for Iran to fix problems with IR-6/IR-8 centrifuges (need 3-5 more years). Then Iran can replace IR-1/2 centrifuges and become a latent nuclear power (cascade of 1000 IR-8 centrifuges hidden deep underground would give Iran a very short 'breakout time' compared to today with inefficient IR-1 centrifuges).
     
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    There will be war in europe. Not that war you think a war has to be. And not countries are in war. And as far as i read/heared: There are no more IR1 anymore in use.
     
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    You heard wrong about IR-1. I think all of the current 5000 centrifuges in operation in Iran are IR-1 (if I'm wrong someone can correct me).
     
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    Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:19

    https://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13951109001888

    And in the year 2014: The order to replace the old ones

    “We have about 19000 centrifuges installed and about 9000 of them are working” Salehi told Al-Alam, but these are previous generations and Iran has a plan to renew them with new generation one. The plan has not become operational yet because Iran waiting for final result of negotiations with P5+1, but it could not be delayed more.

    http://en.seyedali.qomblog.ir/?tag=irans-ir8-centrifuges
     
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    If you read JCPOA you will know that Iran is only allowed to operate 5,000 IR-1 centrifuges for now.

    Iran is allowed to conduct limited testing of more advanced centrifuges such as IR-6 and IR-8, but only in very small numbers (such as 3 for IR-8) and is not allowed to make them operational.
     
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    Sigh.

    This is from the text of the 159 page JCPOA document itself (annexed to UNSCR 2231):

    "Iran will begin phasing out its IR-1 centrifuges in 10 years. During this period, Iran will keep its enrichment capacity at Natanz at up to a total installed uranium enrichment capacity of 5060 IR-1 centrifuges" [page 6]

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/122460/full-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-deal.pdf
     
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    Yes, the "capacity". But not what centrifuges do that "capacity". Also it is allowed to replace the IR-1. The phrase "phasing out" gives you the hint.
     
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    Phasing out after 10 years, yes. It has not been 10 years from 2016, so for now the only centrifuges in operation in Iran remain 5060 IR-1 centrifuges.

    Zero IR-2, IR-6 or IR-8 centrifuges are spinning and enriching uranium in Iran right now. This is a very basic fact.
     
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    Show me Annex I

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    And Annex II

    There you can read that also the EU violate this JCPOA if you bring the tankership in Gibraltar in mind. Or freeze of Iran money in EU. Or sanctions. All this happened after commiting to JCPOA. Let alone US.

    I dont know why Iran commit to this paper. But it is not broken by Iran, but all other signatory. So in real this JCPOA is dead born. One can use it instead of water while his "private big business".
     
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    Must concur, from day one the JCPOA was a trap meant to delay Iran's nuclear development.
    And look, North Korea that has instead speed up its own WMD program is now treated as an equal by the U.S.!


    Ex-U.S. diplomat suggests Trump could accept North Korea as nuclear weapons state

    August 17, 2019

    WASHINGTON, Aug. 16 (Yonhap) -- A former senior U.S. diplomat has suggested President Donald Trump could eventually accept North Korea as a nuclear weapons state, although he has shown no indication of doing so yet.

    Kurt Campbell, former assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific affairs, aired the view in a recent interview with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, posted on the think tank's website this week.

    "One hears persistent rumors and feedback that, on occasion, the president will ask: 'What's wrong with just letting them have -- acknowledging that? He seems like a perfectly reasonable guy. We can live with these guys. So what? We can manage the results,'" Campbell said, apparently referring to North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

    Discussing the possibility of an agreement under which North Korea would partially dismantle its nuclear weapons program in exchange for recognition as a nuclear weapons state and sanctions relief, he added: "I think there have been enough people that have pushed back on this now that I don't think the president has as yet been prepared to move in that direction. But my instinct tells me that he would take that deal."

    Campbell also suggested that Trump could aggressively push his agenda if he wins reelection next year.
    ...
    Campbell served as the top U.S. diplomat for East Asia from 2009-2013 under then-President Barack Obama, who has frequently been accused by Trump of mishandling the North Korean nuclear threat.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20190817...co.kr/view/AEN20190817000500325?section=nk/nk ; http://archive.fo/MUJaC

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