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While some in the German establishment fumed over the US presumably keeping Berlin uninformed about plans to withdraw thousands of troops, others envisioned it as a chance to loosen ties with their turbulent NATO ally.

Washington didn’t bother to inform Berlin of its intent to redeploy thousands of troops from Germany to other locations, with the news coming out of the blue for the government, German media reported on Saturday. Previously, Reuters and the Wall Street Journal reported that some of the 9,500 service members would be sent to Poland, some to other allied nations, and the rest would eventually return home.

Keeping Germans in the dark is “quite unusual,” but the rationale behind it is easy to recognize, Andreas Nick, a high-ranking member of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats (CDU), said. Everything here suggests “that it was not technical, but a purely politically motivated decision,” he told Deutsche Welle.

Lamenting the move, Nick said US soldiers and their families are “welcome” in Germany.

Dietmar Bartsch, who leads the non-mainstream Left Party, wasn’t as reserved. He fired off a somewhat incendiary tweet, saying the government should thank Washington and lay the groundwork for “a full withdrawal of US soldiers” during talks with the Trump administration.

If it happens, the departing troops “should take the American atomic bombs with them at the same time,” Bartsch added.

His sentiment was somewhat echoed by Johann Wadephul, who co-heads the ruling coalition’s faction in the parliament. Trump and his team are “neglecting a fundamental management task: the involvement of the allies in decision-making processes,” he stated. For him, the news provides an opening to make Europe less dependent on the US.

The reported redeployment perhaps sheds some light on the discord between Berlin and Washington, with the latter accusing Germany of failing to spend two percent of GDP on defense, as NATO guidelines prescribe. Berlin seemed at first unwilling to bow to the US’ demands but later agreed to increase its military budget.

Poland, by contrast, has already signaled that it would welcome US troops being redeployed from neighboring Germany.

Moscow, obviously, has not welcomed the idea of a build-up near its western borders. America ramping up its military presence and infrastructure in Eastern Europe only harms security on the continent and prompts Russia to respond in kind, top government officials have argued in recent years.

https://www.rt.com/news/491032-germany-us-troop-withdrawal-reactions/
 

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It's a fight between egos of two leaders masked as a fight between two countries. This will normalize, don't need to read much into this.
 

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It's a fight between egos of two leaders masked as a fight between two countries. This will normalize, don't need to read much into this.
Poland wants Trump to move those troops from Germany to Poland FWIW

Apparently US troops based in Germany are sad to leave because they "felt welcomed in Germany"
Translation: They'd rather be in Germany than a real deployment somewhere like Iraq or Afghanistan
 

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Actually, he's withdrawing almost 25k soldiers.

Currently, 35k US soldiers are present in Germany. He wants to bring this number down to ~ 10k soldiers. Crazy.
 

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Poland wants Trump to move those troops from Germany to Poland FWIW

Apparently US troops based in Germany are sad to leave because they "felt welcomed in Germany"
Translation: They'd rather be in Germany than a real deployment somewhere like Iraq or Afghanistan
I don't blame them, German gals.
 

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Trump putting pressure to stop or minimize Russian gas import to germany. He want Europeans buy expensive American LNG.

Wtf is wrong with this orange baby...he is too selfish and greedy.
 

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Actually, he's withdrawing almost 25k soldiers.

Currently, 35k US soldiers are present in Germany. He wants to bring this number down to ~ 10k soldiers. Crazy.
It's kind of weird because it is both good and bad for Russia at the same time.

It's good for Russia because its less US presence near them
It's bad for Russia because Germans will stop buying Russian gas
 

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Germany wants to do business with Russia
USA tries to ruin it.

Germany wants to do business with China
USA tries to ruin it.

Germany doesnt want to do business with Trump anti China campaign.
Now he tries to scare them with pulling out US troops from Germany.

Way to make friends, Trump.
 

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why should the US pay for Germany's defense? And then see the Germans buy Russian gas? Even if Germany didn't - why should the US protect Germany for free? Does anyone think deploying 35,000 troops to another continent is cheap?
 

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