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"Training in Pakistan was better than that in USA" tells Iranian fighter pilot

Beny Karachun

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People have been putting their faith in these so called “superb advantages” brought by the stealth fighters. And yet in reality, it all depends on the system rather than single piece of weapon. Ya’ll forgot the F-117 shot down by outdated SA-2? F-35 is merely a new toy that will be outdated in 10-20 years. Learning to make toys is much wiser than sacrificing everything to obtain a piece of trendy toy.
An F-117 with no radar warning system, in a predicted bombing run, with its weapons bay open, after hundreds of F-117 successful bombing runs.
Cope harder. F-117s bombed the shit out of Iraq and Serbia.
 

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What an idiot when did they had last time training in USA I think if any Iranian pilots had trained In USA in 70s are dead by now
 

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People have been putting their faith in these so called “superb advantages” brought by the stealth fighters. And yet in reality, it all depends on the system rather than single piece of weapon. Ya’ll forgot the F-117 shot down by outdated SA-2? F-35 is merely a new toy that will be outdated in 10-20 years. Learning to make toys is much wiser than sacrificing everything to obtain a piece of trendy toy.

The sortie-to-loss ratio of F-117A Nighthawk in global conflicts for reference:

Operation Just Cause = 6 - 0
Operation Desert Storm = 1219 - 0
Operation Allied Force = 743 - 1
Operation Iraqi Freedom = 87 - 0

Yugoslavia scored a kill with an IMAD setup that was impressive back in the day and this was still a 'by chance' kill:

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Source: Clean Bombs and Dirty Wars: Air Power in Kosovo and Libya

F-117A did not had EW capabilities of its own. This weakness could be exploited by a well prepared foe when circumstances allowed.

F-35 is a big leap from F-117A on all counts; greatest leap is in the case of onboard sensor systems with significant EW capabilities.

The word 'significant' is an understatement in fact. F-35 is (very) strong in the EW regime - up there with the likes of EA-18G Growler and F-15EX Eagle II.



F-35 is also very network-centric platform unlike F-117A.


It is important to understand what kind of battlefield effects (multiple) F-35 can produce in a contested airspace.

It is difficult to comprehend.

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F-35 will be uplifted to Block 4 standard in the near future, and it will not be obsolete anytime soon.


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MastanKhan

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A part of me wonders whether the US deliberately tells its pilots to hold back in exercises etc. Provide others with a false sense of security.

Hi,

No they don't. The other guy does not know it all. So the US just keeps within the parameters of their flying capabilities.

As the other party excels at their game---the US responds in kind.

So---in order to get the best out of the US---you have to match it to the max mano a mano or as a team.
 

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Chinese equipment might have roots in Russian equipment; regardless, it is untested and unproven. We had an opportunity in 2019 where we could have used our Thunders against the IAF Migs & Flankers but we instead chose to rely on the old and tested Falcons instead; quite possibly out of fear of failure.
Has American equipment ever been tested in a conventional war against a near peer enemy? Not talking about the gulf war.

Regarding operation swift retort I heard we also used JF-17s.

F-15s have been proven in battles and wars in air to air combat and it got destroyed by the F-35 in exercises. Sure its just exercises but they make it real as possible.
Air to air combat against outdatet Iraqi jets. Ok lol
 

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