• Wednesday, August 5, 2020

Trump in Afganistan for the first time to end war!!

Discussion in 'Strategic & Foreign Affairs' started by Hakikat ve Hikmet, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. 925boy

    925boy SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    3,518
    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2016
    Ratings:
    +0 / 3,694 / -24
    Country:
    United States
    Location:
    United States
    US will host the "party" but will not have the most fun in it. From your tone, i dont believe this is unfamiliar to you. US is good at setting up other countries to take advantage of US gains. It already happened in Syria and Iraq.
     
  2. Pakhtoon yum

    Pakhtoon yum BANNED

    Messages:
    5,540
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2018
    Ratings:
    +6 / 7,344 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Canada
    They are local Pakistanis and they have blended into the culture. You dont see them voting for separatist like MQM. Just look at that happend to the national party and PTM

    Show your real flags before commenting first or are you ashamed of where your from?
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  3. pakpride00090

    pakpride00090 FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,811
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2019
    Ratings:
    +1 / 3,596 / -2
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Those pashtuns vote for ANP or are PTM/ethnic supermacist. You don't know what you are talking about. They form their own ethnic enclaves ( e.g one at sorab goth in Khi) where non-pashtuns can't enter.

    I am from sindh and studied in universities where Pashtuns from Pak and Afghan were present. Both of them had toxic mentality.

    Unlike Bengali and Indian muslims , Afghanistan and especially afghan pashtuns regularly attacked Pakistan since its inception in 1947. You need to read some history before praising pashtuns of Afghanistan.

    All Afghan pashtuns must leave otherwise they will form their own interest groups like PTM/ANP/Achakzai types. I have personally observed the ethnic supermacist tendencies of Pashtuns.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  4. Foggy_Bottom

    Foggy_Bottom BANNED

    Messages:
    1,055
    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2014
    Ratings:
    +8 / 2,109 / -10
    Country:
    United States
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Sorry- I'm unsure what the above is meant to relay. Host a party but not have fun?
     
  5. Uguduwa

    Uguduwa FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    915
    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2019
    Ratings:
    +0 / 816 / -0
    Country:
    Sri Lanka
    Location:
    Germany
    that i am indian? :cray:

    check my post history how much i love to **** with indians. i am all about the red pill homes
     
  6. fitpOsitive

    fitpOsitive SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    7,647
    Joined:
    May 27, 2015
    Ratings:
    +13 / 7,849 / -1
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Bolten costed USA around 500 lives and billions of dollars...extra.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  7. Crystal-Clear

    Crystal-Clear SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    5,111
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2017
    Ratings:
    +0 / 4,223 / -2
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    United Arab Emirates
    yeah . only in terrorism.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  8. Pakhtoon yum

    Pakhtoon yum BANNED

    Messages:
    5,540
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2018
    Ratings:
    +6 / 7,344 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Canada
    So a whole country is full of terrorist. Where do you get your education, cause that institution must be razed to the ground for producing mentally disabled people.

    So did the Bengalis and Indians. Btw that's why the national party and PTM must being doing so good because the pakhtoons vote for them. Your a joke. PTM and the other party is dying because no one is voting for them. On the other hand MQM was thriving for a decade because all those bengalis and indian immigrants were voting for this terrorist and separatist party. Shame on you for twisting facts.

    One other thing boi, I know my history more then you so it's best that I dont drag the other ethnicities in the filth just because you have a racist attitude towards pakhtoons. Your statements collapses right on top of itself when you targeted pakhtoons alone and made them the devil's advocate. You are nothing more then a racist bigot.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  9. pakpride00090

    pakpride00090 FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,811
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2019
    Ratings:
    +1 / 3,596 / -2
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    MQM was made after muhajirs suffered from injustice by PPP which was and is composed of predominately sindhi speaking people. Initially it did a lot of good. It fought for mujahir rights and actually helped them but unfortunately the party left its root cause and went astray. Altaf in his initial years was a wonderful person but later on greed and power corrupted him.

    As far as Pashtuns are concerned... They have been primary reason why MQM was formed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qasba_Aligarh_massacre . It was after this massacre that Altaf Hussain formerly announced MQM.

    The fact is Afghans and few Pakistani Pashtuns(Mostly ANP thugs) have been a cause of great problems in Karachi. Most of them are illiterate , terrorist , drug sellers and rapist ( bacha bazi). I am glad MQM was formed and taught pashtuns lessons by using the same medicine ( violence) that Pashtuns understand.... After the formation of MQM , pashtuns never dared to attack Muhajirs ( no similar Qasba Aligarh Massacre) because they knew they would meet with the same violence that they inflict upon others....

    Another good thing MQM did was it eliminated all the people involved in Kacha Qilla massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hyderabad_massacre . Sindhis learned to never use violence against Muhajirs as well.

    Had MQM not been formed, Muhajirs would have lived under the fear of Sindhis and Pashtuns...


    Only if Altaf had been a loyal citizen of the country and didn't resort to illegal means..MQM would have been a dominant party in urban Sindh.
     
  10. Crystal-Clear

    Crystal-Clear SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    5,111
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2017
    Ratings:
    +0 / 4,223 / -2
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    United Arab Emirates
    you are making fun of bengalis i am not a bengali :) . but bengalis are more educated and civilised as compare to the barbarians unethical terrorists lives in afghanistan . just compare both countries .
    .
    .
    we have both bangali basti and afghan basti in our city . believe me "any Pakistani" could go to bengali basti and came out with all his/her belongings but you will get snatched the moment you enter afghan basti :). (both bastis hv least educated and poor peoples )
    .
    try to enter afghan basti with Pakistani badge on ur chest . you might got shot .
     
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2019
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  11. pakpride00090

    pakpride00090 FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,811
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2019
    Ratings:
    +1 / 3,596 / -2
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Yup.. I am not a bengali as well. I am not sure why he keeps bringing up bengalis. Also , bengalis never really harmed or attacked people in Karachi...

    You try to enter sorab Goth( ethnic enclaves of Afghan Pashtuns ) and see what happens. Absolute lawless area where you will fear for your life. Crimes are rampant over there... Even police is afraid to go in those areas. Few days back , these goons blocked super highway because few truck drivers attacked FWO workers and got killed in return.

    Pakhtoon yum lives in Canada but talks about uniting Afghanistan with Pakistan.... If he likes Afghanistan so much then he should have immigrated to Afghanistan rather than going to Canada....

    I have seen people like Pakhtoon yum...Those chaps usually have good intentions and are generally nice people but since they don't live near ground zero ( Sindh in my case) , they generally don't know the truth.
     
  12. Crystal-Clear

    Crystal-Clear SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    5,111
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2017
    Ratings:
    +0 / 4,223 / -2
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    United Arab Emirates
    do agree even the pakhtoon yum will get robbed in afghan basti .
     
  13. fitpOsitive

    fitpOsitive SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    7,647
    Joined:
    May 27, 2015
    Ratings:
    +13 / 7,849 / -1
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Anti Pakistan sentiments are present within Pakistan as well.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 2
  14. 925boy

    925boy SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    3,518
    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2016
    Ratings:
    +0 / 3,694 / -24
    Country:
    United States
    Location:
    United States
    i mean that US sets the stage well aka preparing invaded countries to be taken over, but someone else comes and steals the cake. Look at Libya now. US took Gaddafi out, But Russia is primed to take advantage. US took Saddam out, but Iran filled the void. Same thing in Afghanistan- US took Taliban out(temporarily), but US isnt supporting the strongest/eventually dominant side(Taliban + other rebel groups).
     
  15. Foggy_Bottom

    Foggy_Bottom BANNED

    Messages:
    1,055
    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2014
    Ratings:
    +8 / 2,109 / -10
    Country:
    United States
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    You are giving credence to countries that are frankly too economically stunted to overtake the US influence. Ultimately, we are not there to have a permanent military presence in any of those countries. Even so -
    • Libya, we are very close to the government a have exclusive oil deals and solid influence, including military and economic
    • Iraq, same deal. We are well entrenched and influential. I believe the Iranian embassy got burned down by the Shia mobs recently. AND honestly, what is a completely broke Iran going to do - more terrorist attacks? Our military bases and presence are still there. Iran could not even help it with ISIS. We are security guarantor
    • Afghanistan & the Taliban- they have to agree to us having a large embassy and have to agree to zero violence and no support of terror groups, fight elections to show legitimacy and work with the current Afghan government - and then and only then we will start relocating our troops after two years of showing us progress