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I am not the one with the laws nor I have problems with the freedom of speech and expression. In real worlds, the power of freedom of speech and expression whether in western worlds or any worlds are exaggerated. And I am not surprised why main establishment is trying to take some control on the narrative lest it becomes full-scale civil war. However, people are free to disagree.

That being said, everywhere as freedom of speech and expression takes backseat when it comes to Armed forces, blasphemy, Monarchy, hate crimes,...etc, and that is not going to change anytime soon. I am just being realistic while people may disagree.


US does allow protest against everyone, people are quick to point finger at military and government, in peaceful manner. Iraq war a prime example. People hated the govt and were protesting all the time, without violence..

Lastly, if there is anyone corrupt in US, people do not spare them, and media even though controlled takes them to the task... Its a tranparent, open, free, with justice far far far better than anyohter place on earth. However, War crimes are ignored, that i agree, thats where the limits are.
 

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no one is criticizing army, folks are criticizing corrupt jarnails.. pakistanis love army and loathe establishment




Establishment of US are 20 strong families that hold 54% of global money.

then power houses are congress, executive (president), pentagon and Secret agenciez
who are the 20 strong families ?
 

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US does allow protest against everyone, people are quick to point finger at military and government, in peaceful manner. Iraq war a prime example. People hated the govt and were protesting all the time, without violence..

Lastly, if there is anyone corrupt in US, people do not spare them, and media even though controlled takes them to the task... Its a tranparent, open, free, with justice far far far better than anyohter place on earth. However, War crimes are ignored, that i agree, thats where the limits are.
Civilian governments are not same as armed forces. Civilian governments are criticized which has no bearing on Armed forces.
 

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No offence but Pakistan army is doing this which is the law all over the worlds including first-world nation.

It is law that you cannot criticize the armies. Freedom of speech/expression has its limit and there is no such thing as unlimited concerning the matter of freedom of speech and expression.

There is a difference between those other armies and our beloved, self proclaimed self praised army. Pakistani public had a romance with this bully army for far too long and now that the reality of this great army is opening eyes of Pakistani public and now questioning their claims of bravery and victories; victories that has nothing to show for. These dumb 5 star generals who live in a bubble where no one else is allowed to enter, read stories of their bravery and intellect to each other could not even understand the idea that you don't appoint thieves as a bank's security guard....Or they really do not give $hit about the country but their own selves...how can you trust them to protect you against you enemies. I think General Bajwa got his pants wet when Imran ordered to attack India and he made up his mind to remove him otherwise he may have to fight.
 

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There is a difference between those other armies and our beloved, self proclaimed self praised army. Pakistani public had a romance with this bully army for far too long and now that the reality of this great army is opening eyes of Pakistani public and now questioning their claims of bravery and victories; victories that has nothing to show for. These dumb 5 star generals who live in a bubble where no one else is allowed to enter, read stories of their bravery and intellect to each other could not even understand the idea that you don't appoint thieves as a bank's security guard....Or they really do not give $hit about the country but their own selves...how can you trust them to protect you against you enemies. I think General Bajwa got his pants wet when Imran ordered to attack India and he made up his mind to remove him otherwise he may have to fight.
Your response is emotional outburst which is understandable as not long ago was darling star to imranistan while scorn enemy to PMLN.

It is politics that has its own unpredictability which has no bearing on the capability of Armed forces regardless of the character of General.
 

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Your response is emotional outburst which is understandable as not long ago was darling star to imranistan while scorn enemy to PMLN.

It is politics that has its own unpredictability which has no bearing on the capability of Armed forces regardless of the character of General.
Character of Generals matter. You can’t have a well equipped army with a traitor in charge. That person will not be able to make the correct decision and will cause lose of life. Soldiers will lose moral when they see their fellow soldiers die and order from top is to stay quiet.

Leadership matters and it has been proven by how soldiers performed during wars.

 

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Character of Generals matter. You can’t have a well equipped army with a traitor in charge. That person will not be able to make the correct decision and will cause lose of life. Soldiers will lose moral when they see their fellow soldiers die and order from top is to stay quiet.

Leadership matters and it has been proven by how soldiers performed during wars.


The title of traitor depends on the perspective. As mentioned earlier, General Bajwa was hero to Imranistan not long ago - is now traitor because Imran Khan is dethroned. That is not how it works. Hence the term emotional outburst.

Soldiers are loyal to the Generals and the nation that has no bearing on the ramification of the political system.
 

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When it has come to the point that Pakistanis who once worshipped military are arrested for smear against them then know army has lost respect of the people without enemy firing a single shot.

The price Pakistan and people will pay for the crimes of traitor bajwa will be unbearable.
 

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The title of traitor depends on the perspective. As mentioned earlier, General Bajwa was hero to Imranistan not long ago - is now traitor because Imran Khan is dethroned. That is not how it works. Hence the term emotional outburst.
It’s not because Khan is dethroned. Bajwa allowed the most corrupt to come in power and destroy Pakistans economy. Not sure which world you live in but in a civilized society one doesn’t allow the people who robed you to guard your house again.



Soldiers are loyal to the Generals and the nation that has no bearing on the ramification of the political system.

Excuse me? Their oath tells them to be loyal to the country and not obey unconstitutional orders.
 

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