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No destroyer has more capability than 055 in any aspect, so 055 is undoubtedly the first. No one will object except Indians.

1st, China Type 055,
2nd, Korea Sejong class,
3rd, USA Burke 3,
4th, China 052D,
5th, Japan Atago class,
6th, Japan Kongo class,
7th, Japan Aikizuki class,
8th, China Type 052C,
9th, Britain Type 45,
10th, French Horizon class
 

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@waz what is this? Promotion of click bait youtube channels with absolutely zero credibility.

No destroyer has more capability than 055 in any aspect, so 055 is undoubtedly the first. No one will object except Indians.

1st, China Type 055,
2nd, Korea Sejong class,
3rd, USA Burke 3,
4th, China 052D,
5th, Japan Atago class,
6th, Japan Kongo class,
7th, Japan Aikizuki class,
8th, China Type 052C,
9th, Britain Type 45,
10th, French Horizon class
Oh my God you forgot supapowa's destroyers, the ultimate killing mechines. How dare you?
 

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No destroyer has more capability than 055 in any aspect, so 055 is undoubtedly the first. No one will object except Indians.

1st, China Type 055,
2nd, Korea Sejong class,
3rd, USA Burke 3,
4th, China 052D,
5th, Japan Atago class,
6th, Japan Kongo class,
7th, Japan Aikizuki class,
8th, China Type 052C,
9th, Britain Type 45,
10th, French Horizon class
Project 15A and P15B Bravo destroyers of Indian Navy carries 16 BrahMos missiles. Thats 48 tons of Anti-ship Firepower. In comparison ships of this size(7500 tons) carry 8 x Harpoons or 8 x Exocet. Thats just 6.2 tons of Anti-ship Firepower. BrahMos is bigger, heavier and WAAAY more capable than Exocet/Harpoon or any similar subsonic missile.
It carries 533mm HEAVY Torpedo like the Varunastra Torpedo. It has a much more powerful warhead and a higher range of 40 kms. In comparision, other Destroyers carry 324mm light torpedo tubes. Less firepower and ranges of only around 10 kms. Vishakapatnam Class has accomodation for 2 full armed Helicopters . Many destroyers can accommodate only 1 helicopter. Barak 8 is an excellent missile, but i would have been happy if it had 16-24 additional Barak 8.
The design of our warships ensures a fantastic broadside coverage.
LRSAM has a higher hit probability than enemy missiles. In terms of protection, our destroyers and frigates are top class. Don't forget the EW capability of the MFstar and the DRDO Shakti EW suite. Now coming to offensive weapons: 16 brahmos is excellent and can effectively sink as much as 12 enemy ships including enemy aircraft carrier. I would have preferred atleast 4 of the newly developed SMART missile (similar to ASROC) to scare and target enemy submarine, but i believe this missile is around 2m longer than Brahmos!!

@waz what is this? Promotion of click bait youtube channels with absolutely zero credibility.


Oh my God you forgot supapowa's destroyers, the ultimate killing mechines. How dare you?
Upcoming stealth guided frigates of Indian Navy(INS Nilgiri):

It's actually pretty good, it will be a force multiplier for least numerous destroyer fleet. It features flush deck, 8 brahmos VLUs, 32 barak ers(and 24- 32 VL astra)
It has lots of space for upgrade , especially in deck it has more space to add more VLUs , will feature MF-STAR S-band and ltr 25 l band radar and most importantly it will be build using a method called modular integrated construction (MIC) where Ships are built in the shortest time when a series of specific pre-planned modules are assembled like a Lego set. Which is unlike the russian way which is least expensive,needs less skilled labour but take longer to build, while MIC is more expensive , need skilled labour and construction will be faster , and this how western countries and China builds its warships and that's how china pumped out so much warships in this short time.

Oh my God you forgot supapowa's destroyers, the ultimate killing mechines. How dare you?
The destroyer class ship has been constructed with indigenous steel DMR 249A.
 

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@waz what is this? Promotion of click bait youtube channels with absolutely zero credibility.


Oh my God you forgot supapowa's destroyers, the ultimate killing mechines. How dare you?
Calcutta class warship is a model of scientific and technological cooperation all over the world. It is equipped with naval guns from Italy, phased array radar from Israel, main engine from Ukraine, auxiliary engine from Norway, generators from Denmark, anti-ship missiles from Russia, air defense missiles from Israel, early warning radar from the Netherlands, bow sonar from the USA, towed sonar from Germany and combat management system from Canada, Navigation management system in Sweden and project supervision in France, etc.
On the Calcutta class warship, we saw the hope of human cooperation in the future.
The Calcutta class is an excellent warship. In addition to the long construction time (14 years), the speed of air defense missiles is slower than that of aircraft (the max-speed is Mach 2), lack sufficient ability to defend against electronic warfare aircraft, has two power systems (European standard and Russian standard), uses smaller power gas turbines (16550kw), the phased array radar looks like Sikh's headscarf, which affects the overall center of gravity of warships. Calcutta has no shortcomings.

Project 15A and P15B Bravo destroyers of Indian Navy carries 16 BrahMos missiles. Thats 48 tons of Anti-ship Firepower. In comparison ships of this size(7500 tons) carry 8 x Harpoons or 8 x Exocet. Thats just 6.2 tons of Anti-ship Firepower. BrahMos is bigger, heavier and WAAAY more capable than Exocet/Harpoon or any similar subsonic missile.
It carries 533mm HEAVY Torpedo like the Varunastra Torpedo. It has a much more powerful warhead and a higher range of 40 kms. In comparision, other Destroyers carry 324mm light torpedo tubes. Less firepower and ranges of only around 10 kms. Vishakapatnam Class has accomodation for 2 full armed Helicopters . Many destroyers can accommodate only 1 helicopter. Barak 8 is an excellent missile, but i would have been happy if it had 16-24 additional Barak 8.
The design of our warships ensures a fantastic broadside coverage.
LRSAM has a higher hit probability than enemy missiles. In terms of protection, our destroyers and frigates are top class. Don't forget the EW capability of the MFstar and the DRDO Shakti EW suite. Now coming to offensive weapons: 16 brahmos is excellent and can effectively sink as much as 12 enemy ships including enemy aircraft carrier. I would have preferred atleast 4 of the newly developed SMART missile (similar to ASROC) to scare and target enemy submarine, but i believe this missile is around 2m longer than Brahmos!!


Upcoming stealth guided frigates of Indian Navy(INS Nilgiri):

It's actually pretty good, it will be a force multiplier for least numerous destroyer fleet. It features flush deck, 8 brahmos VLUs, 32 barak ers(and 24- 32 VL astra)
It has lots of space for upgrade , especially in deck it has more space to add more VLUs , will feature MF-STAR S-band and ltr 25 l band radar and most importantly it will be build using a method called modular integrated construction (MIC) where Ships are built in the shortest time when a series of specific pre-planned modules are assembled like a Lego set. Which is unlike the russian way which is least expensive,needs less skilled labour but take longer to build, while MIC is more expensive , need skilled labour and construction will be faster , and this how western countries and China builds its warships and that's how china pumped out so much warships in this short time.


The destroyer class ship has been constructed with indigenous steel DMR 249A.
PJ-10 is really good, but it's not as good as YJ-18.

Take it easy. At least Indians will make YouTube Videos.



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Calcutta class warship is a model of scientific and technological cooperation all over the world. It is equipped with naval guns from Italy, phased array radar from Israel, main engine from Ukraine, auxiliary engine from Norway, generators from Denmark, anti-ship missiles from Russia, air defense missiles from Israel, early warning radar from the Netherlands, bow sonar from the USA, towed sonar from Germany and combat management system from Canada, Navigation management system in Sweden and project supervision in France, etc.
On the Calcutta class warship, we saw the hope of human cooperation in the future.
The Calcutta class is an excellent warship. In addition to the long construction time (14 years), the speed of air defense missiles is slower than that of aircraft (the max-speed is Mach 2), lack sufficient ability to defend against electronic warfare aircraft, has two power systems (European standard and Russian standard), uses smaller power gas turbines (16550kw), the phased array radar looks like Sikh's headscarf, which affects the overall center of gravity of warships. Calcutta has no shortcomings.


PJ-10 is really good, but it's not as good as YJ-18.

Take it easy. At least Indians will make YouTube Videos.



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YJ-18
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Liaoning and shandong are both handicapped by having no airborne radar, j15 jet with only 4000lbs payload and still no nuclear power. Its actually a liability to combat operations at sea.

Conventional power, the carrier cannot maintain 30knot speed and range.

J15 is total garbage. Have to choose between CAP, anti ship and strike role. And no AESA radar

Escort warships have to be burdened to protect j15s in the air which is the opposite of what should be. Less response time to to defend itself and the carrier. Who needs decoys when their j15s can take that role.

No airborne radar, means there is no radar coverage beyond horizon especially against sea skimming missiles or low alt attack aircraft. Radar waves don't bend to earth curvature. Now that is very dangerous, no strike group can react fast enough against 100 tomahawkVs, NSM or LRASM coming up on the horizon at only 20kms away

It's a cheap carrier, only a fraction of the price of an American one. And doing 30 kn is nice, but if escort ships can't keep up due to wave height, it makes little sense.
 

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Liaoning and shandong are both handicapped by having no airborne radar, j15 jet with only 4000lbs payload and still no nuclear power. Its actually a liability to combat operations at sea.

Conventional power, the carrier cannot maintain 30knot speed and range.

J15 is total garbage. Have to choose between CAP, anti ship and strike role. And no AESA radar

Escort warships have to be burdened to protect j15s in the air which is the opposite of what should be. Less response time to to defend itself and the carrier. Who needs decoys when their j15s can take that role.

No airborne radar, means there is no radar coverage beyond horizon especially against sea skimming missiles or low alt attack aircraft. Radar waves don't bend to earth curvature. Now that is very dangerous, no strike group can react fast enough against 100 tomahawkVs, NSM or LRASM coming up on the horizon at only 20kms away

It's a cheap carrier, only a fraction of the price of an American one. And doing 30 kn is nice, but if escort ships can't keep up due to wave height, it makes little sense.
Yes and India VIkrant or INS vikramaditya has E2C hawkeye and they are electric catapult bow launch super aircraft carrier at 90000tons. :enjoy:

Did my above sentence makes you ecstatic and excited? Or you shall look into a mirror about IN one before make such comment about PLAN? :lol:

@waz
 

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Yes and India VIkrant or INS vikramaditya has E2C hawkeye and they are electric catapult bow launch super aircraft carrier at 90000tons. :enjoy:

Did my above sentence makes you ecstatic and excited? Or you shall look into a mirror about IN one before make such comment about PLAN? :lol:

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In many respects the Indian carrier is a generation newer in design. Design of Vikrant started in 1999 while the Chinese ships are rooted in 1970s Soviet technology. The Chinese ships use traditional steam turbines while Vikrant uses a more modern gas turbine arrangement.
Weight problems are compounded when operating off Liaoning, as its STOBAR launch and recovery method further limits payload capacity.
Among the Asian countries, the Indian Navy is the most experienced in terms of naval aviation, coming in third after the US and France globally.

 

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Calcutta class warship is a model of scientific and technological cooperation all over the world. It is equipped with naval guns from Italy, phased array radar from Israel, main engine from Ukraine, auxiliary engine from Norway, generators from Denmark, anti-ship missiles from Russia, air defense missiles from Israel, early warning radar from the Netherlands, bow sonar from the USA, towed sonar from Germany and combat management system from Canada, Navigation management system in Sweden and project supervision in France, etc.
On the Calcutta class warship, we saw the hope of human cooperation in the future.
The Calcutta class is an excellent warship. In addition to the long construction time (14 years), the speed of air defense missiles is slower than that of aircraft (the max-speed is Mach 2), lack sufficient ability to defend against electronic warfare aircraft, has two power systems (European standard and Russian standard), uses smaller power gas turbines (16550kw), the phased array radar looks like Sikh's headscarf, which affects the overall center of gravity of warships. Calcutta has no shortcomings.


PJ-10 is really good, but it's not as good as YJ-18.

Take it easy. At least Indians will make YouTube Videos.



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YJ-18
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INS Vishakhapatnam has over 72% of indigenous content as against 59% of its predecessor Project 15A (Kolkata Class) and 42% of Project 15 (Delhi Class). It is equipped with BEL developed Bow mounted and towed array Sonar, DMR 249A high grade steel, BHEL developed SRGM, Barak 8(BEL), Brahmos(with indigenous seeker), DRDO's Signal Intelligence Suite and Shakti Electronic Warfare system, Kavach Decoy Launchers, Radar Fingerprinting system, Mareech Advanced Torpedo defence system, Combat Management System, Rocket Launcher, Torpedo Tube Launcher, Integrated Platform Management System, Automated Power Management System, Foldable Hangar Doors, Helo Traversing system, Close-in Weapon System, ship steering and stabiliser system and hydraulics
 

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No destroyer has more capability than 055 in any aspect, so 055 is undoubtedly the first. No one will object except Indians.

1st, China Type 055,
2nd, Korea Sejong class,
3rd, USA Burke 3,
4th, China 052D,
5th, Japan Atago class,
6th, Japan Kongo class,
7th, Japan Aikizuki class,
8th, China Type 052C,
9th, Britain Type 45,
10th, French Horizon class
The Type-55 is currently just a Buffed-up Average Destroyer until it gets & demonstrates it's promised : 1) All-Electric Propulsion 2) ASAT Capabilities 3) Electromagnetic Railgun 4) Anti-Ballistic Missile Capabilities
 

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Liaoning and shandong are both handicapped by having no airborne radar, j15 jet with only 4000lbs payload and still no nuclear power. Its actually a liability to combat operations at sea.

Conventional power, the carrier cannot maintain 30knot speed and range.

J15 is total garbage. Have to choose between CAP, anti ship and strike role. And no AESA radar

Escort warships have to be burdened to protect j15s in the air which is the opposite of what should be. Less response time to to defend itself and the carrier. Who needs decoys when their j15s can take that role.

No airborne radar, means there is no radar coverage beyond horizon especially against sea skimming missiles or low alt attack aircraft. Radar waves don't bend to earth curvature. Now that is very dangerous, no strike group can react fast enough against 100 tomahawkVs, NSM or LRASM coming up on the horizon at only 20kms away

It's a cheap carrier, only a fraction of the price of an American one. And doing 30 kn is nice, but if escort ships can't keep up due to wave height, it makes little sense.
Yes, I agree with you. They are rubbish. But Indians can't even make garbage, so you're not even as good as garbage.
 

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Yes and India VIkrant or INS vikramaditya has E2C hawkeye and they are electric catapult bow launch super aircraft carrier at 90000tons. :enjoy:

Did my above sentence makes you ecstatic and excited? Or you shall look into a mirror about IN one before make such comment about PLAN? :lol:

@waz

 

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The Type-55 is currently just a Buffed-up Average Destroyer until it gets & demonstrates it's promised : 1) All-Electric Propulsion 2) ASAT Capabilities 3) Electromagnetic Railgun 4) Anti-Ballistic Missile Capabilities
The 346B radar of 055 has four bands, of which the C-band radar is most suitable for searching sea skimming missiles. Except for 055, only the Japanese akizuki class has C-band radar. 055 also has the world's best close defense gun H/PJ-11 (11000 rounds per minute), compared with Kolkata class, AK630 close defense gun is still used (3000 rounds per minute). 055 has the best defense capability against sea skimming missiles. If a sea skimming missile can hit 055, then the sea skimming missile can hit all warships in the world.
 

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In many respects the Indian carrier is a generation newer in design. Design of Vikrant started in 1999 while the Chinese ships are rooted in 1970s Soviet technology. The Chinese ships use traditional steam turbines while Vikrant uses a more modern gas turbine arrangement.
Weight problems are compounded when operating off Liaoning, as its STOBAR launch and recovery method further limits payload capacity.
Among the Asian countries, the Indian Navy is the most experienced in terms of naval aviation, coming in third after the US and France globally.

Let's first see if there will be a fire after India's aircraft carrier is in service.
We don't care about the performance of this so-called aircraft carrier, if it can avoid fire, it will prove that Indians have made great progress.
 

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The 346B radar of 055 has four bands, of which the C-band radar is most suitable for searching sea skimming missiles. Except for 055, only the Japanese akizuki class has C-band radar. 055 also has the world's best close defense gun H/PJ-11 (11000 rounds per minute), compared with Kolkata class, AK630 close defense gun is still used (3000 rounds per minute). 055 has the best defense capability against sea skimming missiles. If a sea skimming missile can hit 055, then the sea skimming missile can hit all warships in the world.
Brahmos perform low skimming with greater speed >>>mach 3, can carry more warheads than Chinese anti-ship missiles. Brahmos travel much faster in its terminal stage. And with accuracy of "1m CEP".
Sea skimming is upto terminal phase after that Brahmos does split-S manuever attack which makes it even more lethal....


Let's first see if there will be a fire after India's aircraft carrier is in service.
We don't care about the performance of this so-called aircraft carrier, if it can avoid fire, it will prove that Indians have made great progress.
The Chinese naval aviation is only around 10 years old
 

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