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Its called controlled Chaos. 70k+ Pakistani citizens dead over the course of the American WOT is a case study.


Maybe Cuba and Haiti are in a mess due to constant meddling of America in their affairs? Ever thought about that? Its rather strange When America is trying to meddle in south China sea, around China's backyard, world is seeing , out of blue, the unrest in Cuba and Haiti, places you call American backyard. One word, BRI.

I am sure you old enough to understand the geopolitics.
USA is not involved in Cuban politics since Fidel Castro took over. If they are problems in Cuba they are Cuban made
 

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I ask you AGAIN, where is Pakistan is this?
KSM is a Pakistani national. So is his nephew Ramzi Yusuf (if you can bring yourself to remember what he did).

On topic, the retired General also claims Afghanistan is "full of minerals" and that USA should "join CPEC". These by themselves show just how delusional this line of thinking is, let alone rely on to be credible, and even further, to use it as some rational basis for Pakistan's policies.
 

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KSM is a Pakistani national. So is his nephew Ramzi Yusuf (if you can bring yourself to remember what he did).
Sheikh Mohammed was born on April 14, 1965 (or March 1, 1964), in Kuwait.[14][15] His father was Sheikh Mohammed Ali Doustin Baluchi,[16] a lay Deobandi preacher, who moved the family to Kuwait from Balochistan in the 1960s.

If your feeble mind cannot understand and comprehend that FACT, that it was ISI who caught him and handed over to America, just like his nephew!!

If your puny mind is justifying American terror campaign against Pakistani citizens, 70k+ dead, just because some terrorists managed to slipped into Pakistan (who btw were nabbed by Pakistani authorities and handed over to your kind), then you should have absolutely brutalised, terrorised the GCC nations like Saudi Arabia and UAE, whos nationals actually rammed the jets into your twin towers. Why this logic doesn't apply to these nations?

And my original question remain unanswered,

"I dont recall Pakistan sponsoring terrorism campaign on American soil killing American citizens in thousands. When did this happen? Unless you been living in a parallel world?"

Either put up or shut up. All you are doing is justifying your country state sponsored terrorism.


On topic, the retired General also claims Afghanistan is "full of minerals" and that USA should "join CPEC". These by themselves show just how delusional this line of thinking is, let alone rely on to be credible, and even further, to use it as some rational basis for Pakistan's policies.

I agree on this, its impractical suggestion since Americans have Pakistani blood on their hands. 70000+ citizens dead in terror campaign sponsored by American and its lackies like India is no joke. Nature will take its due course. America has already been dismantled as sole super power. only way is now downwards.
USA is not involved in Cuban politics since Fidel Castro took over. If they are problems in Cuba they are Cuban made
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Either put up or shut up. All you are doing is justifying your country state sponsored terrorism.
I am simply looking at all aspects of the issue, while you are intentionally ignoring your country's side to the exclusion of proven facts. The ISI captured KSM in the basement of a particular home in Pindi, and it might jog your memory as to whose house it was.
agree on this, its impractical suggestion
Delusional thinking on part of the retired General.
 

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I am simply looking at all aspects of the issue, while you are intentionally ignoring your country's side to the exclusion of proven facts. The ISI captured KSM in the basement of a particular home in Pindi, and it might jog your memory as to whose house it was.

I ask you AGAIN, i repeat since its not going through your thick head, that all of the hijackers were Arabs, Saudis in overwhelming majority, What your kind has done to terrorise Saudi Arabian nation? Since for your kind, some people and their nationality is the proof of their state sponsored terrorism. Do you have any evidence that Pakistani state was sponsoring all these Arabs, and if these people were tool of Pakistani establishment, then how come Pakistani ISI handed them over to yanks? for what purpose, so yanks can interrogate them further and get some evidence against Pakistan?? Are you even talking sense at this point?? Germany links are also established into the planning phase of 9/11 attack, I havent seen your kind terrorising German nation!!??

We are living in a very strange world where people from terrorist nations will use flimsy justifications to terrorise other nations and then insist upon it, you are a fine specimen.


Delusional thinking on part of the retired General.
That is his idea and yes its impractical, but when he said US/Indo nexus, that is coming from his own personal experience, while fighting the so called WOT. You missed the part where he clearly said that Indian weapons were recovered from terrorists.
 

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, that all of the hijackers were Arabs, Saudis in overwhelming majority,
And the main planner and financier was a Pakistani, aided by a certain party in Pakistan. And we haven't even reached other attacks with similar assoiations, like the 1993 WTC bombing, and the Mumbai attacks that killed six US citizens.

Let us just agree to drop it here.

And one retired General may think there is an Indo-US nexus, but his personal views are just that: his own personal views.
 

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And the main planner and financier was a Pakistani, aided by a certain party in Pakistan. And we haven't even reached other attacks with similar assoiations, like the 1993 WTC bombing, and the Mumbai attacks that killed six US citizens.
OBL is Pakistani? Ever heard of Bin Laden group?

All your are rants that Pakistan, as a state was the sponsor of 9/11 attacks. I ask you, bring forth the proof?? Why you acting like a buffoon when I mentioned several times that most of these shady characters were actually caught by ISI. Why would ISI hand over Pakistan own assets to a nation, it perpetrated the terror act against (by your own narrative)? Does it even make any sense what so ever?

Your kind on the other hand is directly responsible for the killings of 70k+ Pakistani citizens. You never had any justification for your animalist behaviour but for two reason, 1) You belong to a terrorist nation 2) You were hell bend to dismantle state of Pakistan long before 9/11 since it never fit in your version of world order.


his own personal views.
US/Indo nexus is not his views or opinion, it is a fact, and he himself is the witness of it.
 

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OBL is Pakistani?
For the last time, KSM was, and is, a Pakistani. He was the main planner. OBL was the instigator.
US/Indo nexus is not his views or opinion, it is a fact, and he himself is the witness of it.
A fact? Please prove it with evidence other than conjecture and flights of conspiratorial fancy.
Why would ISI hand over Pakistan own assets to a nation, it perpetrated the terror act against (by your own narrative)? Does it even make any sense what so ever?
May be trying to avoid living in the Stone Age had something to with it? Just may be?



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On topic, something the retired General said was interesting: Is CPEC a viable backup to the Malacca Straits for China?
 

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For the last time, KSM was, and is, a Pakistani. He was the main planner. OBL was the instigator.
Lets assume KSM was not born in Kuwait, do you have any proof that Pakistani state was sponsoring him and his terror act? If just him being a Pakistani is the justification of your kind running terror campaign against Pakistani citizens killing 70k+, why the same lunatic logic is not applied to Saudi Arabi and UAE whoes citizens in "overwhelming" majority were involved and were the actual preparators of terror act.

A fact? Please prove it with evidence other than conjecture and flights of conspiratorial fancy.
Which part of Indian weapons recovered from terrorists the general was fighting you didn't not understand? Indian presence in Afghanistan is totally dependant on American patronage.
 

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Not at all. False assumption. And there are many more countries acting inside Afghanistan, and not just India, and all without US "patronage".

Non sense, all the lackies including India started to pack their bags as soon as they knew that big daddy has been defeated. Indian presence is unsustainable without American support. Your denial is beyond being silly.

Also, either put up or shut up on this once and for all:

Lets assume KSM was not born in Kuwait, do you have any proof that Pakistani state was sponsoring him and his terror act? If just him being a Pakistani is the justification of your kind running terror campaign against Pakistani citizens killing 70k+, why the same lunatic logic is not applied to Saudi Arabi and UAE whoes citizens in "overwhelming" majority were involved and were the actual preparators of terror act.
 

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keep deluding yourself
Non sense, all the lackies including India started to pack their bags as soon as they knew that big daddy has been defeated. Indian presence is unsustainable without American support. Your denial is beyond being silly.

Also, either put up or shut up on this once and for all:

Lets assume KSM was not born in Kuwait, do you have any proof that Pakistani state was sponsoring him and his terror act? If just him being a Pakistani is the justification of your kind running terror campaign against Pakistani citizens killing 70k+, why the same lunatic logic is not applied to Saudi Arabi and UAE whoes citizens in "overwhelming" majority were involved and were the actual preparators of terror act.
the list of terrorists caught in Pakistan is quite long. the most notable thing is that most of them are not Pakistani
 

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keep deluding yourself
You obviously failed to catch the humour.

the list of terrorists caught in Pakistan is quite long. the most notable thing is that most of them are not Pakistani
Caught by the efforts of Pakistan own state institutions, these terrorists who managed to slip into Pakistani territory from porous Pak Afghan border.

This is yesterday. Do you see the crowd? This is one of regulated border post. Imagine what was like when there was no border fence.

 

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Non sense, all the lackies including India started to pack their bags as soon as they knew that big daddy has been defeated. Indian presence is unsustainable without American support. Your denial is beyond being silly.
I can assure you that India will continue to make every effort to maintain a footprint inside Afghanistan, USA or no USA.

ON topic, has work on Dasu Dam restarted and is there a new date for this postponed CPEC meeting?
 

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I can assure you that India will continue to make every effort to maintain a footprint inside Afghanistan, USA or no USA.

ON topic, has work on Dasu Dam restarted and is there a new date for this postponed CPEC meeting?

We have no issue if India is again reduced to the rathole called Panjsher valley, like they were during the Taliban government of 90s. Ofcourse all changed when daddy American allowed Indians unrestricted use of Afghan soil to spread terrorism in Pakistan.

The last I heard ISI chief and FM were in China and they will be heading to yanki land with some dossier. Hopefully better sense will prevail and redlines are respected, otherwise......

You still haven't come up with evidence of Pakistan involvement in 9/11 attacks, even after a week pondering over it!!
 

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